Working Conditions in Oz
Jun 16th 2003, 3:55 am
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Re: Working Conditions in Oz
Originally posted by Megalania
Your tripes are obviously too full of onions and, personally, I would not trust them as garters.
Your tripes are obviously too full of onions and, personally, I would not trust them as garters.
Jun 16th 2003, 4:02 am
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Re: Working Conditions in Oz
Originally posted by Grub
Much as I hate to put a negative on the siteI must admit that my sister (office job), husband (carpenter) and other friends and rellies seem to work very long hours. My husband starts at 7am and finishes when the job is done which is often past 5pm. I cant comment on the backbiting but what i would say is look around when you get here. Dont settle for a job and stik at it- keep looking. I think that self emp is the goer if you want control over your lives. Mind you- at least the free time you do get is spent doing great free things in the great outdoors, rather than spending long misreable hours stuck inside watching dross on the TV as it's perpetually raining.
Speaking of weather- it's a bloody lovely winter- glorious sunny days and chilly nights (dont throw away those fan heaters and warm coats!!)
Much as I hate to put a negative on the siteI must admit that my sister (office job), husband (carpenter) and other friends and rellies seem to work very long hours. My husband starts at 7am and finishes when the job is done which is often past 5pm. I cant comment on the backbiting but what i would say is look around when you get here. Dont settle for a job and stik at it- keep looking. I think that self emp is the goer if you want control over your lives. Mind you- at least the free time you do get is spent doing great free things in the great outdoors, rather than spending long misreable hours stuck inside watching dross on the TV as it's perpetually raining.
Speaking of weather- it's a bloody lovely winter- glorious sunny days and chilly nights (dont throw away those fan heaters and warm coats!!)
Jun 16th 2003, 4:04 am
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Re: Working Conditions in Oz
Originally posted by Wilf
You have been in Oz just months and now one negative already. That is how it starts. You must now be careful and start wearing blinkers, otherwise in 2 years you will have more negatives than positives.
You have been in Oz just months and now one negative already. That is how it starts. You must now be careful and start wearing blinkers, otherwise in 2 years you will have more negatives than positives.
Jun 16th 2003, 4:37 am
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Sure some people are in stressfull overworked jobs but not everyone. I also work for the Gov in IT and about half the people are contractors the other half full time employees. None of us are overworked. Most of us if not all spend half their time on the internet (some of them took to spending tea breaks playing table tennis for an hour or so twice a day, but that got noticed because their desks were empty!!!!)
The full time workers have to 37.5 hours per week as that is all they are paid for, they also get 4 weeks paid holiday and paid sick leave (one guy is back after taking off more than 12 months sick leave). Gov employees have got virtually a job for life as they virtually never get rid of perm employees. Quite often they will work 40-45 hours per week to build up time and then take a whole week off.
The contractors (me included) work approx 42 hours per week as we are only paid when at work, so the more we work the more we are paid. We are also on 3 month contracts that are generally renewed every 3 months.
This is the first time I've every worked for a gov and it's def an eye opener about how the other half live. So it's not all doom and gloom down here.
The full time workers have to 37.5 hours per week as that is all they are paid for, they also get 4 weeks paid holiday and paid sick leave (one guy is back after taking off more than 12 months sick leave). Gov employees have got virtually a job for life as they virtually never get rid of perm employees. Quite often they will work 40-45 hours per week to build up time and then take a whole week off.
The contractors (me included) work approx 42 hours per week as we are only paid when at work, so the more we work the more we are paid. We are also on 3 month contracts that are generally renewed every 3 months.
This is the first time I've every worked for a gov and it's def an eye opener about how the other half live. So it's not all doom and gloom down here.
Jun 16th 2003, 4:41 am
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Originally posted by Kiwipaul
Sure some people are in stressfull overworked jobs but not everyone. I also work for the Gov in IT and about half the people are contractors the other half full time employees. None of us are overworked. Most of us if not all spend half their time on the internet (some of them took to spending tea breaks playing table tennis for an hour or so twice a day, but that got noticed because their desks were empty!!!!)
The full time workers have to 37.5 hours per week as that is all they are paid for, they also get 4 weeks paid holiday and paid sick leave (one guy is back after taking off more than 12 months sick leave). Gov employees have got virtually a job for life as they virtually never get rid of perm employees. Quite often they will work 40-45 hours per week to build up time and then take a whole week off.
