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sunitram Jul 1st 2009 6:20 am

Why British wants to go Australia?
 
Good Day Mates!!

I'm S.Korean who applied 175 visa this year and still I'm waiting for CO assignment. While I was waiting, and getting a lot of valuable information from you after having found this forum, I was just wondering why so many British people want to go to Australia.
As a Korean, I myself have a dream of living in well developed country and having more job opportunities. Probably the most of you have never heard about S.K, and truth is working condition here is not comparable in A. or UK. I strongly believe that the most of grown Korean think about immigration if and only if they have a chance. Fortunately I can speak just a little bit better than average of my people (for Korea is kind of isolated country with our own language and characters, we don't have a lot of chances to be exposed in English daily lives), so I could have a chance to apply.
But, Why British people? UK is, in my thought, one of the most wealthy and powerful, effective countries in the world. You have fantastic living standards and good nature, aren't you? Why do you want to go to Australia?

(If this is already answered question, please let me know how to find it and I apology in advance)

Deutschmaster Jul 1st 2009 6:26 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 
Everybody has their reasons. Mine is because it sounded fun to go and live somewhere else.

freebo Jul 1st 2009 6:36 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 
Speaking for myself (and I have lived in Australia for 5 years, 15 years ago), I found lots of similarities (language, culture, sense of humour, sport, food) and many differences (weather, space, lifestyle, quality of public services). Where Australia is different its mostly better IMHO.

In many jobs its possible to earn more money in the UK and buy more "things" but the quality of life in Australia is better, I've realised that I'd rather be happy than have more stuff :thumbup:

sunitram Jul 1st 2009 6:42 am

Re: Why British wants to go to Australia?
 

Originally Posted by Deutschmaster (Post 7714047)
Everybody has their reasons. Mine is because it sounded fun to go and live somewhere else.

Oh. I see. I didn't aware that this question could be interpreted as a personal rude question. I didn't mean to ask a rude question. I'm sorry if my question make you disturbed. I just wanted to understand another immigrants from well developed countries having different backgrounds not having economic problems.
I don't know how to eliminate this thread.

mayur_patel Jul 1st 2009 6:47 am

Re: Why British wants to go to Australia?
 

Originally Posted by sunitram (Post 7714093)
Oh. I see. I didn't aware that this question could be interpreted as a personal rude question. I didn't mean to ask a rude question. I'm sorry if my question make you disturbed. I just wanted to understand another immigrants from well developed countries having different backgrounds not having economic problems.
I don't know how to eliminate this thread.

Everyone is welcome on British Expats. Your thread is very good and has unique topic to gain good knowledge base. You shouldn't close it.. Every one are already responding thier experience that's what BE forum here about.

Don't worry for about anything. And one is rude.

Regards,

Mayur

Deutschmaster Jul 1st 2009 6:51 am

Re: Why British wants to go to Australia?
 

Originally Posted by sunitram (Post 7714093)
Oh. I see. I didn't aware that this question could be interpreted as a personal rude question. I didn't mean to ask a rude question. I'm sorry if my question make you disturbed. I just wanted to understand another immigrants from well developed countries having different backgrounds not having economic problems.
I don't know how to eliminate this thread.

No no, I didn't interpret this as a personal rude question. It's just that the British aren't coming here for the same reason. Some might come for a specific reason. Some came because they fancied something different.

eurosyl Jul 1st 2009 6:56 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by sunitram (Post 7714028)
Good Day Mates!!

I'm S.Korean who applied 175 visa this year and still I'm waiting for CO assignment. While I was waiting, and getting a lot of valuable information from you after having found this forum, I was just wondering why so many British people want to go to Australia.
As a Korean, I myself have a dream of living in well developed country and having more job opportunities. Probably the most of you have never heard about S.K, and truth is working condition here is not comparable in A. or UK. I strongly believe that the most of grown Korean think about immigration if and only if they have a chance. Fortunately I can speak just a little bit better than average of my people (for Korea is kind of isolated country with our own language and characters, we don't have a lot of chances to be exposed in English daily lives), so I could have a chance to apply.
But, Why British people? UK is, in my thought, one of the most wealthy and powerful, effective countries in the world. You have fantastic living standards and good nature, aren't you? Why do you want to go to Australia?

