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geary11 Sep 8th 2005 2:07 am

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is it true that even as a family we can still get tax credits as we do over here,or is different?

woodyinoz Sep 8th 2005 2:25 am

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Originally Posted by geary11
is it true that even as a family we can still get tax credits as we do over here,or is different?

When you first get here you are entitled to Family tax credit as long as you have kids. The amount varies dependant on the age of the kids and income. You can check it out on
Centre link

geary11 Sep 8th 2005 2:33 am

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thanks for that,that will be bedtime reading tonite with a glass or two of wine!
:)

SalSa Sep 8th 2005 2:33 am

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[QUOTE=spalen].....So as long as you pushed his dead ass over the line at customs & Immigration first ' you'd be right'

That's brilliant! :p
Chuckling about that all day now :p

toon williams Sep 8th 2005 7:37 am

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Everyone is so knowledgable about their visas, we are using an agent and all I know is my husbands skill is on the MODL, and that is the visa we trying to get!!

So from what everyone said does that mean we would all therefore be permanent residents and therefore not be kicked out if divorce or worse happens??

Just need it spelt out in black and white!!

JAJ Sep 8th 2005 7:42 am

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Originally Posted by toon williams
Everyone is so knowledgable about their visas, we are using an agent and all I know is my husbands skill is on the MODL, and that is the visa we trying to get!!

So from what everyone said does that mean we would all therefore be permanent residents and therefore not be kicked out if divorce or worse happens??

Just need it spelt out in black and white!!

If you have a skilled independent visa (subclass 136) and once you have both validated it, it will not be cancelled for a subsequent separation/divorce/illness/death of one partner.

The only caveats about separation/divorce are:
- if DIMIA think you were really separated when the visa was validated; and
- if children are involved, the fact you have visas does not exempt you from the need to get clearance under UK law to bring them to Australia if the other partner is now no longer migrating.

If you're on a temporary visa such as SIR then things will be completely different.

Jeremy

uk+kiwi Sep 8th 2005 7:48 am

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Originally Posted by toon williams
So glad you are thinking the same was starting to think everyone thought I was a little Crazzzzzy asking this question!!

It's good to think about these things. One thing along similar lines that I would like to point out since you seem to want to be covered for all eventualities, is that if you all have PR and something happens to your marriage (ie you separate/divorce), custody of any children (& all other divorce related matters) would be dealt with in the country of which you are resident - ie Australia.

For either parent to remove children from Aus (eg wife has main custody and wants to return to UK with kids), the case would have to go to court and be agreed upon by both parents usually. This is how some people (mothers usually), end up being stuck in a country other than their homeland.

Not happy thoughts, so perhaps not ideal to dwell on them too much! :D

toon williams Sep 8th 2005 7:49 am

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Originally Posted by JAJ
If you have a skilled independent visa (subclass 136) and once you have both validated it, it will not be cancelled for a subsequent separation/divorce/illness/death of one partner.

The only caveats about separation/divorce are:
- if DIMIA think you were really separated when the visa was validated; and
- if children are involved, the fact you have visas does not exempt you from the need to get clearance under UK law to bring them to Australia if the other partner is now no longer migrating.

If you're on a temporary visa such as SIR then things will be completely different.

Jeremy




Thank you Jeremy that pretty much spells it out to me!! At least now I can sleep in peace tonight not worrying about that one!!

No doubt though something else will come into my head just as I drifting off and keep me from yet another nights sleep!!

toon williams Sep 8th 2005 7:54 am

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Originally Posted by uk+kiwi
It's good to think about these things. One thing along similar lines that I would like to point out since you seem to want to be covered for all eventualities, is that if you all have PR and something happens to your marriage (ie you separate/divorce), custody of any children (& all other divorce related matters) would be dealt with in the country of which you are resident - ie Australia.

For either parent to remove children from Aus (eg wife has main custody and wants to return to UK with kids), the case would have to go to court and be agreed upon by both parents usually. This is how some people (mothers usually), end up being stuck in a country other than their homeland.

Not happy thoughts, so perhaps not ideal to dwell on them too much! :D


I agree these points I have raised are not happy points and likewise with what you have stated, but I think that it is vital (well it is for me) to know ALL the ins and outs of situations!!

That way I can make a clear decision as to our future.

uk+kiwi Sep 8th 2005 7:58 am

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Originally Posted by toon williams
I agree these points I have raised are not happy points and likewise with what you have stated, but I think that it is vital (well it is for me) to know ALL the ins and outs of situations!!

That way I can make a clear decision as to our future.

good for you. :) i do think it's better to think ahead than not to think at all!

best of luck with the move - i don't normally post on the Aus forum, but it's so much busier than the NZ one so i popped in for a nosey! :D

wholeworldwindow Dec 12th 2005 11:54 am

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Sorry to resurect an old thread! What about a subclass 139 - already validated 9 months ago? And if hubby is main carer for kids and the worst scenario happends and we split up? (my work has soared and is unfortunatly pulling me away from family slowly but surely!) I love Australia and sooooo want to stay here, if that worst case scenario happens.

mysnix Dec 12th 2005 12:04 pm

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JAJ,

What about a 137 - STNI visa, already validated.

Just for peace of mind .. :rolleyes:

Nikki
xx

ljj Dec 12th 2005 12:13 pm

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Another thing I worry about...

If something happens to both me and my Hubby, what about the kids? We are PR about to have Citizenship ceremony. On our Will (in the UK 8 years ago) we stated who we would like to bring the children up if anything happened to us.

There is NO WAY I want my children to have to go back to the UK (unless they want to when they are older). How does it stand if we re-write our Will's and state we want X and Y to bring up the children but in Oz? (We know X and Y want to move to Oz but wouldn't make the points).

We moved here for a better life for the children and that's what they have here. It wouldn't be fair on them to miss out on the opportunities and way of life here just cos me and Hubby pop our clogs :eek:

Louise

BadgeIsBack Dec 12th 2005 12:17 pm

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I can understand this scenario.

What it comes down to then is that you like the idea Australia so much you want to stay here whatever happens, it's a viewpoint quite understandable. Without the man in your life, you may well feel that you'd rather look for a man 'in the sun', than back out of it (or whatever cooks your goose). And things happen. If you were on your own, choice of lifestyle and location is even more important.

So not necessarily an ulterior motive.

:D

JAJ Dec 12th 2005 1:21 pm

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Originally Posted by wholeworldwindow
Sorry to resurect an old thread! What about a subclass 139 - already validated 9 months ago? And if hubby is main carer for kids and the worst scenario happends and we split up? (my work has soared and is unfortunatly pulling me away from family slowly but surely!) I love Australia and sooooo want to stay here, if that worst case scenario happens.


139 - permanent visa - same rules.





Jeremy


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