where to live in nz
Jun 9th 2003, 5:42 pm
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Re: where to live in N.Z.
Originally posted by Linda Welch
We are seriously considering moving to N.Z. My husband has an Uncle in Milton South Islands. We have been also told that Queenstown area is beautiful.We have 3 young children and want them to have a better quality of life. We need advise on good schools, universitys, museums- the good life!! Does anyone know if catholic schools are better as they are here in London ?Our kids enjoy sports and outdoor life. Any ideas ?
We are seriously considering moving to N.Z. My husband has an Uncle in Milton South Islands. We have been also told that Queenstown area is beautiful.We have 3 young children and want them to have a better quality of life. We need advise on good schools, universitys, museums- the good life!! Does anyone know if catholic schools are better as they are here in London ?Our kids enjoy sports and outdoor life. Any ideas ?
' put on shorts and tshirt, drove to work round the lake with the mountains as their back drop, came back from work, parked outside the shop I wanted to go into!!!(impossible here) then picked up son, drove up the mountain and went snowboarding'
Don't know about anybody else, but that sounds heaven to me!!.
Would also be very interested to find out about the Catholic schools, mind you I was told that the religion was not highly represented in NZ, but don't know for sure.
Donna
Jun 9th 2003, 6:33 pm
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We are thinking of settling in NELSON, I have been there, but anyone had any long term experience of the area?
Just out of interest, the reports of street crime in NZ cities around New years, I saw on the NZ TV myself, when I was there. There was trouble in Tauranga/Mnt Manganui, the Coromandel & a fatal stabbing in Ch/ch. You should have been in Motoeka, like we were, what a riot that was!!!!..............not!
But it was NYE, hot weather, lots of alchohol, testosterone & to be honest you should see what goes on in the little "sleepy" town I live in here in Glos. That's happens nearly every week!
You can't avoid crime anywhere, people are people & there will always be an element of nutters.
I doubt if people on the USA forum even bother to ask questions about crime over there! But I spent 4 months in the US & never saw any trouble!! Including North Nashville & NYC.
Just out of interest, the reports of street crime in NZ cities around New years, I saw on the NZ TV myself, when I was there. There was trouble in Tauranga/Mnt Manganui, the Coromandel & a fatal stabbing in Ch/ch. You should have been in Motoeka, like we were, what a riot that was!!!!..............not!
But it was NYE, hot weather, lots of alchohol, testosterone & to be honest you should see what goes on in the little "sleepy" town I live in here in Glos. That's happens nearly every week!
You can't avoid crime anywhere, people are people & there will always be an element of nutters.
I doubt if people on the USA forum even bother to ask questions about crime over there! But I spent 4 months in the US & never saw any trouble!! Including North Nashville & NYC.
Jun 9th 2003, 6:35 pm
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Reading a lot of the replies in this thread and I feel as if someone has just told me there's no Santa.
My wife spent 4 years in New Zealand as a child and her parents always spoke so highly of it. Mind you, that was in the early 60s and they lived in Blenheim. Myself, I have always thought of it as some kind of ideal place as far as every-day living is concerned.
The only negative perspective I had was that it is a bit on the socialist side with not very good wages and high-priced, second-hand cars. But that's all. I'll just have to be happy with the wonderful NZ lamb in our supermarkets.
My wife spent 4 years in New Zealand as a child and her parents always spoke so highly of it. Mind you, that was in the early 60s and they lived in Blenheim. Myself, I have always thought of it as some kind of ideal place as far as every-day living is concerned.
The only negative perspective I had was that it is a bit on the socialist side with not very good wages and high-priced, second-hand cars. But that's all. I'll just have to be happy with the wonderful NZ lamb in our supermarkets.
Jun 9th 2003, 6:47 pm
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Originally posted by garrisondamn
I doubt if people on the USA forum even bother to ask questions about crime over there! But I spent 4 months in the US & never saw any trouble!! Including North Nashville & NYC.
I doubt if people on the USA forum even bother to ask questions about crime over there! But I spent 4 months in the US & never saw any trouble!! Including North Nashville & NYC.
Jun 9th 2003, 7:47 pm
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Re: where to live in N.Z.
