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chaval Sep 6th 2005 6:10 pm

Visa refused after granted ?
 
Hi All...just a quickie..I was driving to the DIY shop early today with my wife when some f**king chavs drove up by us and hurled and egg at the car...W**kers. Anyway I was about to drive after em and wang my trusty 7 iron round their heads and smash up there sh*te corsa when it occured to me, that if I did and got arrested etc would i have declare it having already been granted my visa and but not already validated it and if so could i have my visa app overturned ?

I guess i know the answer and yea i have calmed down now, but belive u me i was fuming at the time.

Just wanted share that with you all.

Cheers

C :mad:

Storini Sep 6th 2005 6:16 pm

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Sounds like you're getting into the spirit of Ozzie hoon driving there... :)

pompeywill Sep 6th 2005 6:18 pm

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Originally Posted by chaval
Hi All...just a quickie..I was driving to the DIY shop early today with my wife when some f**king chavs drove up by us and hurled and egg at the car...W**kers. Anyway I was about to drive after em and wang my trusty 7 iron round their heads and smash up there sh*te corsa when it occured to me, that if I did and got arrested etc would i have declare it having already been granted my visa and but not already validated it and if so could i have my visa app overturned ?

I guess i know the answer and yea i have calmed down now, but belive u me i was fuming at the time.

Just wanted share that with you all.

Cheers

C :mad:

Last friday someone I know caught 2 lads breaking into his van so he grabbed hold of them and dragged them into his house, then called the police.

Can anyone guess what happened when the police arrived??

robos Sep 6th 2005 6:19 pm

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Originally Posted by chaval
Hi All...just a quickie..I was driving to the DIY shop early today with my wife when some f**king chavs drove up by us and hurled and egg at the car...W**kers. Anyway I was about to drive after em and wang my trusty 7 iron round their heads and smash up there sh*te corsa when it occured to me, that if I did and got arrested etc would i have declare it having already been granted my visa and but not already validated it and if so could i have my visa app overturned ?

I guess i know the answer and yea i have calmed down now, but belive u me i was fuming at the time.

Just wanted share that with you all.

Cheers

C :mad:



cant answer that for you but all i no is nothing is worth putting a whole new life for
i no what you mean i would of felt the same too infact i would of drove after them because i tend to take action first then think later
keep your cool remember your new life

jan & gaz xx :beer:

chaval Sep 6th 2005 6:22 pm

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Originally Posted by pompeywill
Last friday someone I know caught 2 lads breaking into his van so he grabbed hold of them and dragged them into his house, then called the police.

Can anyone guess what happened when the police arrived??

hmmm..charged him with:

assault - as he might have put them in fear of pending harm
battery - as he touched them without their consent
kidnapping - holding them against their will

I know...the laws worse than George W Bush

chaval Sep 6th 2005 6:26 pm

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Originally Posted by robos
cant answer that for you but all i no is nothing is worth putting a whole new life for
i no what you mean i would of felt the same too infact i would of drove after them because i tend to take action first then think later
keep your cool remember your new life

jan & gaz xx :beer:

I know mate...funny really cos they were laughing an i thought...laugh all u like sonny jim cos where we're off to u aint got a chance of getting in. chav scum !!

anyway off to the pub to gloat abit more about our new life...

Laters

C :) bit happier now...

Bradley7 Sep 6th 2005 7:19 pm

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Originally Posted by chaval
Hi All...just a quickie..I was driving to the DIY shop early today with my wife when some f**king chavs drove up by us and hurled and egg at the car...W**kers. Anyway I was about to drive after em and wang my trusty 7 iron round their heads and smash up there sh*te corsa when it occured to me, that if I did and got arrested etc would i have declare it having already been granted my visa and but not already validated it and if so could i have my visa app overturned ?

I guess i know the answer and yea i have calmed down now, but belive u me i was fuming at the time.

Just wanted share that with you all.

Cheers

C :mad:

Well you could have ended up inside on GBH for quite a while and not been able to validate your visa so yes you could have lost it then when you reapplied you could have been refused as having a criminal record! But stay cool and calm only kids having a laugh, no harm done, or just make note of their reg no and report them to the Police :)

BESWETAJ Sep 6th 2005 7:35 pm

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Originally Posted by chaval
Hi All...just a quickie..I was driving to the DIY shop early today with my wife when some f**king chavs drove up by us and hurled and egg at the car...W**kers. Anyway I was about to drive after em and wang my trusty 7 iron round their heads and smash up there sh*te corsa when it occured to me, that if I did and got arrested etc would i have declare it having already been granted my visa and but not already validated it and if so could i have my visa app overturned ?

I guess i know the answer and yea i have calmed down now, but belive u me i was fuming at the time.

