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aston man Sep 24th 2006 4:42 am

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by louisec
hi there what type of qualifation do you need for building would nvq level 2,3 and nvq in capentry and joinery gets us a visa to work????? :o

i have just passed my TRA as an ex hod carrier,i started as a labourer and worked my way up to my own business but never gained any qualifications so i would of thought you would be more than fine.

you will have to prove your employment history though,i had to go back nearly 15 years.

good luck in your venture.

aston

sassenach Sep 24th 2006 11:28 pm

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by aston man
i have just passed my TRA as an ex hod carrier,i started as a labourer and worked my way up to my own business but never gained any qualifications so i would of thought you would be more than fine.

you will have to prove your employment history though,i had to go back nearly 15 years.

good luck in your venture.

aston

nowt wrong that ''you got to learn to carry em before you lay em '' i was told ,spent many an hour running the monkey

louisec Sep 25th 2006 3:11 am

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by sassenach
nowt wrong that ''you got to learn to carry em before you lay em '' i was told ,spent many an hour running the monkey

hi there thank you for your reply is there enough work out there for builders we are looking to move to perth ;)

louisec Sep 25th 2006 3:16 am

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by aston man
i have just passed my TRA as an ex hod carrier,i started as a labourer and worked my way up to my own business but never gained any qualifications so i would of thought you would be more than fine.

you will have to prove your employment history though,i had to go back nearly 15 years.

good luck in your venture.

aston

he just finished training at college he starting welding course he only got work experience so far would that make it more difficult! which would he be best doing building or welding! :)

sassenach Sep 25th 2006 8:46 pm

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by louisec
he just finished training at college he starting welding course he only got work experience so far would that make it more difficult! which would he be best doing building or welding! :)

building here in perth anyway :)

LouiseD Oct 5th 2006 6:01 pm

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by oxford bricky
Hi there,

Just a word of caution to any bricklayers wanting to emigrate to Victoria, we have been here for 6 months now, and can honestly say we are not finding that bricklayers are in such high demand as people will lead you to believe, I have found work in my trade hard to find, and not very well paid.

I am highly skilled and qualified in my trade, and have never been out of work in the UK and always earnt top rates.

So any bricklayers planning to come to Victoria, make sure you have loads of cash, because you will not be as well off as you are in the UK.

Hi there
I'm a bit late in adding my comments to this thread as I've only just found it but felt that I just had to agree with Oxford Bricky.

We've been in Melbourne for around 10 months now and are still dipping into our UK savings to pay the rent because of the appalling low wages that brickies are paid here. My OH brings home around half of what he used to earn in the UK and thats if he manages to get a full week in. Since we've been here, he's worked about six full weeks - the other weeks he's had to take days off because the guy(s) he's working for don't have any work on - obviously the days you don't work, you don't get paid.

Things are so bad that we have said enough is enough and will be cutting our losses here and heading home fairly soon. We did want to pack it all in when we found out the rates but thought that we would stick it out and at least try after all we'd been through to get here. When we first arrived, everyone we spoke to was telling us "you'll earn a fortune as a brickie over here" of course this was utter nonsense and you soon learn the reality of it all.

Just to rub salt in the wound even further, OH got work on a commercial site just over 3 weeks ago so had to join the union to be able to work on the site. He paid his union fees which were around $100, worked a week and then was laid off for two weeks! It's a complete joke here in Victoria - like going back to the Thatcher years in the UK, scratching around for any titbit of a job thats going. We can't wait to get out of here and start living again.

Listen to the original poster and don't bother coming here if you are a brickie.

renth Oct 5th 2006 6:14 pm

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by LouiseD
Things are so bad that we have said enough is enough and will be cutting our losses here and heading home fairly soon.

Get your arses over to Perth, brickies here are earning a fortune. Perth's full of Loadsamoney brickies.

http://www.theratandmouse.co.uk/webl...oadsamoney.jpg

cresta57 Oct 5th 2006 6:23 pm

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by renth
Get your arses over to Perth, brickies here are earning a fortune. Perth's full of Loadsamoney brickies.

http://www.theratandmouse.co.uk/webl...oadsamoney.jpg

Wasn't he a plasterer? :D

renth Oct 5th 2006 7:44 pm

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by cresta57
Wasn't he a plasterer? :D

Well, yes, but you know what I mean...

