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Officer Dibble May 12th 2010 9:44 am

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by Deancm (Post 8559605)
Well look at what happened to the Aussie accent when Italian/Greek Europeans arrived. The only accent worse than an Aussie bogan accent is an Aussie wog accent...

Dont get me started on Aussie hip hop music.

Merseygirl May 12th 2010 12:46 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 
How did the scouse accent come about, thats what I want to know. :unsure:[/QUOTE]

A bit of Welsh + a bit of Irish + a bit of Lancashire = Scouse............apparently!
I guess being a major seaport all those years ago must have brought them altogether.

Deancm May 12th 2010 12:56 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by Merseygirl (Post 8560474)
A bit of Welsh + a bit of Irish + a bit of Lancashire = Scouse............apparently!
I guess being a major seaport all those years ago must have brought them altogether.

There's a lot of similarities between the Scouse and Mancunian accent.

woody1974 May 12th 2010 1:03 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 8558055)
I think the same when I hear thick-ass Midlands, Manchester, Welsh accents. Really magnified.

bit superior of yourself what crap accent have you got, and what gives you the right to slag anyone else off, its people like you i wanted to move away from but more and more appear

BadgeIsBack May 12th 2010 3:03 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by jad n rich (Post 8559496)
Lower orders ;) hey what happened to OZ having no class system:p.

As you say, the professional orders ( of brisbane and melb ) have to modify the 'common' version of the aussie accent, can you actually imagine being taken serioulsy as a Lawyer or Consultant with a Hogan twang:eek:.

The lower orders as you put it, exist in melbourne too, have you ever been to a sporting event down there:eek: Just as bad as Queensland.

Aussies also tend to do the aussie twang more when with others, can remember partner in the states, seeing another aussie and they both started speaking in a language unkown to me:lol: They go right off, totally OTT aussies all of a sudden:unsure: My sons dental consultant is the same, to us he is fairly well spoken, no accent, but as soon as some old 'aussie cobber' walks in, he goes into mate/bonza mode.

Hopefully the accent will die out :rofl: as more migrants arrive.

Interesing. I think that modifying thing shows some sort of 'classless' spirit - there are people in the UK who would never modify their accent. And also there is probably a much wider mid range in Australia.

I know there are poor examples in Melbourne but your story reinforced the really bad [Qld] ones. My point was that it was more of a demographic, not an Australian one. You said the accent was awful - but not all surely. We have a Qld boy down here during some of the week and he has the most raspy voice I have ever heard in professional life in Australia. Maybe Qld is more pronounced! The most badly behaved bloke we had presenting to us who had the girls complaining was also a Qlder...food for thought!

BadgeIsBack May 12th 2010 3:16 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by DadAgain (Post 8559397)
Having read your last post and sat here odding quietly in agreement with I have to pick you up on this.

Have you spend any time in professional Brisbane circles? Your constant references to Qld accents are not fully correct.

I'd still maintain that a "Modern Professional Australian" accent is a nationwide phenomenon and can be clearly distinguished from the "Rural Australian" ('haaaaaws it gawwwwwn?') and ts close relative "Urban Bogan Australian".

All of these accents occur all over the country as far as I've seen and there are very few people in the business world who havent at least moved away from their 'native' accent towards the more accepted "Modern Australian".

Teenagers always seem to gravitate towards what you refer to as 'lower order' accents - I know as a young teen I would have sounded distinctly esturine - but its a phase most grow out of.

Agree with all the above. It was partly a response to the way Jad portrayed the [QLD] accents which she knows which I think is too negative, and does not serve professional QLDers. I can understand that if there was a pecking order of states, QLD might suffer more than others. Remember a lot of complaints come out of QLD and we have to take people's word for it. I can't really speak for QLD as I don't live there - but Jad does.

Rudd is a QLDer!

Lower orders - injoke..

You're bang on with country - and Urban Bogan of course...

nickyjohnt May 12th 2010 4:15 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by Deancm (Post 8559605)
Well look at what happened to the Aussie accent when Italian/Greek Europeans arrived. The only accent worse than an Aussie bogan accent is an Aussie wog accent...

Be carefull when you mention the word WOG, Some of the mods don't like it especially the ones that have never experianced living here in Oz;)

John

Pollyana May 12th 2010 4:19 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by nickyjohnt (Post 8560858)
Be carefull when you mention the word WOG, Some of the mods don't like it especially the ones that have never experianced living here in Oz;)

John

Nothing to do with whether we like it or not. The word, and many others like it, is considered offensive by many of our posters, that is why we ask for its use to be avoided.

And yes, I have been experiencing living here for 7 years, but that has nothing to do with it.

Alfresco May 12th 2010 6:54 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 8559055)
The south african one is pretty awful as well

Wot? <- (silent T)

There are many different S.A. accents. Nice generalization. :thumbdown:

Anyway, Oz accent origin:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_English

markbhx May 12th 2010 9:27 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by sadieb (Post 8557949)
Hi
I spoke to a few Australian historians in Oz (yes they do have them)
I asked where the Australian accent came from and none of them were able to answer.
Most looked really shocked and offended and said we have always spoken like this. !!

Thanks

lol, the good old aussie intellect! Would love to see an aussie mastermind

Deancm May 12th 2010 9:45 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by nickyjohnt (Post 8560858)
Be carefull when you mention the word WOG, Some of the mods don't like it especially the ones that have never experianced living here in Oz;)

John

Well we are in the Australian forum and WOG is used by WOGS to describe themselves in Australia. Just like the word POM is quite acceptable in Australia.

If any overly PC Americans want to say something they should pay a visit to Australia first or keep their comments to themselves.

Deancm May 12th 2010 9:55 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 8560862)
Nothing to do with whether we like it or not. The word, and many others like it, is considered offensive by many of our posters, that is why we ask for its use to be avoided.

And yes, I have been experiencing living here for 7 years, but that has nothing to do with it.

People that are offended by the use of the word need to understand that there are cultural differences in the world and what they may deem as being acceptable may be unacceptable in other cultures and vice versa. These people should stop forcing their cultural beliefs on other people and pay more attention to their own backyard.

As they say, when in Rome...

Some example of popular Melbourne (Australian) culture:

- Wogs Out of Work (Stage comedy show)

- Wog Boy (Movie)

- Wog Boy 2: Kings of Mykonos (Movie sequel)

ozzieeagle May 12th 2010 10:29 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by Deancm (Post 8561598)
- Wog Boy (Movie)

- Wog Boy 2: Kings of Mykonos (Movie sequel)

On the radio yesterday Nick Giannopoulos, the writer of the Wog Boy series, said he was really proud the way that he played a part in regaining ownership of the word WOG for the Ethnic Mediterraneans in this country. It can never be used against them again the way it was in the 50's and 60's


Heres an insight the those still in the UK as to what it's all about.... and the accent that goes along with it.



fish.01 May 12th 2010 10:49 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by markbhx (Post 8561569)
lol, the good old aussie intellect! Would love to see an aussie mastermind

:) Though I guess thinking one country can have a higher intellect than another might immediately get you put in the stooopid basket by thinking people :p

Amazulu May 12th 2010 11:43 pm

Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
 

Originally Posted by woody1974 (Post 8560524)
bit superior of yourself what crap accent have you got, and what gives you the right to slag anyone else off, its people like you i wanted to move away from but more and more appear

Oh well, looks like your life in Australia is not going to be what you wanted it to be - my heart bleeds.
My post was in response to all the attacks on the Austalian accent in this thread - obviously some don't like the Aussie accent. I don't like some UK accents, others I do.

I'm not from the UK.


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