(If this is already answered question, please let me know how to find it and I apology in advance)

This question pops up every now and then, and everone goes for different reasons. One of the threads where it was discussed:
http://britishexpats.com/forum/showthread.php?t=602199

Cheers,
Sylvia

Deutschmaster Jul 1st 2009 7:01 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 
I had a variety of reasons. One was that I had just finished university and it seemed like a really good time to go and see the world for a bit. I had been working for several years before going to university and it seemed too easy to slip into a situation where it would be too hard to leave once getting comfortable in a situation.

It was quite by chance that I came to Australia. I went to an industry conference in the UK in 2006 and saw a talk given by a couple of Australian engineers on their company. From what they were talking about I thought 'I can do that' so asked them for the name of the person to ask for a job. Luckily a position came up shortly after.

The weather is a lot better and Australians don't moan so much. I also like the vast open spaces between the cities. :p

sunitram Jul 1st 2009 7:11 am

Re: Why British wants to go to Australia?
 

Originally Posted by Deutschmaster (Post 7714115)
No no, I didn't interpret this as a personal rude question. It's just that the British aren't coming here for the same reason. Some might come for a specific reason. Some came because they fancied something different.

Oh. It was my total misunderstanding. Thank you. I really need to learn more English before I go to Australia. :o

Before I ask British on this question I think I should add more reason why I ask this. There are several reason why the most of Korean want to go to abroad like Australia, USA or UK. Economic difficulties, children education - especially for English language - and escaping from bloody competition all through ones life. Due to limit natural resources and highly dense population like other Asian countries, my people live in extremely competitive environment from kindergarten to grave. Most high school student cannot go to bed before 12 or 1 and must go to school before 7 A.M. to be admitted by decent college. After graduation they are facing a bloody competition and have to resign before their 50th. No welfare. No beautiful gray life because they have to support their children to live the same life with them repeatedly. Maybe it's focused only on negative aspect, but it contains truth. This is the reason many Korean (or Chinese too) having a high rated position in their country willingly go to Australia even if they will get relatively low position than they had.

Anyway Thank you for your comment. :D

Amazulu Jul 1st 2009 7:42 am

Re: Why British wants to go to Australia?
 

Originally Posted by sunitram (Post 7714093)
Oh. I see. I didn't aware that this question could be interpreted as a personal rude question. I didn't mean to ask a rude question. I'm sorry if my question make you disturbed. I just wanted to understand another immigrants from well developed countries having different backgrounds not having economic problems.
I don't know how to eliminate this thread.

I think one of the main reasons for Brits to emigrate to Australia is the historic links between the two countries. The British established Australia and the bonds are still strong. Australia is still a Western nation and not an Asian one. Britain and Australia share not only a common language, but also strong cultural, economic,political and religious links - they are also still predominantly white, Anglo-saxon societies, although Asian infuences are coming in. The majority of post-war migration here was from the UK and I guess the current situation is a hangover from that.

Everyone is welcome though.

rinkerdink Jul 1st 2009 7:49 am

Re: Why British wants to go to Australia?
 

Originally Posted by sunitram (Post 7714171)
Oh. It was my total misunderstanding. Thank you. I really need to learn more English before I go to Australia. :o

Before I ask British on this question I think I should add more reason why I ask this. There are several reason why the most of Korean want to go to abroad like Australia, USA or UK. Economic difficulties, children education - especially for English language - and escaping from bloody competition all through ones life. Due to limit natural resources and highly dense population like other Asian countries, my people live in extremely competitive environment from kindergarten to grave. Most high school student cannot go to bed before 12 or 1 and must go to school before 7 A.M. to be admitted by decent college. After graduation they are facing a bloody competition and have to resign before their 50th. No welfare. No beautiful gray life because they have to support their children to live the same life with them repeatedly. Maybe it's focused only on negative aspect, but it contains truth. This is the reason many Korean (or Chinese too) having a high rated position in their country willingly go to Australia even if they will get relatively low position than they had.

