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Old May 24th 2012 | 9:16 am
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Originally Posted by Pollyana
Remember those are all Australian websites, and as far as the majority of Aussies are concerned their country can do no wrong
Like has been said before, approach it realistically, have a good read of the stuff on here and you'll get every viewpoint you could wish for - positive, negative and indifferent!
Personally I guess I fall into the last one, I spend most of my waking hours at work, the job is tedious but pays the bills, I could be in any western city for the amount of Brisbane that i actually see. Came here expecting to be married and live happy ever after, go to the beach, enjoy the sunshine and have a comfortable life........discovered the climate is too hot and humid for me most of the time, the only time I see a beach is when I go back home on holiday and I'm now a crabby divorcee! So much for that dream
Yep, the dream, thats what i was hoping for lol, regarding the weather do you not.get used to it? And im sure in the next 5 years or so i will have a much better understanding of myself and what i want/need aswell as the experience of course
 
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Yep, the dream, thats what i was hoping for lol, regarding the weather do you not.get used to it? And im sure in the next 5 years or so i will have a much better understanding of myself and what i want/need aswell as the experience of course
No, you do not get used to the weather. Have you ever been outside in 45 degree heat having to wear long sleeves and a hat to prevent melanoma because the UV index is 14?

This past summer in Perth we had about 3 weeks where the temperature was over 40 every day. Blazing hot sun all freakin' day in houses with single pane glass and no insulation to keep the heat out. Even the water in the pool was over 40 some days. Now we're coming into winter so we have the next 3 months of cold, wind and horizontal rain to look forward to.

And I'm still not sure what "dream" you refer to. As loads of us have pointed out Australia is a first world country with first world problems. There is no "dream" to be had here. We all have to get up in the morning to go to work. We all have bills and housework and grocery shopping just like you have there. Australia is not some sort of utopia. The streets are not paved with gold here. It's bloody hard work being an immigrant!

What you need to bear in mind is that what I'm telling you comes from someone who is relatively happily settled in Australia. You just need to take off your rose tinted glasses and do some actual research on the place you think you want to move to.
 
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No, you do not get used to the weather. Have you ever been outside in 45 degree heat having to wear long sleeves and a hat to prevent melanoma because the UV index is 14?

This past summer in Perth we had about 3 weeks where the temperature was over 40 every day. Blazing hot sun all freakin' day in houses with single pane glass and no insulation to keep the heat out. Even the water in the pool was over 40 some days. Now we're coming into winter so we have the next 3 months of cold, wind and horizontal rain to look forward to.

And I'm still not sure what "dream" you refer to. As loads of us have pointed out Australia is a first world country with first world problems. There is no "dream" to be had here. We all have to get up in the morning to go to work. We all have bills and housework and grocery shopping just like you have there. Australia is not some sort of utopia. The streets are not paved with gold here. It's bloody hard work being an immigrant!

What you need to bear in mind is that what I'm telling you comes from someone who is relatively happily settled in Australia. You just need to take off your rose tinted glasses and do some actual research on the place you think you want to move to.
like Pollyana said, moved their for "the perfect life" to be married, happy, by the beach, and so on. but its exactly that, a dream. i have been to auss 3 times, and ive been to africa twice i know the heat can get high, ive never been anywhere where it has been completely unbareable, like you have described, just gone travelling at the wrong time of year maybe? i am more than willing to work hard, to make a good life for myself and my family. there is always a reason to want to emmigrate to another country were ever it may be in the world. thanks to the people on this site, i now know that it isnt a utopia, not that i did, i did expect there to be problems, but i have been shown others which i am gratefull for. maybe in 5 years time, once i am confident i have enough experience and my family are ready we make that move. but these insights from people who have already made the move are brilliant, i have had messages of goodluck, for some people its the best decision they have ever made. i have a growing family down under, especially in WA and perth. and i will not stop researching ove the coming years, moving across the globe is a huge and expensive decision, not one i will take lightly, i gaurentee. but if it was a decision to make now and money wasnt an issue, id go tommorow, if it failed, then so be it, atleast i tried and it would not be something i would regrett later on in life. i sure dont want to be sat as an old man saying, what if, what if

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Australia and Perth have obviously some pluses otherwise none of us would be here. However, the reasons we are here are varied and will depend on particular circumstances. For me it is the best place for my work. If I could do the same job in the UK with the same conditions we would be back there.

Don't underestimate the sun. It can be a serious pain. I have worked and lived around the world and find Oz summer can just be too much. Different if you are on holiday to living in it. Then the opposite can also be a pain. It is around zero this morning and like nearly all houses we have no insulation and no heating. Not fun.

There is crime and anti social behavior. Teen pregnancy and kids getting drunk. Australia has one of the biggest drug problems is the world. Last year the police found hundreds of drug labs in WA. God knows how many were actually operating, but the ones found would be the tip of the iceberg.

There are more jobs here and the economy is in better shape than the UK, but nobody knows what it will be like in the future.

People think that kids in Perth are playing out all day, but it has been a news story recently that kids here spend less time outdoors than most other places. I can imagine that part of this is to stop them joining to 40% of Australians that will develop skin cancer

A significant plus for children is the ability to spend times in different cultures and cheap easy trips to Europe from the UK is a big plus. Not easy from Perth which is a very isolated city.

But, there are lots of people that come here and would never go back and it may be the right decision for you. But if you do do it, make sure it is for the right reasons.
 
