Grayling

Exactly Jeremy.

Think of the uproar there would be if migrants to the UK were allowed to bring their elderly non-contributing parents to the UK who could then use the health service.

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65 million

Thanks JAJ, the parent migration booklet looks like a good start.

Much appreciated.

65KK

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What is the criteria for auss government handing out refugee visas - who pays for their healthcare - do they work - do they pay taxes? Where we come from there is not such thing as government "handouts" or a government "healthcare" system - so we probably look at things from a different perspective - as far as I am concerned parent visas should be considered on a case by case basis - taking into consideration the family support you have in auss - are you able to contribute to society e.g. work, pay tax - maybe I am living in a dream world

DunRoaminTheUK

Hi.

So, if choosing the contributory parent VISA path, a succesful VISA grant takes less than 1 year on average, from the date of application?

Thanks.

stevenpoole9

Quote by a high ranking officer at DIMIA. "the immigration system is run for the benefit of Australia, not the immigrant"
What that unfortunately means for you is that, yes your parents may well work for the next 10 - 15 years before retiring, but they could then have to be supported by the tax-payer for another 20 years after that.
There is no way they could earn enough money in what is left of their working years to possibly support themselves. it is unfortunate, but they are the rules.
The difference between parents of visa applications and refugees is simple. the Australian government have to take a certain amount of refugees, they do not have to take any parents.
There has to be a "cut off" line somewhere, and if you fall the wrong side of the line that's bad luck.
The alternative is to let in everybody regardless of language, skills, means of support etc. You then end up with a situation where, for example, 300 nurses are being made redundant, even though there is a shortage, just to save money in the health service. Why not sack a couple of managers instead? Mind you, that be like asking turkey's to vote for Christmas, wouldn't it?
If you would like to see what happens to a country when it loses control over it's immigration policy, I suggest you get on the next flight to the Uk. You could also take all your family with you, no questions asked.

Grayling

Yes

Mine took less than 6 months but that was a while ago.

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The difference between parents of visa applications and refugees is simple. the Australian government have to take a certain amount of refugees, they do not have to take any parents.

"Have to" - says who?

You could also take all your family with you, no questions asked.[/QUOTE]

Funny that I entered the UK on a foreign passport (one from Africa ) - for a holiday mind you and I was asked a million and one questions - maybe I was one of the few..

Grayling

That is simply untrue

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stevenpoole9

I bow to your greater knowledge................................

Obviously we have no illegal immigrants in the UK.
They are all here to pay their way and build a better future for us all.

The fact that the GOVERNMENT have LOST over 350,000 illegal immigrants in the last 2 years appears to have escaped your attention.

Grayling

Most countries have illegal immigrants.....including Australia.

The Americans have 'lost' several million...or do you only read the Daily mail?

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stevenpoole9

The obviously misinformed and biasaed Telegraph actually.

Boring.

Unsunbscribed.

renth

Guess which 2 countires provides Australia with most Illegal immigrants?

UK and USA.

renth

Australia is a signatory of the of the UN 1951 Refugee Convention and, in my opinion, does a great job taking thousands of genuine refugees every year.

The fact that Australia doesn't approve of people who pay people smugglers to deliver them to our shores means that many people think Australia "doesn't take assylum seekers" - it does.

JAJ

Many "refugees" do work, pay taxes and buld quite successful lives for themselves in Australia, given time. However, humanitarian migration is not assessed in terms of economic benefit, nor should it be.


That's what the "balance of family" test is there for: only in these cases does the Australian community feel it's justified for the "family reunion" to take place in Australia as opposed to some other countries.

As regards those parents who are "skilled" - nothing stopping them applying for a general skilled (eg skilled sponsored) or employer nominated migration (ENS/RSMS) visa if they qualify under the normal rules. Some working age parents do get in that way.

kiwichild

Australia is a signatory to many UN agreements and conventions. I am pretty sure one of these requires countries assessed as having the capacity to take refugees and requires them to meet minimum agreed quotas each year.