Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 8558111)
I read recently that 300 years ago, people in London basically spoke like Australians do now. As none of us was around then I doubt whether we will ever know if this is true.
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Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by Amazulu
(Post 8558055)
I think the same when I hear thick-ass Midlands, Manchester, Welsh accents. Really magnified.
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Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Seen Anna Friel being interviewed by Jonathon Ross years ago about a film in which she had an Australian accent. She explained how she "mastered" the accent something along the lines of talking like a cockney but then having to squint your eyes because of all the sunshine and then out comes australian ;)
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Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by mohogony
(Post 8558672)
Why do Canadians have pity much the same accent as people from the USA and not their own accent? and where did the American accent come from? the Irish?
Since the first settlers arrived in the US, Europe has had a massive effect on the English language, accent and spelling and the Americans haven't had the same influence. |
Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by Officer Dibble
(Post 8558050)
Ive noticed in recent years the Aussie accent (particularly among teenagers), has started to develop a slight American twang to it.
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Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by sadieb
(Post 8558081)
At least you can avoid those places in the UK and not hear those accents, unfortunately in Oz every one has the same nasaly drawl
Hence no escape from that high pitched drawn out accent. The worst Australian voices have a nasal, even rasping quality but the worst tends to be owned by the lower orders, with a better variant with superior diction in use in the country. I confess that I have been here long enough that I hear it from my own lips at times...I don't mind the country variant - much like I don't mind the true Cockney accent - not the faux Estuary that has been adopted by the SouthEast. Another annoying Australian accent is the female surburban variant - with the infamous rising intonation mixed in with Callifornian Valley girl babble. Another male annoyance is when the owner sounds distinctly gay. These accents seeem to be adopted only on public transport or in suburbia - I have never heard them in common usage by friends, acquaintances and colleagues. It's interesting that you have found no relief from awful Australian accents -professional and educated Australians - in Melbourne at least - moderate the drawl and although they don't adopt RP, have pleasant diction which is missing from many of the lower English orders - and end up with a very pleasant English international accent. When I first came across it I found myself asking if they were English. One such accent comes from the Western Districts of Victoria. One of my wife's friends speaks with RP but it was beaten into her at school. A mate of mine has a public schoolboy accent but less high pitched. He did go to a very smart school though by his own admission. |
Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Sorry but its an awful sounding accent. One of the teens hit 15 and developed what was either a teengage mumble:lol: or an aussie drawl, I just told him, "cant understand a word your saying" till he spoke properly again. The crazy thing was the kids teachers had all commented on how well they spoke, manners and accent up till then. I would really hate daughters to develop the aussie accent:eek:, and the women talk so LOUD, why:eek: its awful.
I have to deal with a lot of aussie tradesmen on the phone, it really is hard sometimes to understand the Yeahhhhh, Naaaahhhh, gerrrrrrr, the only words that are clear are the swear words:lol: And I hate the T being pronounced as a D. Dwenny bucks, the news punctuated with the 'dwennys' drives me mad. |
Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by jad n rich
(Post 8559185)
I have to deal with a lot of aussie tradesmen on the phone, it really is hard sometimes to understand the Yeahhhhh, Naaaahhhh, gerrrrrrr, the only words that are clear are the swear words:lol:
And I hate the T being pronounced as a D. Dwenny bucks, the news punctuated with the 'dwennys' drives me mad. Average English accents would sound better if people lost the glotttal stop or the lazy regionalism. Not the accent - the lazy part of it. Many average Australian accents would sound better if they lost the rasp. It's a shame because many Victorians have nice vowels and sound consonants - losing the rasp would be almost easy. And that's precisly what some Melbournians do. Years ago, when I was in my late teens, I had people asking me if I was from South Africa. Most bizarre. But there are South African accents which are influenced by RP. |
Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Could be worse, could all come from wherever Loyd Grossman was spawned.
Or Chelmsford. |
Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by Officer Dibble
(Post 8558061)
A mate of mine in England was from Queensland and we'd all piss ourselves laughing when he said 'pool' and 'school' in that true Queensland fashion.
Originally Posted by DeadVim
(Post 8559223)
Could be worse, could all come from wherever Loyd Grossman was spawned.
Or Chelmsford. From there comes Estuary and it has been making inroads into London and the rest of the South East ever since. Jad's kids are adopting the aussy 'teen' accent, English teens in the SouthEast adopt their teen version of Estuary. You can but hope that all teens moderate it as they move into the worforce... |
Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by Grayling
(Post 8559055)
The south african one is pretty awful as well
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Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by DeadVim
(Post 8559223)
Or Chelmsford. |
Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by fish.01
(Post 8558117)
my least favourite is the middle class english accent. ;)
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Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 8559261)
How's it go? I remember a boy at school from Middlesborough who had everyone in stitches when he said 'school'. It was 'sckuuooouuul' and he still managed to strangle a vowel or two in a way I can't show or fathom, even now!
My mother spent time in South Essex and clearly loathed the accent which she said was vastly inferior to a Cockney accent. She said it was a 'garbled' version of it - which it is - a version I mean. From there comes Estuary and it has been making inroads into London and the rest of the South East ever since. Jad's kids are adopting the aussy 'teen' accent, English teens in the SouthEast adopt their teen version of Estuary. You can but hope that all teens moderate it as they move into the worforce... |
Re: Where did the Aussie accent come from?
Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack
(Post 8559213)
Some of that would be definitely QLD. In Victoria there is definite departures from the worst.
Have you spend any time in professional Brisbane circles? Your constant references to Qld accents are not fully correct. I'd still maintain that a "Modern Professional Australian" accent is a nationwide phenomenon and can be clearly distinguished from the "Rural Australian" ('haaaaaws it gawwwwwn?') and ts close relative "Urban Bogan Australian". All of these accents occur all over the country as far as I've seen and there are very few people in the business world who havent at least moved away from their 'native' accent towards the more accepted "Modern Australian". Teenagers always seem to gravitate towards what you refer to as 'lower order' accents - I know as a young teen I would have sounded distinctly esturine - but its a phase most grow out of. |
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