Why are cars so expensive down under!
Feb 14th 2005, 9:31 am
#46
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
Originally Posted by Superior
Those figures are bulshit! I checked and they are:
184 kW (250 bhp) at 5300 r/min.
http://www.saab.com/main/GB/en/model/95/techspecs.shtml
HSV R8 - A 6.2 liter V8, 297Kw straight off the shelf.
Suck on that, loser!
In your little world perhaps they are world class. I used to live in the country where they make those cars and let me tell you, they are NOT world class as far as I'm concerned. Neither is BMW's, Audis, (yes I have owned one of each a long time ago).
Thats because apart from possibly scandinavia, europe don't have a muscle car culture and petrol is simply too expensive. But it is alive and well in Australia and the US. The Monaro is sold in the US as a Pontiac GTO and THAT is muscle car BIG TIME! Obviously, the yanks thought it was good enough to be sold as one of their classic cars.
Being a small island, in the UK we like importing cars. Personal imports from mainland Europe, Japan & Dubai have increased dramatically in recent years, but do we see any Australian cars on the road? None.
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Duh!
Like I have only explained about 4 or 5 times before, unlike the US or Australia, your boring country doesn't have a muscle car culture.
Grasp that!
184 kW (250 bhp) at 5300 r/min.
http://www.saab.com/main/GB/en/model/95/techspecs.shtml
HSV R8 - A 6.2 liter V8, 297Kw straight off the shelf.
Suck on that, loser!
In your little world perhaps they are world class. I used to live in the country where they make those cars and let me tell you, they are NOT world class as far as I'm concerned. Neither is BMW's, Audis, (yes I have owned one of each a long time ago).
Thats because apart from possibly scandinavia, europe don't have a muscle car culture and petrol is simply too expensive. But it is alive and well in Australia and the US. The Monaro is sold in the US as a Pontiac GTO and THAT is muscle car BIG TIME! Obviously, the yanks thought it was good enough to be sold as one of their classic cars.
Being a small island, in the UK we like importing cars. Personal imports from mainland Europe, Japan & Dubai have increased dramatically in recent years, but do we see any Australian cars on the road? None.
QUOTE]
Duh!
Like I have only explained about 4 or 5 times before, unlike the US or Australia, your boring country doesn't have a muscle car culture.
Grasp that!
Feb 14th 2005, 9:40 am
#47
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
Isn't it the power to weight ratio that matters? Holdens and Fords are poorly built shite.
Feb 14th 2005, 9:52 am
#48
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
Originally Posted by Superior
Those figures are bulshit! I checked and they are:
184 kW (250 bhp) at 5300 r/min.
http://www.saab.com/main/GB/en/model/95/techspecs.shtml
HSV R8 - A 6.2 liter V8, 297Kw straight off the shelf.
Suck on that, loser!
In your little world perhaps they are world class. I used to live in the country where they make those cars and let me tell you, they are NOT world class as far as I'm concerned. Neither is BMW's, Audis, (yes I have owned one of each a long time ago).
Thats because apart from possibly scandinavia, europe don't have a muscle car culture and petrol is simply too expensive. But it is alive and well in Australia and the US. The Monaro is sold in the US as a Pontiac GTO and THAT is muscle car BIG TIME! Obviously, the yanks thought it was good enough to be sold as one of their classic cars.
Being a small island, in the UK we like importing cars. Personal imports from mainland Europe, Japan & Dubai have increased dramatically in recent years, but do we see any Australian cars on the road? None.
QUOTE]
Duh!
Like I have only explained about 4 or 5 times before, unlike the US or Australia, your boring country doesn't have a muscle car culture.
Grasp that!
184 kW (250 bhp) at 5300 r/min.
http://www.saab.com/main/GB/en/model/95/techspecs.shtml
HSV R8 - A 6.2 liter V8, 297Kw straight off the shelf.
Suck on that, loser!
In your little world perhaps they are world class. I used to live in the country where they make those cars and let me tell you, they are NOT world class as far as I'm concerned. Neither is BMW's, Audis, (yes I have owned one of each a long time ago).
Thats because apart from possibly scandinavia, europe don't have a muscle car culture and petrol is simply too expensive. But it is alive and well in Australia and the US. The Monaro is sold in the US as a Pontiac GTO and THAT is muscle car BIG TIME! Obviously, the yanks thought it was good enough to be sold as one of their classic cars.
Being a small island, in the UK we like importing cars. Personal imports from mainland Europe, Japan & Dubai have increased dramatically in recent years, but do we see any Australian cars on the road? None.
QUOTE]
Duh!
Like I have only explained about 4 or 5 times before, unlike the US or Australia, your boring country doesn't have a muscle car culture.
Grasp that!
Aussie cars are Sh*te with a capital S.
Feb 14th 2005, 9:59 am
#49
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
Originally Posted by Superior
Suck on that, loser!
Feb 14th 2005, 10:04 am
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
GM are already considering that now that they can flog more imported stuff under the FTA. There are some US made beamers that will also become cheaper here.
Toyota is the overall bestseller here.
Maintaining a car industry now requires large amounts of government subsidies. Holden is just a method of keeping unemployment down in Adelaide.
Toyota is the overall bestseller here.
Maintaining a car industry now requires large amounts of government subsidies. Holden is just a method of keeping unemployment down in Adelaide.