Just wanted share that with you all.

Cheers

C :mad:

Blimey mate get things into perspective !!! It was an EGG ! Did it hurt you !!! Doesn't sound like you are calm to me, plenty of use with the old expletives - here's the question is Australia ready for you !!!

The Poet

logan Sep 6th 2005 9:55 pm

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Originally Posted by BESWETAJ
Blimey mate get things into perspective !!! It was an EGG ! Did it hurt you !!! Doesn't sound like you are calm to me, plenty of use with the old expletives - here's the question is Australia ready for you !!!

The Poet


:D :D

aussie73 Sep 6th 2005 10:20 pm

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Originally Posted by BESWETAJ
Blimey mate get things into perspective !!! It was an EGG ! Did it hurt you !!! Doesn't sound like you are calm to me, plenty of use with the old expletives - here's the question is Australia ready for you !!!

The Poet

It was only an egg they threw at your car, what harm can it do to your car? If it was a brick or a rock l would understand why you would want to beat them up.

banjo Sep 6th 2005 10:46 pm

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I can't believe the last 3 posters who have said 'it's only an egg.' !! SO what?! It doesn't matter what was thrown at the car.....it was something. It wasn't their property. Just having a laugh? Please. How pathetic. If any of you have kids then I pity the local community you are raising them into.
Some of us are trying to raise children to have respect for other people and their property and people like you are undermining that.

I for one think it is deplorable and I would most certainly have taken the reg number and reported it. OP.....two wrongs don't make a right.....

rant over

kevinm Sep 6th 2005 10:59 pm

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Originally Posted by banjo
I can't believe the last 3 posters who have said 'it's only an egg.' !! SO what?! It doesn't matter what was thrown at the car.....it was something. It wasn't their property. Just having a laugh? Please. How pathetic. If any of you have kids then I pity the local community you are raising them into.
Some of us are trying to raise children to have respect for other people and their property and people like you are undermining that.

I for one think it is deplorable and I would most certainly have taken the reg number and reported it. OP.....two wrongs don't make a right.....

rant over

I agree with you banjo, what difference what was thrown. (dont you think a egg smashing on a windscreen of a car could cause a accident ?)If they were driving means they were not kids. This is just something we have to accept these days as kids seem to have little respect.
Im saying this because 2 days last week I had a different tyre let down at work. Is there such a thing as a 'chav' in Australia ?

logan Sep 7th 2005 5:57 am

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Originally Posted by banjo
I can't believe the last 3 posters who have said 'it's only an egg.' !! SO what?! It doesn't matter what was thrown at the car.....it was something. It wasn't their property. Just having a laugh? Please. How pathetic. If any of you have kids then I pity the local community you are raising them into.
Some of us are trying to raise children to have respect for other people and their property and people like you are undermining that.

I for one think it is deplorable and I would most certainly have taken the reg number and reported it. OP.....two wrongs don't make a right.....

rant over

I don't think the other posters condoned what the 'chavs' did, they just didn't agree with his knee-jerk reaction to the incident ;)

Timber Floor Au Sep 7th 2005 6:03 am

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Originally Posted by chaval
some f**king chavs drove up by us and hurled and egg at the car...W**kers. :

Wot is a CHAV !?

woodyinoz Sep 7th 2005 6:20 am

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Originally Posted by banjo
I can't believe the last 3 posters who have said 'it's only an egg.' !! SO what?! It doesn't matter what was thrown at the car.....it was something. It wasn't their property. Just having a laugh? Please. How pathetic. If any of you have kids then I pity the local community you are raising them into.
Some of us are trying to raise children to have respect for other people and their property and people like you are undermining that.

I for one think it is deplorable and I would most certainly have taken the reg number and reported it. OP.....two wrongs don't make a right.....

rant over

Quite well said.
I hope that you didn't have kids in the car. Did anything provoke them.
My Dad warned us that the UK has got worse in the last 2 years but for that sort of behaviour to be ACCEPTABLE is appalling.
Thank goodness that we don't have gun laws as something like that could really cause a lot of trouble.
Luckily I haven't seen road rage here but I wonder do you get BBQ rage :D

banjo Sep 7th 2005 7:02 am

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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
Wot is a CHAV !?


yes....ignorance prevails here too.....please someone explain what a 'chav' is.

pompeywill Sep 7th 2005 7:16 am

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Originally Posted by banjo
yes....ignorance prevails here too.....please someone explain what a 'chav' is.

Council House And Violent :)

pompeywill Sep 7th 2005 7:18 am

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Originally Posted by chaval
hmmm..charged him with:

assault - as he might have put them in fear of pending harm
battery - as he touched them without their consent
kidnapping - holding them against their will

I know...the laws worse than George W Bush


Close, they arrested him and tried to charge him with false imprisonment.