Anyway Thank you for your comment. :D

An interesting insight into Asian life and a good indication to why Asians living in the UK are far more focussed on their education (generally) than most black or white kids and also why so many Asian seize opportunities a leave others in their wake.

I suppose we don't realise how lucky we are, I am going to be able to have more family time and withdraw (if only a little bit) from the rat race i'm currently in.

papilon Jul 1st 2009 8:22 am

Re: Why British wants to go to Australia?
 

Originally Posted by sunitram (Post 7714171)
Oh. It was my total misunderstanding. Thank you. I really need to learn more English before I go to Australia. :o

Before I ask British on this question I think I should add more reason why I ask this. There are several reason why the most of Korean want to go to abroad like Australia, USA or UK. Economic difficulties, children education - especially for English language - and escaping from bloody competition all through ones life. Due to limit natural resources and highly dense population like other Asian countries, my people live in extremely competitive environment from kindergarten to grave. Most high school student cannot go to bed before 12 or 1 and must go to school before 7 A.M. to be admitted by decent college. After graduation they are facing a bloody competition and have to resign before their 50th. No welfare. No beautiful gray life because they have to support their children to live the same life with them repeatedly. Maybe it's focused only on negative aspect, but it contains truth. This is the reason many Korean (or Chinese too) having a high rated position in their country willingly go to Australia even if they will get relatively low position than they had.

Anyway Thank you for your comment. :D


Unbelievably many brits leave Britian because for some deluded reason they believe Britian is virtually a developing country with no future. They believe the problems faced in Britian dont exist anywhere else and countries such as Australia are a virtual paradise compared to home. The truth is the UK is one of the wealthiest countries in the world, its had a good kick in the teeth due to the global financial crisis, but as London had become the centre of the financial world it was going get hit hard, incredibly many other european countries are suffering more than the UK but many brits are not interested in hearing about that. Many now hate there government even tho it was the same one that gave them unpresedented growth over a record period of time.
Virtual zero unemployment. Most made huge gains on the property they invested in, many even could afford to buy second homes as investment properties, even homes abroad in Spain, France and Greece. But even during good economic times many are unhappy and truly believe the grass is greener everywhere else but home.
I have lived abroad in various countries most of my adult life, the reason being
pure wunderlust, currently Australia is home, and its a great place to live but then again so is the UK, sadly many brits especialy the english have no respect for the truly wonderfull country that is the UK, and dont realise how tough the vast majority of people in the world really have it. Thats why many migrants coming to the UK do so well.

mohogony Jul 1st 2009 8:33 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 
l thought s korea was a developed first world country like Japan? Alot of Brits might come for the better climate but the weathers alot warmer in the Uk now then it is in most of OZ, its freezing cold and wet down here in Victoria while in the 30c's in the UK. More Brits come here then other nationalities becasue OZ was their colony and they speak the same language, drive on the same side of the road and have similar culture so its an easy country to adjust to.

Petals Jul 1st 2009 8:42 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 
British people have migrated to different countries for hundreds of years, US, NZ, Australia, India, South Africa many other African countries. I think possibly people from asia are now moving and emigrating also. As the world gets smaller and travel is easier I think people will move everywhere.

Hope you like Australia when you get here, its a lovely place to live and you will have lots of space here. Can drive out of Melbourne for about an hour and go to a beach no one is on it. Fantastic.

ABCDiamond Jul 1st 2009 8:47 am

Re: Why British wants to go to Australia?
 

Originally Posted by sunitram (Post 7714171)
Most high school student cannot go to bed before 12 or 1 and must go to school before 7 A.M. to be admitted by decent college.

We hosted a couple of Korean students 2 years ago, and they told us about that. They noticed a very big difference here.

I like the weather here, compared to the UK ;)

renth Jul 1st 2009 9:21 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by sunitram (Post 7714028)
But, Why British people? UK is, in my thought, one of the most wealthy and powerful, effective countries in the world. You have fantastic living standards and good nature, aren't you? Why do you want to go to Australia?