The contractors (me included) work approx 42 hours per week as we are only paid when at work, so the more we work the more we are paid. We are also on 3 month contracts that are generally renewed every 3 months.
This is the first time I've every worked for a gov and it's def an eye opener about how the other half live. So it's not all doom and gloom down here.
Sure some people are in stressfull overworked jobs but not everyone. I also work for the Gov in IT and about half the people are contractors the other half full time employees. None of us are overworked. Most of us if not all spend half their time on the internet (some of them took to spending tea breaks playing table tennis for an hour or so twice a day, but that got noticed because their desks were empty!!!!)
The full time workers have to 37.5 hours per week as that is all they are paid for, they also get 4 weeks paid holiday and paid sick leave (one guy is back after taking off more than 12 months sick leave). Gov employees have got virtually a job for life as they virtually never get rid of perm employees. Quite often they will work 40-45 hours per week to build up time and then take a whole week off.
The contractors (me included) work approx 42 hours per week as we are only paid when at work, so the more we work the more we are paid. We are also on 3 month contracts that are generally renewed every 3 months.
This is the first time I've every worked for a gov and it's def an eye opener about how the other half live. So it's not all doom and gloom down here.
Again you point out what most of us know the Public Servents live off the fat of the land , while we starve to pay for it.
Russia with a Western face?
Ps what team did you support on Saturday are you a turn coat?
Jun 16th 2003, 4:46 am
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Originally posted by Kiwipaul
Sure some people are in stressfull overworked jobs but not everyone. I also work for the Gov in IT and about half the people are contractors the other half full time employees. None of us are overworked. Most of us if not all spend half their time on the internet (some of them took to spending tea breaks playing table tennis for an hour or so twice a day, but that got noticed because their desks were empty!!!!)
The full time workers have to 37.5 hours per week as that is all they are paid for, they also get 4 weeks paid holiday and paid sick leave (one guy is back after taking off more than 12 months sick leave). Gov employees have got virtually a job for life as they virtually never get rid of perm employees. Quite often they will work 40-45 hours per week to build up time and then take a whole week off.
The contractors (me included) work approx 42 hours per week as we are only paid when at work, so the more we work the more we are paid. We are also on 3 month contracts that are generally renewed every 3 months.
This is the first time I've every worked for a gov and it's def an eye opener about how the other half live. So it's not all doom and gloom down here.
Sure some people are in stressfull overworked jobs but not everyone. I also work for the Gov in IT and about half the people are contractors the other half full time employees. None of us are overworked. Most of us if not all spend half their time on the internet (some of them took to spending tea breaks playing table tennis for an hour or so twice a day, but that got noticed because their desks were empty!!!!)
The full time workers have to 37.5 hours per week as that is all they are paid for, they also get 4 weeks paid holiday and paid sick leave (one guy is back after taking off more than 12 months sick leave). Gov employees have got virtually a job for life as they virtually never get rid of perm employees. Quite often they will work 40-45 hours per week to build up time and then take a whole week off.
The contractors (me included) work approx 42 hours per week as we are only paid when at work, so the more we work the more we are paid. We are also on 3 month contracts that are generally renewed every 3 months.
This is the first time I've every worked for a gov and it's def an eye opener about how the other half live. So it's not all doom and gloom down here.
If you say that you will get a permanent job, then you will be competing with millions of others for a few permanent jobs or beaten into unemployment by some young one prepared to take temp contracts (like you are now). Enjoy it now Paul and save, do not spend - you will need the money later.
Jun 16th 2003, 4:49 am
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Again you point out what most of us know the Public Servents live off the fat of the land , while we starve to pay for it.
Russia with a Western face?
Ps what team did you support on Saturday are you a turn coat?
Again you point out what most of us know the Public Servents live off the fat of the land , while we starve to pay for it.
Russia with a Western face?
Ps what team did you support on Saturday are you a turn coat?
No mind what team what sport are you talking about. My intrest in sport is non existent on a good day
Jun 16th 2003, 4:53 am
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Originally posted by Kiwipaul
And what are you living off the sweat of your fellow workers, because the amount of time you spend on here you cannot generate much work either.
No mind what team what sport are you talking about. My intrest in sport is non existent on a good day
And what are you living off the sweat of your fellow workers, because the amount of time you spend on here you cannot generate much work either.
No mind what team what sport are you talking about. My intrest in sport is non existent on a good day
You know little but eat tax dollars that I create to feed your wide open mouth.
