A 'whinger' in New Orleans explains!
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Re: A 'whinger' in New Orleans explains!
Originally Posted by OzTennis
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Originally Posted by seang
I just keep coming back to the idea - what if various nations had offered to take their nationals out(send planes, food etc) and the US asked them to back down as they would look even worse i.e. others can get their people out why cant the US
OzTennis
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I have been giving this situation a fair amount of thought over the last few days as I had a friend in the area who managed to evacuate in time to safer ground, but it got me thinking.
What exactly did these people who were trapped in New Orleans expect the Oz government to do? Did they think that there would be Australian soldiers searching the city with empty choppers standing by to take them out, what about the rest of the stranded people, just leave them there?
There were over 50 countries represented in New Orleans at the time of the disaster. It would of been chaos if there had been all these different soldiers marching through town looking for their people and leaving everyone else to fend for themselves.
Sure the Americans have been a bit slow in sorting this situation out but it is their country and their law, we must respect that.
The people who are now arriving back in their various countries of origin - and it is not just Australians - whinging about what their govt did or did not do are being totally unfair in my opinion and should just be glad to be home safe.
What exactly did these people who were trapped in New Orleans expect the Oz government to do? Did they think that there would be Australian soldiers searching the city with empty choppers standing by to take them out, what about the rest of the stranded people, just leave them there?
There were over 50 countries represented in New Orleans at the time of the disaster. It would of been chaos if there had been all these different soldiers marching through town looking for their people and leaving everyone else to fend for themselves.
Sure the Americans have been a bit slow in sorting this situation out but it is their country and their law, we must respect that.
The people who are now arriving back in their various countries of origin - and it is not just Australians - whinging about what their govt did or did not do are being totally unfair in my opinion and should just be glad to be home safe.
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Originally Posted by Miked
I have been giving this situation a fair amount of thought over the last few days as I had a friend in the area who managed to evacuate in time to safer ground, but it got me thinking.
What exactly did these people who were trapped in New Orleans expect the Oz government to do? Did they think that there would be Australian soldiers searching the city with empty choppers standing by to take them out, what about the rest of the stranded people, just leave them there?
There were over 50 countries represented in New Orleans at the time of the disaster. It would of been chaos if there had been all these different soldiers marching through town looking for their people and leaving everyone else to fend for themselves.
Sure the Americans have been a bit slow in sorting this situation out but it is their country and their law, we must respect that.
The people who are now arriving back in their various countries of origin - and it is not just Australians - whinging about what their govt did or did not do are being totally unfair in my opinion and should just be glad to be home safe.
What exactly did these people who were trapped in New Orleans expect the Oz government to do? Did they think that there would be Australian soldiers searching the city with empty choppers standing by to take them out, what about the rest of the stranded people, just leave them there?
There were over 50 countries represented in New Orleans at the time of the disaster. It would of been chaos if there had been all these different soldiers marching through town looking for their people and leaving everyone else to fend for themselves.
Sure the Americans have been a bit slow in sorting this situation out but it is their country and their law, we must respect that.
The people who are now arriving back in their various countries of origin - and it is not just Australians - whinging about what their govt did or did not do are being totally unfair in my opinion and should just be glad to be home safe.
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Re: A 'whinger' in New Orleans explains!
Originally Posted by Miked
I have been giving this situation a fair amount of thought over the last few days as I had a friend in the area who managed to evacuate in time to safer ground, but it got me thinking.
What exactly did these people who were trapped in New Orleans expect the Oz government to do? Did they think that there would be Australian soldiers searching the city with empty choppers standing by to take them out, what about the rest of the stranded people, just leave them there?
There were over 50 countries represented in New Orleans at the time of the disaster. It would of been chaos if there had been all these different soldiers marching through town looking for their people and leaving everyone else to fend for themselves.
Sure the Americans have been a bit slow in sorting this situation out but it is their country and their law, we must respect that.
The people who are now arriving back in their various countries of origin - and it is not just Australians - whinging about what their govt did or did not do are being totally unfair in my opinion and should just be glad to be home safe.
What exactly did these people who were trapped in New Orleans expect the Oz government to do? Did they think that there would be Australian soldiers searching the city with empty choppers standing by to take them out, what about the rest of the stranded people, just leave them there?
There were over 50 countries represented in New Orleans at the time of the disaster. It would of been chaos if there had been all these different soldiers marching through town looking for their people and leaving everyone else to fend for themselves.
Sure the Americans have been a bit slow in sorting this situation out but it is their country and their law, we must respect that.
The people who are now arriving back in their various countries of origin - and it is not just Australians - whinging about what their govt did or did not do are being totally unfair in my opinion and should just be glad to be home safe.