The UK used to be a great country but is in terminal decline, the sensible people are getting the hell out whenever they get the chance. Living standards are very low unless you are extremely rich and the government has let in far too many people from other countries whose values are opposed to those of the native population.

Paulie H Jul 1st 2009 9:23 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 
We moved for the weather and the outdoor life . But i think the main reason is that we wanted to bring our son up so that he had some good opportunities. I think a lot of people who have never been to the UK thinks it's all little Villages where you can leave your door open every night and there's a bobby on every corner ready to cuff a little ragamuffin around the ear when he goes scrumping ! Sadly this is no longer true. Try crime ridden rubbish strewn ****hole .Thanks for the thread and allowing me to get that off my chest ;)

ABCDiamond Jul 1st 2009 9:36 am

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Originally Posted by Paulie H (Post 7714553)
I think a lot of people who have never been to the UK thinks it's all little Villages where you can leave your door open every night and there's a bobby on every corner ready to cuff a little ragamuffin around the ear when he goes scrumping !

Has it changed then ? I remember it like that... :rofl:

I can almost feel that clip around the ear again... 'memories' :thumbup:

Pollyana Jul 1st 2009 10:19 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 
Cos they think its " better"......but some of them get here and find that life was actually more fun over there.....

Possums Jul 1st 2009 10:30 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by Paulie H (Post 7714553)
We moved for the weather and the outdoor life . But i think the main reason is that we wanted to bring our son up so that he had some good opportunities. I think a lot of people who have never been to the UK thinks it's all little Villages where you can leave your door open every night and there's a bobby on every corner ready to cuff a little ragamuffin around the ear when he goes scrumping ! Sadly this is no longer true. Try crime ridden rubbish strewn ****hole .Thanks for the thread and allowing me to get that off my chest ;)

ah yep thats exactly what it was like but you forgot the lashings of ginger beer :) mate just cos you lived in a shithole doesnt mean we all did :cool:

BadgeIsBack Jul 1st 2009 10:53 am

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 7714254)
I think one of the main reasons for Brits to emigrate to Australia is the historic links between the two countries. The British established Australia and the bonds are still strong. Australia is still a Western nation and not an Asian one. Britain and Australia share not only a common language, but also strong cultural, economic,political and religious links - they are also still predominantly white, Anglo-saxon societies, although Asian infuences are coming in. The majority of post-war migration here was from the UK and I guess the current situation is a hangover from that.

Everyone is welcome though.

The ties and similarities are closer than some admit.


Originally Posted by papilon (Post 7714362)
Many now hate there government even tho it was the same one that gave them unpresedented growth over a record period of time.

So true...

danjones1 Jul 1st 2009 11:17 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 
Lots of Brits that failed to make a success of themselves back home often look at emigrating to other English speaking countries.

If they were successful then they'd probably a) not move at all b) move to another European country, learn the language, embrace the culture...

So thats why so many Brits end up downunder.

Dorothy Jul 1st 2009 11:44 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by danjones1 (Post 7714838)
Lots of Brits that failed to make a success of themselves back home often look at emigrating to other English speaking countries.

If they were successful then they'd probably a) not move at all b) move to another European country, learn the language, embrace the culture...

So thats why so many Brits end up downunder.

That's not necessarily true...we were successful in our fields before emigrating. We simply wanted to try a different country without having to learn a new language. And Australia was relatively easy to get in.

Vash the Stampede Jul 1st 2009 11:46 am

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by danjones1 (Post 7714838)
Lots of Brits that failed to make a success of themselves back home often look at emigrating to other English speaking countries.

If they were successful then they'd probably a) not move at all b) move to another European country, learn the language, embrace the culture...

So thats why so many Brits end up downunder.

Don't be ridiculous. That's a grotesque and completely unjustified generalisation.