Fine I expect nerds to be none sporting , but to not follow Rugby in NZ is to be a none person , time for change of name BritPaul?
Jun 16th 2003, 5:07 am
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hi sunlover,
I think the working conditions in oz stink!! the attitude by the boss to the workers is so bad it is unbelievable. my hubby has just been told ' don't get upset when all the others get payrises over the years and you don't, because really you have already had the extra money - you and your family have cost this company 1,000's of $, if you feel you need to earn more money - I will supply you with plenty of overtime'
we got perm residence through ENS and his boss paid an agent and paid the visa fee and our flights. but now we have the prospect of no pay rises for years to come!
vicki
I think the working conditions in oz stink!! the attitude by the boss to the workers is so bad it is unbelievable. my hubby has just been told ' don't get upset when all the others get payrises over the years and you don't, because really you have already had the extra money - you and your family have cost this company 1,000's of $, if you feel you need to earn more money - I will supply you with plenty of overtime'
we got perm residence through ENS and his boss paid an agent and paid the visa fee and our flights. but now we have the prospect of no pay rises for years to come!
vicki
Jun 16th 2003, 5:14 am
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Originally posted by stone6
hi sunlover,
I think the working conditions in oz stink!! the attitude by the boss to the workers is so bad it is unbelievable. my hubby has just been told ' don't get upset when all the others get payrises over the years and you don't, because really you have already had the extra money - you and your family have cost this company 1,000's of $, if you feel you need to earn more money - I will supply you with plenty of overtime'
we got perm residence through ENS and his boss paid an agent and paid the visa fee and our flights. but now we have the prospect of no pay rises for years to come!
vicki
hi sunlover,
I think the working conditions in oz stink!! the attitude by the boss to the workers is so bad it is unbelievable. my hubby has just been told ' don't get upset when all the others get payrises over the years and you don't, because really you have already had the extra money - you and your family have cost this company 1,000's of $, if you feel you need to earn more money - I will supply you with plenty of overtime'
we got perm residence through ENS and his boss paid an agent and paid the visa fee and our flights. but now we have the prospect of no pay rises for years to come!
vicki
" Working conditions in Oz stink!!"
Jun 16th 2003, 5:18 am
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Originally posted by stone6
hi sunlover,
I think the working conditions in oz stink!! the attitude by the boss to the workers is so bad it is unbelievable. my hubby has just been told ' don't get upset when all the others get payrises over the years and you don't, because really you have already had the extra money - you and your family have cost this company 1,000's of $, if you feel you need to earn more money - I will supply you with plenty of overtime'
we got perm residence through ENS and his boss paid an agent and paid the visa fee and our flights. but now we have the prospect of no pay rises for years to come!
vicki
hi sunlover,
I think the working conditions in oz stink!! the attitude by the boss to the workers is so bad it is unbelievable. my hubby has just been told ' don't get upset when all the others get payrises over the years and you don't, because really you have already had the extra money - you and your family have cost this company 1,000's of $, if you feel you need to earn more money - I will supply you with plenty of overtime'
we got perm residence through ENS and his boss paid an agent and paid the visa fee and our flights. but now we have the prospect of no pay rises for years to come!
vicki
So for the past 2 years I have not had a wage rise, with CPI runing at 3-4%, my wages have eroded. This is a deliberate ploy by management and with thousands on the payroll they save a fortune. Bastards...
Jun 16th 2003, 5:43 am
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Originally posted by stone6
we got perm residence through ENS and his boss paid an agent and paid the visa fee and our flights. but now we have the prospect of no pay rises for years to come!
vicki
we got perm residence through ENS and his boss paid an agent and paid the visa fee and our flights. but now we have the prospect of no pay rises for years to come!
vicki
I could be wrong here as I'm not sure of the details
Jun 16th 2003, 5:47 am
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Originally posted by Kiwipaul
Surely if you've got PR you can tell the boss what he can do with his job. PR gives you right to reside in Australia with out tying you to a job. With a working Visa you might be tied to the job, but surely not with PR.
I could be wrong here as I'm not sure of the details
Surely if you've got PR you can tell the boss what he can do with his job. PR gives you right to reside in Australia with out tying you to a job. With a working Visa you might be tied to the job, but surely not with PR.
I could be wrong here as I'm not sure of the details
Why not just chuck in your job and take one of the other hundreds you will be offered!
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Jun 16th 2003, 6:32 am
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Originally posted by stone6
ever tried getting a job in OZ?
ever tried getting a job in OZ?