One of the thugs parents actually came round and apoligised.

logan Sep 7th 2005 7:45 am

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Originally Posted by banjo
yes....ignorance prevails here too.....please someone explain what a 'chav' is.


It's short for 'chaval' :D

pako Sep 7th 2005 7:55 am

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Christ Chaval where do you live, nothing like that has ever happened to me...maybe it was your driving :D

BESWETAJ Sep 8th 2005 6:39 pm

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Originally Posted by banjo
I can't believe the last 3 posters who have said 'it's only an egg.' !! SO what?! It doesn't matter what was thrown at the car.....it was something. It wasn't their property. Just having a laugh? Please. How pathetic. If any of you have kids then I pity the local community you are raising them into.
Some of us are trying to raise children to have respect for other people and their property and people like you are undermining that.

I for one think it is deplorable and I would most certainly have taken the reg number and reported it. OP.....two wrongs don't make a right.....

rant over

Soooo contradictory ! using language like Fu---ng and W--ker and other expletives does not to my mind teach children any respect at all. How can hearing your parents use such language teach respect? Or am I missing the point here. AND don' pity my community my children do have respect for others and I trust them to behave when they are out in the way I have taught them to behave - with respect. Only an egg - nodoby died !!!! Get it into perspective. The Poet :rolleyes: DOH

BESWETAJ Sep 8th 2005 6:41 pm

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Originally Posted by pompeywill
Council House And Violent :)

mmm

pompeywill Sep 8th 2005 7:48 pm

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Originally Posted by BESWETAJ
mmm

Or is it 'CHeltnem AVerage'.

banjo Sep 9th 2005 3:47 am

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Originally Posted by BESWETAJ
Soooo contradictory ! using language like Fu---ng and W--ker and other expletives does not to my mind teach children any respect at all. How can hearing your parents use such language teach respect? Or am I missing the point here. AND don' pity my community my children do have respect for others and I trust them to behave when they are out in the way I have taught them to behave - with respect. Only an egg - nodoby died !!!! Get it into perspective. The Poet :rolleyes: DOH


Contradictory....how so? I haven't used any of the language you mentioned and certainly not in front of my children. Perhaps the OP did in his original post....but that's not related to what I said. I did also say that two wrongs don't make a right. I'm not condoning the OP's reaction but I find it absolutely astounding that there are people out there that don't see what it is that is wrong with young adults (not children!) throwing things at other peoples property.

You're quite right.....nobody died - this time. What if the they had been driving along, someone swerves goes into oncoming traffic, causes an accident in which someone is seriously injured or killed? Most likely not one of the perpetrators. Would you still turn around and say...'it's only an egg!' ?

alneve2oz Sep 9th 2005 8:22 am

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Originally Posted by banjo
Contradictory....how so? I haven't used any of the language you mentioned and certainly not in front of my children. Perhaps the OP did in his original post....but that's not related to what I said. I did also say that two wrongs don't make a right. I'm not condoning the OP's reaction but I find it absolutely astounding that there are people out there that don't see what it is that is wrong with young adults (not children!) throwing things at other peoples property.

You're quite right.....nobody died - this time. What if the they had been driving along, someone swerves goes into oncoming traffic, causes an accident in which someone is seriously injured or killed? Most likely not one of the perpetrators. Would you still turn around and say...'it's only an egg!' ?

Absolutely. these "kids" have to be at least seventeen (unless they're joy riding - but hey, if they were, does it really matter? I mean they're *just* kids right? and no-one was hurt). Pur-lease, it's "kids" like these who have no respect for others and their property (and people like "Poet" who condone such actions) that make a good case for renaming this country to "Not So Great Britain". Mind you, people like the original poster who want to go and "wrap a tyre iron around their head" (this is me paraphrasing) are also at fault. As others have said. It was only an egg, and the reaction to grabbing the tyre iron is, disturbing to say the least. Basically the "kids" are at fault, :mad: the poster is at fault, :mad: and anyone who thinks that any of the actions described in this thread is "OK" is at fault.
:mad: :mad: :mad:
ok, rant over

(banjo - how many friends d'ya reckon I've made to day then!?) :confused:

Aj.

banjo Sep 9th 2005 8:25 am

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:) almost as many as me ;)

alneve2oz Sep 9th 2005 10:37 am

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Originally Posted by banjo
:) almost as many as me ;)

So at least one then? :)

here, have some Karma, and a pint :beer:

clivefawcett Sep 9th 2005 11:56 am

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Hey if things carry on the way they are going and so many of us emigrate to Australia the only people left in this country will be the criminals!! :D Mabye we could make the UK a Penial C :eek: olony

alneve2oz Sep 9th 2005 12:07 pm

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Originally Posted by clivefawcett
Hey if things carry on the way they are going and so many of us emigrate to Australia the only people left in this country will be the criminals!! :D Mabye we could make the UK a Penial C :eek: olony

Now that WOULD be karma!! Considering how UK used to treat Oz!