Originally Posted by renth (Post 7714547)
The UK used to be a great country but is in terminal decline, the sensible people are getting the hell out whenever they get the chance. Living standards are very low unless you are extremely rich

Can't agree with that. The UK is still a great country, and you don't need squillions to have a decent standard of living.


and the government has let in far too many people from other countries whose values are opposed to those of the native population.
Definitely agree with that. Even one would be too many.

paulry Jul 1st 2009 12:11 pm

Re: Why British wants to go to Australia?
 

Originally Posted by rinkerdink (Post 7714278)
An interesting insight into Asian life and a good indication to why Asians living in the UK are far more focussed on their education (generally) than most black or white kids and also why so many Asian seize opportunities a leave others in their wake.

I suppose we don't realise how lucky we are, I am going to be able to have more family time and withdraw (if only a little bit) from the rat race i'm currently in.

I see the cultural differences between Asian and Europeans all the time in regard to education though my Malaysian Chinese in-laws. The kids from young work very hard to outdo eachother and while they are great kids with excellent attitudes I feel that they are over stressed and don't enjoy their childhoods as much as they should. Under tens working on homework and projects at times approaching midnight is not uncommon. My own kids have two cultural influences so benefit from the goldilocks effect. They are very focused on their studies but are also allowed a generous amount of time to enjoy other activities.

From my own observations in the West, a child does not have to work much harder than their contemporaries to be among the top three in their class.

A happy child almost always becomes a happy adult.

moneypenny20 Jul 1st 2009 12:52 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by danjones1 (Post 7714838)
Lots of Brits that failed to make a success of themselves back home often look at emigrating to other English speaking countries.

If they were successful then they'd probably a) not move at all b) move to another European country, learn the language, embrace the culture...

So thats why so many Brits end up downunder.

Someone's been reading too much Jeremy Clarkson.:rolleyes:

We moved over because we could, because we had a fancy for a change and because the climate in the UK was doing me no good at all.

paulry Jul 1st 2009 12:57 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 7715065)
Someone's been reading too much Jeremy Clarkson.:rolleyes:

We moved over because we could, because we had a fancy for a change and because the climate in the UK was doing me no good at all.

For us it is to have more space, better weather, a brighter future (:fingerscrossed:) and to be closer to family.

sr71 Jul 1st 2009 1:05 pm

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Originally Posted by danjones1 (Post 7714838)
If they were successful then they'd probably a) not move at all b) move to another European country, learn the language, embrace the culture...

Been there, done that. Europe is a great place for holidaying in, living there is another thing altogether. They can be incredibly insular, bureaucratic, rigid in their work structures and boring people.

I'd rather ignore all that and just holiday there enjoying the good things.

livinginreality Jul 1st 2009 1:09 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by renth (Post 7714547)
The UK used to be a great country but is in terminal decline, the sensible people are getting the hell out whenever they get the chance. Living standards are very low unless you are extremely rich and the government has let in far too many people from other countries whose values are opposed to those of the native population.

Disagree with that I'm afraid!For one we're sensible and yes still in the UK,and secondly living standards are high for us and we're not extremely rich either!!!Lots of people still think the UK is great!

livinginreality Jul 1st 2009 1:15 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by Paulie H (Post 7714553)
We moved for the weather and the outdoor life . But i think the main reason is that we wanted to bring our son up so that he had some good opportunities. I think a lot of people who have never been to the UK thinks it's all little Villages where you can leave your door open every night and there's a bobby on every corner ready to cuff a little ragamuffin around the ear when he goes scrumping ! Sadly this is no longer true. Try crime ridden rubbish strewn ****hole .Thanks for the thread and allowing me to get that off my chest ;)

I take it you're talking about South Wales when you say its a crime ridden strewn **** hole?Its not like that where I live.:thumbdown:

papilon Jul 1st 2009 1:25 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by renth (Post 7714547)
The UK used to be a great country but is in terminal decline, the sensible people are getting the hell out whenever they get the chance. Living standards are very low unless you are extremely rich and the government has let in far too many people from other countries whose values are opposed to those of the native population.