Harry Enfield, currently residing in the "where are they now?" file.

barrymce36 Oct 6th 2006 9:56 am

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by LouiseD
Hi there
I'm a bit late in adding my comments to this thread as I've only just found it but felt that I just had to agree with Oxford Bricky.

We've been in Melbourne for around 10 months now and are still dipping into our UK savings to pay the rent because of the appalling low wages that brickies are paid here. My OH brings home around half of what he used to earn in the UK and thats if he manages to get a full week in. Since we've been here, he's worked about six full weeks - the other weeks he's had to take days off because the guy(s) he's working for don't have any work on - obviously the days you don't work, you don't get paid.

Things are so bad that we have said enough is enough and will be cutting our losses here and heading home fairly soon. We did want to pack it all in when we found out the rates but thought that we would stick it out and at least try after all we'd been through to get here. When we first arrived, everyone we spoke to was telling us "you'll earn a fortune as a brickie over here" of course this was utter nonsense and you soon learn the reality of it all.

Just to rub salt in the wound even further, OH got work on a commercial site just over 3 weeks ago so had to join the union to be able to work on the site. He paid his union fees which were around $100, worked a week and then was laid off for two weeks! It's a complete joke here in Victoria - like going back to the Thatcher years in the UK, scratching around for any titbit of a job thats going. We can't wait to get out of here and start living again.

Listen to the original poster and don't bother coming here if you are a brickie.


Hi louise,
sorry to hear yous have had such a hard time over there. my partner and i dont know anyone who lives out there so we dont know much of what to expect we own our own house own car each 2 boys at school. So if we do go it will mean selling all we have taking a big risk. Its good to hear from someone to is out there who could maybe give us advice on best areas to live and stuff. You and your husband have had such a hard time of it over there over here jobs are just as hard to get now people want you to work for pittens. Would yous not consider moving to a different part to see if yous can do better! can i ask u what u meant by rates!!

jad n rich Oct 6th 2006 10:09 am

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by renth

Get your arses over to Perth, brickies here are earning a fortune. Perth's full of Loadsamoney brickies.

Yeah a thousand a day :D :D

A few perth brickies posted in the other brickies thread that got closed, they only reported wages of around $300 a day tops.

The $1000 figure was the subcontractors, they supply, pay wages, GST, inusrances, overheads etc out of that figure.

Plenty of work tho, nobody doubted that part.

ferguson641120 Dec 27th 2006 8:40 pm

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 
hi there

does anyone know what is the standard procedure for applying for a blue card and what qualifications(if any) are required. we will hopefully be moving to perth september time and i hear i will need this card to start work as i'm a bricklayer.

any information would be helpful.
cheers

Poppy 2 Dec 27th 2006 10:05 pm

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 
I think this is the same as the green card. My other half is a brickie by trade and he has got his, it costs $120 and it is for health and safety and it took him four hours and I think he basically had to listen to a guy going through the health and safety issues of working as a tradesman and then he gets a certificate and he will be sent his card in the post. I am sure it must be the same in Perth. I have heard of people completing them on the internet before they come out, but don't know much about that. People advertise the course in the local papers, so you just choose the one being done nearest where you'll be.

Good luck.

I think the blue card is now called the green card or thats maybe what its called in perth.

sassenach Dec 27th 2006 10:52 pm

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 

Originally Posted by Poppy 2
I think this is the same as the green card. My other half is a brickie by trade and he has got his, it costs $120 and it is for health and safety and it took him four hours and I think he basically had to listen to a guy going through the health and safety issues of working as a tradesman and then he gets a certificate and he will be sent his card in the post. I am sure it must be the same in Perth. I have heard of people completing them on the internet before they come out, but don't know much about that. People advertise the course in the local papers, so you just choose the one being done nearest where you'll be.

Good luck.

I think the blue card is now called the green card or thats maybe what its called in perth.

The blue card is replacing the green card ,it will be illegal as from 1st jan to work on jobs without it .wether this goes for housing i am not sure but for commercial work there will be nobody allowed onsite without it .If you have a valid green card that is ok untill it runs out .

midgetjan Dec 28th 2006 12:01 am

Re: Warning for bricklayers
 
So, if Perth is excellent for brickies, what's it like for roof slater and tilers?

Are they in great demand? Well paid? Do they need a green card?


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