"What goes around, comes around"

Aj.

BESWETAJ Sep 10th 2005 2:31 pm

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Originally Posted by banjo
Contradictory....how so? I haven't used any of the language you mentioned and certainly not in front of my children. Perhaps the OP did in his original post....but that's not related to what I said. I did also say that two wrongs don't make a right. I'm not condoning the OP's reaction but I find it absolutely astounding that there are people out there that don't see what it is that is wrong with young adults (not children!) throwing things at other peoples property.

You're quite right.....nobody died - this time. What if the they had been driving along, someone swerves goes into oncoming traffic, causes an accident in which someone is seriously injured or killed? Most likely not one of the perpetrators. Would you still turn around and say...'it's only an egg!' ?


Ouch !!! Now who has egg on their face (and it HURT) so much !!!! But enough of this boring subject about Farm Fresh, Organic, Grade A's, the nitty gritty is - from the heart - no I do not condone that kind of behaviour but I could cope with it and far worse so I won't get stressed over a broken yolk and I do not live my life with "what if's" i'd never survive and I have to survive so that I can come on here and wind you up !"+ XXX My apologies if I hit a raw nerve but as this is a site for free speech thought I'd say my piece.

The Poet

Centurion Sep 10th 2005 3:59 pm

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Originally Posted by banjo
yes....ignorance prevails here too.....please someone explain what a 'chav' is.

Wikipedia has the answer to that one :)

Origin

For a full discussion of the etymologies of chav and charva, see Wiktionary.
The word chav is commonly thought to be from the mid-19th century Romany words chavi, meaning "delinquent youth", "chavo", meaning child and possibly "charver", meaning prostitute. Following an article in The Independent it has been suggested that it comes from a nickname used for people from various towns in the UK, including Chatham and Cheltenham in conjunction with the class label Average, but this is almost certainly incorrect.
It is sometimes mockingly redefined as one of several backronyms, including "Council Housed And Violent", "Council Housed And Vile", "Council House Assault & Violence", "Council House Associated Vermin", "Council House Adolescent Violence" and "Council House Adidas Victim" — although there is no etymological basis for these terms. (In the large majority of cases, suggested derivations of words from acronyms are erroneous).
It is also said that the word was used in Edinburgh, Scotland, in the early 1990s, leading to widespread bemusement on the part of Edinburghers at the sudden popularity of the term in southeast England. If this is true then this is serious evidence for a Romany origin, since Edinburgh slang includes a significant number of such words, since there used to be a large Romany encampment on the outskirts of the city. However, if it is of Latinate origin, then it may have entered English through Polari.
The slang word chav was used in Chatham during the early 1990s (and possibly earlier than this), as well as the word 'Pikey', to refer to someone who was or had a Traveller appearence. The meaning has changed over the last 10 to 15 years, especially since it has been picked up by the media. People who would have not appreciated being called Chav 10 years ago, now seem to aspire to the label. Chav is no longer synonymous with 'Pikey', but describes a separate subculture.
Faversham is also home to the 'FaverChaver' and is sometimes nicknamed 'Chaversham'.

ProofReader Sep 10th 2005 4:18 pm

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I had a raw egg thrown at my car once, by a car travelling in the opposite direction. I was doing the speed limit (60kmph) and 'assume' that the other car was too. It really scared me as I knew not what had hit me and shook like a leaf most of the way home. When I got home I found the remain of raw egg and little pieces of shell. I was astounded to see the damage caused by the shell - it had taken the paint off in several places, right down to bare, shiny metal. I was SO glad that it hadn't come through my open window.

So, for those who say, "it was just an egg", I say, unless you've experienced it, you have no idea what a nasty effect it has, both on car AND driver. :mad:



Carkedit Sep 10th 2005 5:14 pm

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Originally Posted by BESWETAJ
Blimey mate get things into perspective !!! It was an EGG ! Did it hurt you !!! Doesn't sound like you are calm to me, plenty of use with the old expletives - here's the question is Australia ready for you !!!

The Poet

Guessing you dont own a car then.. ;-)

Carkedit Sep 10th 2005 5:18 pm

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www.chavscum.co.uk :) :) :)

logan Sep 10th 2005 9:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Carkedit

Hysterical!!! I loved name your chav baby! I could offend a few people on here with the names it produced!! and I didn't know the UK had so many celebrity chavs!! :D


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