Originally posted by Kebabo
Have friends in Queenstown and are also looking to go there ourselves. Don't know too much about it, but his quote from the other day was:
' put on shorts and tshirt, drove to work round the lake with the mountains as their back drop, came back from work, parked outside the shop I wanted to go into!!!(impossible here) then picked up son, drove up the mountain and went snowboarding'
Don't know about anybody else, but that sounds heaven to me!!.
Donna
Have friends in Queenstown and are also looking to go there ourselves. Don't know too much about it, but his quote from the other day was:
' put on shorts and tshirt, drove to work round the lake with the mountains as their back drop, came back from work, parked outside the shop I wanted to go into!!!(impossible here) then picked up son, drove up the mountain and went snowboarding'
Don't know about anybody else, but that sounds heaven to me!!.
Donna
Anyway, have a look at Dunedin, could have the best of both worlds!
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Jun 9th 2003, 8:00 pm
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Originally posted by TimEh?
is concerned.
The only negative perspective I had was that it is a bit on the socialist side with not very good wages and high-priced, second-hand cars. But that's all. I'll just have to be happy with the wonderful NZ lamb in our supermarkets.
is concerned.
The only negative perspective I had was that it is a bit on the socialist side with not very good wages and high-priced, second-hand cars. But that's all. I'll just have to be happy with the wonderful NZ lamb in our supermarkets.
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Jun 9th 2003, 8:18 pm
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Originally posted by WilfredSlipshod
Not true about the cars - NZ is lowest price for 2nd hand cars in the western world.
Kind regards - Slipshod
Not true about the cars - NZ is lowest price for 2nd hand cars in the western world.
Kind regards - Slipshod
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Jun 9th 2003, 10:14 pm
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Originally posted by WilfredSlipshod
Not true about the cars - NZ is lowest price for 2nd hand cars in the western world.
Kind regards - Slipshod
Not true about the cars - NZ is lowest price for 2nd hand cars in the western world.
Kind regards - Slipshod
Did they move it then? Just kiddin'. My info IS out of date but I know at one time cars were really expensive there.
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Jun 9th 2003, 10:34 pm
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Originally posted by TimEh?
"...in the western world."
Did they move it then? Just kiddin'. My info IS out of date but I know at one time cars were really expensive there.
Cheers
"...in the western world."
Did they move it then? Just kiddin'. My info IS out of date but I know at one time cars were really expensive there.
Cheers
1. They have no local car industry to protect and so their is no incentive to tax car imports to protect the local industry.
2. Japan has a surplus of 2nd hand low mileage cars which they have trouble selling in Japan. It's big buisness in NZ for people or companies to go to Japan and buy up these cars and ship them to NZ. Japan cannot export these cars to other countries commercially as these other countries try to protect the local manufacturers and slap on hefty import duties.
This has the effect of bringing the price of ALL 2nd hand car prices down and the price of new cars drop dramatically when you have to resell it as a 2nd hand car.
Jun 9th 2003, 11:02 pm
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Originally posted by Kiwipaul
I don't know about cheapest in the Western world, but they are pretty cheap for 2 reasons.
1. They have no local car industry to protect and so their is no incentive to tax car imports to protect the local industry.
2. Japan has a surplus of 2nd hand low mileage cars which they have trouble selling in Japan. It's big buisness in NZ for people or companies to go to Japan and buy up these cars and ship them to NZ. Japan cannot export these cars to other countries commercially as these other countries try to protect the local manufacturers and slap on hefty import duties.
This has the effect of bringing the price of ALL 2nd hand car prices down and the price of new cars drop dramatically when you have to resell it as a 2nd hand car.
I don't know about cheapest in the Western world, but they are pretty cheap for 2 reasons.
1. They have no local car industry to protect and so their is no incentive to tax car imports to protect the local industry.
2. Japan has a surplus of 2nd hand low mileage cars which they have trouble selling in Japan. It's big buisness in NZ for people or companies to go to Japan and buy up these cars and ship them to NZ. Japan cannot export these cars to other countries commercially as these other countries try to protect the local manufacturers and slap on hefty import duties.
This has the effect of bringing the price of ALL 2nd hand car prices down and the price of new cars drop dramatically when you have to resell it as a 2nd hand car.
Jul 9th 2003, 8:00 pm
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Hi all, i'm new to the site and finding it compusive reading.
If you go to www.stats.govt.nz there is a link to the police official crime data all the info is on there.
If you go to www.stats.govt.nz there is a link to the police official crime data all the info is on there.