I agree Mike, I'm sure that they had enough time to get out or get to higher ground what with all the warnings, we heard about it over here in Australia so why would they have not been informed in time in New Orleans, it is a very accessible place with plenty of big places within a few hours drive if nothing else.
Did they really think that the Americans would let foreign powers into the situation just to get there people out? What planet are they from??
But we were not there so......
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Yeah but big difference between having troops/peeople on the ground and allowing planes/choppers/supplies been made ready on the ground away from N.O.
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there are many that go on holiday who enjoy escaping constant news and don't buy the local rag, watch TV etc.
Last yr we had a hurricane (first one there for over 30yrs) and the first we knew of it was a warning note/call from the hotel and the travel operator of a tropical storm, then few hrs later that it was going to be a hurricane.
If these peoples' tour operators (if they had one) informed them (ie why put them on the flight to NO in the first place?) or the places they were staying, they might have been able to do something. Even then it was probably too late as I would guess that transport out would have been fully booked. (again a tour operator should have had a duty of care to find a means to get them out, or maybe they took the cheap option of 'it will be alright')
Last yr we had a hurricane (first one there for over 30yrs) and the first we knew of it was a warning note/call from the hotel and the travel operator of a tropical storm, then few hrs later that it was going to be a hurricane.
If these peoples' tour operators (if they had one) informed them (ie why put them on the flight to NO in the first place?) or the places they were staying, they might have been able to do something. Even then it was probably too late as I would guess that transport out would have been fully booked. (again a tour operator should have had a duty of care to find a means to get them out, or maybe they took the cheap option of 'it will be alright')
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Originally Posted by walaj
there are many that go on holiday who enjoy escaping constant news and don't buy the local rag, watch TV etc.
Last yr we had a hurricane (first one there for over 30yrs) and the first we knew of it was a warning note/call from the hotel and the travel operator of a tropical storm, then few hrs later that it was going to be a hurricane.
If these peoples' tour operators (if they had one) informed them (ie why put them on the flight to NO in the first place?) or the places they were staying, they might have been able to do something. Even then it was probably too late as I would guess that transport out would have been fully booked. (again a tour operator should have had a duty of care to find a means to get them out, or maybe they took the cheap option of 'it will be alright')
Last yr we had a hurricane (first one there for over 30yrs) and the first we knew of it was a warning note/call from the hotel and the travel operator of a tropical storm, then few hrs later that it was going to be a hurricane.
If these peoples' tour operators (if they had one) informed them (ie why put them on the flight to NO in the first place?) or the places they were staying, they might have been able to do something. Even then it was probably too late as I would guess that transport out would have been fully booked. (again a tour operator should have had a duty of care to find a means to get them out, or maybe they took the cheap option of 'it will be alright')
As you know financial implications always overides duty of care in this day and age !
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Originally Posted by walaj
there are many that go on holiday who enjoy escaping constant news and don't buy the local rag, watch TV etc.
Last yr we had a hurricane (first one there for over 30yrs) and the first we knew of it was a warning note/call from the hotel and the travel operator of a tropical storm, then few hrs later that it was going to be a hurricane.
If these peoples' tour operators (if they had one) informed them (ie why put them on the flight to NO in the first place?) or the places they were staying, they might have been able to do something. Even then it was probably too late as I would guess that transport out would have been fully booked. (again a tour operator should have had a duty of care to find a means to get them out, or maybe they took the cheap option of 'it will be alright')
Last yr we had a hurricane (first one there for over 30yrs) and the first we knew of it was a warning note/call from the hotel and the travel operator of a tropical storm, then few hrs later that it was going to be a hurricane.
If these peoples' tour operators (if they had one) informed them (ie why put them on the flight to NO in the first place?) or the places they were staying, they might have been able to do something. Even then it was probably too late as I would guess that transport out would have been fully booked. (again a tour operator should have had a duty of care to find a means to get them out, or maybe they took the cheap option of 'it will be alright')
Mrs S
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Originally Posted by spalen
Most people believed that it would be downgraded, that always seems to be the general feeling whenever there is a weather warning in the states..I have been in Florida several times when severe hurricaine warnings were given, they all were downgraded at the last moment, people will take the warnings more seriously now I am sure.
Mrs S
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Re: A 'whinger' in New Orleans explains!
Originally Posted by OzTennis
The foreign countries might ask was your bin too laden to respond perhaps?
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... but very poignant also. Food for thought...
RT.
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Re: A 'whinger' in New Orleans explains!
Originally Posted by tableland
The US is not going to allow foreign soldiers en masse in their country anyway.
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Originally Posted by Hutch
Funny that - could have sworn I saw a load of para's, fresh out of Baghad, patrolling with the 82nd Airborne on CH4 news last night.
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Originally Posted by seang
Not in America you didnt.
It was a little surreal to see this on American soil but there they were.