Feb 14th 2005, 10:09 am
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
Originally Posted by 4lex
Your well reasoned and articulate response has won me over. I can see now that Australian cars are 'awesome' and that all other manufacturers should cease production immediately. I'll get right on with spreading the word.
The Monaro is not a bad car, for what you pay you get a lot of car. Apart from that Aussie cars are sh*t. Old technology, boring & overpriced. I won't be buying one.
Feb 14th 2005, 10:11 am
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
Originally Posted by bondipom
GM are already considering that now that they can flog more imported stuff under the FTA. There are some US made beamers that will also become cheaper here.
Toyota is the overall bestseller here.
Maintaining a car industry now requires large amounts of government subsidies. Holden is just a method of keeping unemployment down in Adelaide.
Toyota is the overall bestseller here.
Maintaining a car industry now requires large amounts of government subsidies. Holden is just a method of keeping unemployment down in Adelaide.
Feb 14th 2005, 10:17 am
#53
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
you didn't answer the question.
what is the purpose of a car if it isn't for transport?
and for the record, obviously some cars are a better drive. i love the mazda3 and think it drives great. but driving around the burbs, there was no benefit to driving the 2.0litre neo against the 2.3litre SP23. you don't *need* a 'muscle' car, it's just an excuse to pose.
and some of the spoilers you see on cars here in oz are just so...... ugly! (i wanted to say the w-word, but i know my work monitor our web usage!).
what is the purpose of a car if it isn't for transport?
and for the record, obviously some cars are a better drive. i love the mazda3 and think it drives great. but driving around the burbs, there was no benefit to driving the 2.0litre neo against the 2.3litre SP23. you don't *need* a 'muscle' car, it's just an excuse to pose.
and some of the spoilers you see on cars here in oz are just so...... ugly! (i wanted to say the w-word, but i know my work monitor our web usage!).
Originally Posted by Superior
You said "the commodore and falcon will, sadly, always sell well amongst the bogan population of oz due to the whole ford/holden rivalry - which is a sad thing anyway. performance cars on suburban roads are a waste of time. the purpose of a car is to get you from 'a' to 'b'"
I want to enjoy my driving and I DO enjoy driving a powerful performance car, whereas you don't obviously, you are content with a rolling euro type mobile ashtray.
I want to enjoy my driving and I DO enjoy driving a powerful performance car, whereas you don't obviously, you are content with a rolling euro type mobile ashtray.
Feb 14th 2005, 10:22 am
#54
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
Originally Posted by brisnick
you didn't answer the question.
what is the purpose of a car if it isn't for transport?
and for the record, obviously some cars are a better drive. i love the mazda3 and think it drives great. but driving around the burbs, there was no benefit to driving the 2.0litre neo against the 2.3litre SP23. you don't *need* a 'muscle' car, it's just an excuse to pose.
and some of the spoilers you see on cars here in oz are just so...... ugly! (i wanted to say the w-word, but i know my work monitor our web usage!).
what is the purpose of a car if it isn't for transport?
and for the record, obviously some cars are a better drive. i love the mazda3 and think it drives great. but driving around the burbs, there was no benefit to driving the 2.0litre neo against the 2.3litre SP23. you don't *need* a 'muscle' car, it's just an excuse to pose.
and some of the spoilers you see on cars here in oz are just so...... ugly! (i wanted to say the w-word, but i know my work monitor our web usage!).
So no one will be importing Reliant Realto's then
(that will set the cat amonhgst the pigeons
)Bye
Mark
Feb 14th 2005, 10:23 am
#55
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
i seem to remember that the they were having problems with selling the pontiac gto to the yanks. they obviously DIDN'T think it was good enough.
and thankfully, europe doesn't have a muscle car culture. it's probably one of the worst aspects of australia.
and thankfully, europe doesn't have a muscle car culture. it's probably one of the worst aspects of australia.
Originally Posted by Superior
The Monaro is sold in the US as a Pontiac GTO and THAT is muscle car BIG TIME! Obviously, the yanks thought it was good enough to be sold as one of their classic cars.
Like I have only explained about 4 or 5 times before, unlike the US or Australia, your boring country doesn't have a muscle car culture.
Grasp that!
Like I have only explained about 4 or 5 times before, unlike the US or Australia, your boring country doesn't have a muscle car culture.
Grasp that!
Feb 14th 2005, 10:28 am
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
Originally Posted by brisnick
what is the purpose of a car if it isn't for transport?
Feb 14th 2005, 10:28 am
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
Originally Posted by Superior
Thats right. It won't be a contest. You're not even in the same league......
Try harder......
Try harder......
Feb 14th 2005, 10:40 am
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
Let's not feed the troll any more.
Feb 14th 2005, 10:43 am
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
Originally Posted by Superior
Most Aussie muscle cars will leave you dead, mate. You see, europe has never had a muscle car culture (I KNOW this because I used to live there).
HSV, FPV, Maloo.........europe has yet to produce anything that can match these. Whether you accept it or not.
Live with it.......
HSV, FPV, Maloo.........europe has yet to produce anything that can match these. Whether you accept it or not.
Live with it.......
Feb 14th 2005, 10:49 am
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Re: Why are cars so expensive down under!
i bloody hope not!
Originally Posted by Superior
One step closer to the US.......