Jul 9th 2003, 9:26 pm
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If you know which town/city you want to live then go to their local council website and download the local area statistics.
Initially look at the education stats, this is a good catagory to initially determine what area can be classified as good and bad, e.g. an area where there are a high percentage of people with no qualifications will probably have a higher proportion of low income, single parent families. If you then go to the real estate sites you will see that those areas you have classified as "bad" will probably have the cheapest houses. Like anywhere you pay more money for a house in a better area.
Kara
Initially look at the education stats, this is a good catagory to initially determine what area can be classified as good and bad, e.g. an area where there are a high percentage of people with no qualifications will probably have a higher proportion of low income, single parent families. If you then go to the real estate sites you will see that those areas you have classified as "bad" will probably have the cheapest houses. Like anywhere you pay more money for a house in a better area.
Kara
Jul 18th 2003, 3:44 pm
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as I a NZer living in the UK for the last year, I find the negative comments surrounding violence in NZ ridiculous.
The UK feels far far more violent to me..... sure NZ has it's share, but to me many people in the UK seem to have a 'hard edge' to them, which you don't get so much in NZ. The kids in particular seem to get cooped up in their housing estates with little to do except be thugs in training. In general kids in NZ have more wide open spaces to go to.... and they play more sports which gives them something to do.
The other thing I notice living here is because of 11 o'clock closing, everybody gets far drunker far earlier in the evening/day, which tends to add to the chances of early evening fights or whatever. In NZ, families can go out up until about 11pm and not see a drunk, as they don't get started until 11pm or after. The real trouble starts around 3am...
The other thing (he says living in Oxford), is that NZ has far less homeless people.... NZ has a few, but typically they are old drunks who leave you alone - unlike Oxford where they can be quite aggressive and intimidating.
The UK has many many many good points, but to be honest I find the violent underbelly of the Uk far scarier that the violent underbelly of NZ...
The UK feels far far more violent to me..... sure NZ has it's share, but to me many people in the UK seem to have a 'hard edge' to them, which you don't get so much in NZ. The kids in particular seem to get cooped up in their housing estates with little to do except be thugs in training. In general kids in NZ have more wide open spaces to go to.... and they play more sports which gives them something to do.
The other thing I notice living here is because of 11 o'clock closing, everybody gets far drunker far earlier in the evening/day, which tends to add to the chances of early evening fights or whatever. In NZ, families can go out up until about 11pm and not see a drunk, as they don't get started until 11pm or after. The real trouble starts around 3am...
The other thing (he says living in Oxford), is that NZ has far less homeless people.... NZ has a few, but typically they are old drunks who leave you alone - unlike Oxford where they can be quite aggressive and intimidating.
The UK has many many many good points, but to be honest I find the violent underbelly of the Uk far scarier that the violent underbelly of NZ...
Jul 18th 2003, 8:44 pm
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Queenstown is a fantastic place to live,infact the whole area around it right through to Dunedin is quite lovely....its a 2 hour drive,well its taken me 2 hours everytime i do it and theres nearly always no traffic.I have cycled half the distance,try do that on a main highway in the UK.
As for the price of vehicles,they are cheaper than the UK by a long way.Only German cars command a premium here,everything else is far better value(but thats relative to how much you earn in $ of course)In Gore in South Island there are 8000 people in the surounding area...at anyone time there are over 700cars for sale in the town centre....its a difficult selling market.The plus side,its cheap to buy.Also,never have i been to a country with so many pick up trucks.....toyota must have the biggest market share in vehicles here by a country mile
As for the price of vehicles,they are cheaper than the UK by a long way.Only German cars command a premium here,everything else is far better value(but thats relative to how much you earn in $ of course)In Gore in South Island there are 8000 people in the surounding area...at anyone time there are over 700cars for sale in the town centre....its a difficult selling market.The plus side,its cheap to buy.Also,never have i been to a country with so many pick up trucks.....toyota must have the biggest market share in vehicles here by a country mile
Jul 19th 2003, 9:59 am
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I have only a limited experience of NZ but I am sure that jandjuk is right. There is a hard edge to a growing proportion of humourless Brits. There are many, many places in my locality (middle-class Hants/Berks border) that I would not walk alone and definetely not live.
That said I think that Brits are generally good people, though their tolerance of this country is diminishing.
Roger
That said I think that Brits are generally good people, though their tolerance of this country is diminishing.
Roger
