Which visa is best
Dec 14th 2005, 9:23 am
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Which visa is best
When we first started to look into emigrating we thought I was to old at 46, but we have had some great advice from people on this site, I was told that the way forward for us was an RSMS visa. We have stayed up until 2am phoning the necessary people in Australia and they said yes this was the way to go. We have been in contact with firms in Western Australia and one of them said they would sponsor us, we still have to pay the bills and everything they just guarantee me work for 2 years. This morning we had an Email saying that they were applying for an 457 visa ! Well alarm bells are going off in my head because everything I've read on this site tells me not to go on this sort of visa, it seems we are risking everything and the company are not prepared to is it me or should I worry.
Dec 14th 2005, 9:40 am
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Re: Which visa is best
Originally Posted by [email protected]
When we first started to look into emigrating we thought I was to old at 46, but we have had some great advice from people on this site, I was told that the way forward for us was an RSMS visa. We have stayed up until 2am phoning the necessary people in Australia and they said yes this was the way to go. We have been in contact with firms in Western Australia and one of them said they would sponsor us, we still have to pay the bills and everything they just guarantee me work for 2 years. This morning we had an Email saying that they were applying for an 457 visa ! Well alarm bells are going off in my head because everything I've read on this site tells me not to go on this sort of visa, it seems we are risking everything and the company are not prepared to is it me or should I worry.
Having said that, do make sure you read Jeremy's sticky thread at the top of the Oz Immigration forum and do seriously consider what you will do when the 457 runs out.
Good luck.
Dec 14th 2005, 9:52 am
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Re: Which visa is best
Originally Posted by [email protected]
When we first started to look into emigrating we thought I was to old at 46, but we have had some great advice from people on this site, I was told that the way forward for us was an RSMS visa. We have stayed up until 2am phoning the necessary people in Australia and they said yes this was the way to go. We have been in contact with firms in Western Australia and one of them said they would sponsor us, we still have to pay the bills and everything they just guarantee me work for 2 years. This morning we had an Email saying that they were applying for an 457 visa ! Well alarm bells are going off in my head because everything I've read on this site tells me not to go on this sort of visa, it seems we are risking everything and the company are not prepared to is it me or should I worry.
Where that is not possible an ENS or RSMS.
Last choice would be a 457.
As you have read there are a lot of restrictions, risks and worries on a 457.
There are a lot of people who came on a 457 and converted it successfully to a PR visa of some kind. Equally there are probably a lot who have not even though they wanted to. (I have no figures to substantiate this)
On a 457 you basically have no rights other than to pay full tax and higher costs for education. That maybe an over simplification but aint far off the truth.
Like you I was overage.
I came on a 457 and converted it to an RSMS which is what I hold now.
I only came on the 457 having what was in my opinion as good a guarantee as I could hope to get that the sponsor would support me in the RSMS quest.
The 457 served it's purpose but I hated being on it. You cannot truly feel confortable whilst on it.
An RSMS generally takes no longer to obtain than the 457. Have you gone back to them to clarify that it was the RSMS you were looking for ? May be a simple misunderstanding.
If they say it is a 457 you need the guarantees of following through with an RSMS later. In my opinion it would be better to offer to pay for the RSMS rather than go on a 457.
Sorry to sound so pessimstic but make sure you know what you are getting into.
Good luck.
Dec 14th 2005, 9:54 am
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Re: Which visa is best
Originally Posted by Bix
Sorry to sound so pessimstic but make sure you know what you are getting into.
Dec 14th 2005, 9:57 am
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Re: Which visa is best
Originally Posted by wmoore
From the lion's mouth
I was typing my reply while you posted.
You got it spot on though.
If it's the only way.....................but what comes next?
Dec 14th 2005, 10:05 am
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Re: Which visa is best
Originally Posted by Bix
Mate, I would always advise a person to get a PR visa first and foremost.
Where that is not possible an ENS or RSMS.
Last choice would be a 457.
As you have read there are a lot of restrictions, risks and worries on a 457.
There are a lot of people who came on a 457 and converted it successfully to a PR visa of some kind. Equally there are probably a lot who have not even though they wanted to. (I have no figures to substantiate this)
On a 457 you basically have no rights other than to pay full tax and higher costs for education. That maybe an over simplification but aint far off the truth.
Like you I was overage.
I came on a 457 and converted it to an RSMS which is what I hold now.
I only came on the 457 having what was in my opinion as good a guarantee as I could hope to get that the sponsor would support me in the RSMS quest.
The 457 served it's purpose but I hated being on it. You cannot truly feel confortable whilst on it.
An RSMS generally takes no longer to obtain than the 457. Have you gone back to them to clarify that it was the RSMS you were looking for ? May be a simple misunderstanding.
If they say it is a 457 you need the guarantees of following through with an RSMS later. In my opinion it would be better to offer to pay for the RSMS rather than go on a 457.
Sorry to sound so pessimstic but make sure you know what you are getting into.
Good luck.
Where that is not possible an ENS or RSMS.
Last choice would be a 457.
As you have read there are a lot of restrictions, risks and worries on a 457.
There are a lot of people who came on a 457 and converted it successfully to a PR visa of some kind. Equally there are probably a lot who have not even though they wanted to. (I have no figures to substantiate this)
On a 457 you basically have no rights other than to pay full tax and higher costs for education. That maybe an over simplification but aint far off the truth.
Like you I was overage.
I came on a 457 and converted it to an RSMS which is what I hold now.
I only came on the 457 having what was in my opinion as good a guarantee as I could hope to get that the sponsor would support me in the RSMS quest.
The 457 served it's purpose but I hated being on it. You cannot truly feel confortable whilst on it.
An RSMS generally takes no longer to obtain than the 457. Have you gone back to them to clarify that it was the RSMS you were looking for ? May be a simple misunderstanding.
If they say it is a 457 you need the guarantees of following through with an RSMS later. In my opinion it would be better to offer to pay for the RSMS rather than go on a 457.
Sorry to sound so pessimstic but make sure you know what you are getting into.
Good luck.
Sound advice from one who knows. Consult an agent mate if you haven't already. It's all well and good doing it DIY if it's a straightforward case but when it's a bit iffy - best to get good and professional advice.
Dec 14th 2005, 10:10 am
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Re: Which visa is best
Cheers lads I cant see us going out on a 457, it may sound petty but we seem to be the only ones willing to take the gamble and the company isn't. I know it can't be easy for them hiring someone you never met other than spoken too on the phone but it's hard for family's aswel.
Dec 14th 2005, 10:13 am
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Re: Which visa is best
Originally Posted by [email protected]
Cheers lads I cant see us going out on a 457, it may sound petty but we seem to be the only ones willing to take the gamble and the company isn't. I know it can't be easy for them hiring someone you never met other than spoken too on the phone but it's hard for family's aswel.
Dec 14th 2005, 11:13 am
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Re: Which visa is best
It is probably worthwhile highlighting to the prospective employer that there are obligations as a 457-visa sponsor that don't pertain under the RSMS, including the requirement to make good any claims on Medicare that you or your family might have as 457-visaholders (subject to insurance arrangements and any Reciprocal Health Care Agreement arrangements that might be available) ...
Best regards.
Best regards.