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Yep, the dream, thats what i was hoping for lol, regarding the weather do you not.get used to it? And im sure in the next 5 years or so i will have a much better understanding of myself and what i want/need aswell as the experience of course
After nine years? Nope, still hate it, it just doesn't suit me. Brisbane has several months of being hot and humid - though admittedly not as hot as Perth (usually) or as humid as Cairns. 12 minutes walk to the station 7am, dripping wet before you get on the train, stand on the train with other dripping wet commuters, 12 minutes walk to the office, dripping wet and hot on arrival, quickly turning to freezing in the air con. Same again in reverse at 6pm.
Some people get used to it, some love it.
 
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After nine years? Nope, still hate it, it just doesn't suit me. Brisbane has several months of being hot and humid - though admittedly not as hot as Perth (usually) or as humid as Cairns. 12 minutes walk to the station 7am, dripping wet before you get on the train, stand on the train with other dripping wet commuters, 12 minutes walk to the office, dripping wet and hot on arrival, quickly turning to freezing in the air con. Same again in reverse at 6pm.
Some people get used to it, some love it.
Indeed, it's an incredibly personal thing. The climate here is perfect for me, I wouldn't like the Brissie climate and definitely wouldn't want to live in Cairns, Perth, Adelaide etc in their summers. It's plain luck if you arrive at an area that suits, I would never have imagined that the climate would be so different just 100kms up the road.
 
Old May 24th 2012 | 7:03 pm
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here in the UK we are having a little bit of summer, its lasted a week so far which is surely breaking records but i had read the sub climates in australia can vary massively, i thought queensland was the hottest part, with the golden coast and all. i was assuming that perth was slightly cooler by comparison, so thankyou for sharing that also. i will continue to read up and make sure we move to somewhere we will be able and the weather, i do not like humid to be honest. but with the economy here, double dip, the euro looks like that will collapse effecting the uk, maybe a move would be a must, but then the exchange rate would not ne kind to us, who knows what the future holds, if im lucky i could win the lottery to wishing aye. but i understand what you mean, the places i have vistited was beautiful, and was very nice while i was on holiday, but if it is good enough to spend the rest of our lives there? hmm
 
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here in the UK we are having a little bit of summer, its lasted a week so far which is surely breaking records but i had read the sub climates in australia can vary massively, i thought queensland was the hottest part, with the golden coast and all. i was assuming that perth was slightly cooler by comparison, so thankyou for sharing that also. i will continue to read up and make sure we move to somewhere we will be able and the weather, i do not like humid to be honest.
Perth isn't cooler, it's drier. In fact in summer they get it hotter (than here anyway). Weeks of 35/6 plus with no humidity, a couple of weeks worth of 40 plus where you can feel the moisture being sucked out of your body is not something I personally can deal with. Winter is colder - they had frost just south of Perth this morning, we just moan when it gets down to 9. That's a lie, we moan when it gets down to 20. We really grumble a lot when it gets down to 9.
 
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Perth isn't cooler, it's drier. In fact in summer they get it hotter (than here anyway). Weeks of 35/6 plus with no humidity, a couple of weeks worth of 40 plus where you can feel the moisture being sucked out of your body is not something I personally can deal with. Winter is colder - they had frost just south of Perth this morning, we just moan when it gets down to 9. That's a lie, we moan when it gets down to 20. We really grumble a lot when it gets down to 9.
Look out the next couple of mornings......single figures are approaching
 
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Look out the next couple of mornings......single figures are approaching
I will not be sticking any part of my anatomy out of the bedding until double figures are reached.
 
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I will not be sticking any part of my anatomy out of the bedding until double figures are reached.
You poor things. I'm in Canada (just west of Toronto) right now and we're suffering through another perfect day. Currently 21 and sunny at 8:15 am with a forecast high of 29.

The bad news is I'm going home on Monday and the old man emailed last night to say it's cold and wintery.
 
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You poor things. I'm in Canada (just west of Toronto) right now and we're suffering through another perfect day. Currently 21 and sunny at 8:15 am with a forecast high of 29.

The bad news is I'm going home on Monday and the old man emailed last night to say it's cold and wintery.
I love it, colder the better
 
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I love it, colder the better
That's just like my eldest nephew. He hates being hot! He point blank refuses to visit us when we get to Oz on the grounds that (and I quote) "It's three feet from the sun!". He's objecting to the lovely warm spell we've got here at the moment. That might be to do with the fact that his iPhone exploded in his pocket because of the heat though.
 
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I don't mind warmth, humidity at reasonable level, 60-70% and up to about 27 is OK, its the racing off to work, wearing proper work gear, suits and stuff, that gets me - and I really loathe both very high humidity and very low - drops below 35% and like Moneypenny said earlier I can feel the moisture being sucked out of me - very odd and it has to be experienced to understand it.
 
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I don't mind warmth, humidity at reasonable level, 60-70% and up to about 27 is OK, its the racing off to work, wearing proper work gear, suits and stuff, that gets me - and I really loathe both very high humidity and very low - drops below 35% and like Moneypenny said earlier I can feel the moisture being sucked out of me - very odd and it has to be experienced to understand it.
I'll never forget when I worked in Adelaide coming out of the hospital and turning to walk to my car. The hot winds coming down from the north between the buildings felt just like the blast of hot air you get when you open your oven door.

There's a kind of joke here in Canada about -40 not being cold on the prairies because it's "a dry cold". It's the same as the heat. +40 in Adelaide or Perth is like sitting in the middle of the Gobi desert. Hot, dry and uncomfortable
 


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