What a complete load of nonsense, the vast majority of people i know in the UK have a living standard equivalant to that of most Australians i know or better. Please dont judge by the size of someones house, the UK is the size of Victoria with 60 million people in it so property will generally be smaller and more expensive, the later is also for most brits outside the south east no longer true.


As for the last comments about migrating to another country because to many migrants have moved to yours is complete hypocrisy, also try asking the
native Australians about wether european values are opposed to theirs.

Paulie H Jul 1st 2009 1:28 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by livinginreality (Post 7715117)
I take it you're talking about South Wales when you say its a crime ridden strewn **** hole?Its not like that where I live.:thumbdown:

You must live in the Outer Hebrides then ?? :blink:

paulry Jul 1st 2009 1:34 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 
I do wonder if those of us who are planning to move to Australia with certain aims and/or expectations are in for a bit of a shock. For example reduced exposure to crime, better standard of living, etc

Vash the Stampede Jul 1st 2009 1:42 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 7715150)
I do wonder if those of us who are planning to move to Australia with certain aims and/or expectations are in for a bit of a shock. For example reduced exposure to crime, better standard of living, etc

I believe so.

livinginreality Jul 1st 2009 1:57 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by Paulie H (Post 7715139)
You must live in the Outer Hebrides then ?? :blink:

I don't live anywhere near the Outer Hebrides!In future for those people who like to UK bash,can you please be more specific when you say "The UK is a shithole"?Like "Where I live in South Wales (village,suburb whatever)is a shithol",don't tarnish the whole of the UK as a shithole,most of it is gorgeous.

bubbles08 Jul 1st 2009 1:57 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 
well you all will be in for a shock! , as when i lived in WA the local police station was fire bombed then a few days later another one was bombed and the Aussies had the cheek to say we were fools to go back to the uk because of the violence!
People who are emigrating are blinkered in their views and think that this country is the worse for violence,but you really have to live somewhere:frown: to really see places for what they are.I was told by small minded Northerners ,and i am a Northerner myself, that i would be shot or mugged coming back to UK.They choose to put me living in same place as were they come from without even knowing were i lived.

livinginreality Jul 1st 2009 2:01 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by paulry (Post 7715150)
I do wonder if those of us who are planning to move to Australia with certain aims and/or expectations are in for a bit of a shock. For example reduced exposure to crime, better standard of living, etc

As in the UK,it depends an awful lot where you live!I've recently returned from Adelaide (spent years living there)and I took my OH to some really awful places,just to prove that yes there are horrible places in and around Adelaide.Having said that I also took him to alot of really nice places as well.I think I have quite a good balanced view of Oz,unlike some people who think the whole of the UK is a shithole!Keep your expectations realistic and you can't go wrong!

Vash the Stampede Jul 1st 2009 2:03 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by livinginreality (Post 7715197)
don't tarnish the whole of the UK as a shithole,most of it is gorgeous.

I agree! Birmingham, in particular, has some superb examples of 1970s concrete.

:)

micmay3_in_oz Jul 1st 2009 2:04 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 
[B][B]

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7715167)
I believe so.

I suppose it all depends on where you go from to where you end up. As in all countries there are some good and some bad areas. Life is certainly different for us over here – not all necessarily for the better but most of the changes have been good (except I can't get a blasted job). We had the opportunity to move to Aus because of OHs job – thought we’d give it a whirl rather than have a lifetime of thinking ‘what if’. Saw it as a chance for a different way of life not necessarily a better way of life but one as equally as good at least. Would we have made the move if it had been to elsewhere in the UK – depends on where the elsewhere would have been but if the package was right probably yes. I couldn’t have moved to a none English speaking country though – I have enough difficulty here with my mixed brummie / Derbyshire accent. Saying that I had enough problems with my accent in England so should be used to it!

Mx

Mx

Grayling Jul 1st 2009 2:04 pm

Re: Why British wants to go Australia?
 

Originally Posted by Vash the Stampede (Post 7715212)
I agree! Birmingham, in particular, has some superb examples of 1970s concrete.

:)

So does Brisbane...and Sydney....and......

:)


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