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goppie Apr 18th 2006 7:15 pm

Vegertarians
 
Hi any vegetarians out there with information on good places to eat in Brisbane or surrounds

JaneandJim Apr 18th 2006 8:25 pm

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by goppie
Hi any vegetarians out there with information on good places to eat in Brisbane or surrounds

Hi,

It depends on how strict a vegetarian you are. I don't eat anything that came from a dead animal and it is almost impossible for us to eat out. It is, apparantly, not illegal here for a restaurant to state that food is vegetarian when really it just doesn't have lumps of meat in it.

There are a few studenty type places that are completely vegetarian. The Forest Lounge in West End is nice but there's only so many times you can eat burgers! Indonesian restaurants are a good bet as the staff tend to be vegetarian themselves. Jakarta Indonesian in New Farm is very good as is the Bali Grill in Rosalie.

If you are strict, then you have to check ingredients in the supermarket. Animal byproducts turn up in lots of things.

Jane :(

saraliz Apr 18th 2006 10:33 pm

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by JaneandJim
If you are strict, then you have to check ingredients in the supermarket. Animal byproducts turn up in lots of things.

Agreed. Lots of brands of ice cream (gelatine), most single/double/soured creams (gelatine), frozen chips (beef tallow), most cheeses (animal rennet), some brands of pasta sauce (beef stock), etc. etc. :mad:

melaniee Apr 19th 2006 1:04 am

Re: Vegertarians
 
Try being a vegetarian in Perth-impossible to eat out also !


Originally Posted by JaneandJim
Hi,

It depends on how strict a vegetarian you are. I don't eat anything that came from a dead animal and it is almost impossible for us to eat out. It is, apparantly, not illegal here for a restaurant to state that food is vegetarian when really it just doesn't have lumps of meat in it.

There are a few studenty type places that are completely vegetarian. The Forest Lounge in West End is nice but there's only so many times you can eat burgers! Indonesian restaurants are a good bet as the staff tend to be vegetarian themselves. Jakarta Indonesian in New Farm is very good as is the Bali Grill in Rosalie.

If you are strict, then you have to check ingredients in the supermarket. Animal byproducts turn up in lots of things.

Jane :(


kiwichild Apr 19th 2006 1:23 am

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by melaniee
Try being a vegetarian in Perth-impossible to eat out also !

There is the low cost hare krishna place in william st northbridge, and there is a vegetarian indian restaurant in 'the esplanade' near the bottom of william st (near busport). Just two I can think of and I'm not vegetarian!

kiwichild Apr 19th 2006 1:25 am

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by saraliz
Agreed. frozen chips (beef tallow)

Most frozen chips sold in supermarkets do not use beef tallow. I suggest you read the labels. It's the cheaper ones that use this product.

eatstatic Apr 19th 2006 2:17 am

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by kiwichild
Most frozen chips sold in supermarkets do not use beef tallow. I suggest you read the labels. It's the cheaper ones that use this product.


Thats simply not true, for instance birds eye frozon chips use beef tallow, to get the vegetarian friendly chips you have to purchase birds eye "canola" chips. As for hash browns, waffles, etc all brands seem to use beef fat in them.

Australia is not vegetarian friendly in the slightest, I found eating out a nightmare all over the country, the hassle is so immense I do not know why strict vegetarians would contemplate Oz for anything more than a few weeks holiday.

BTW I am a strict vegetarian, the pure grief of simply findiing suitable food was one of the myriad of reasons I left backward Oz.

Ozzidoc Apr 19th 2006 4:18 am

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by JaneandJim
Hi,

It depends on how strict a vegetarian you are. I don't eat anything that came from a dead animal and it is almost impossible for us to eat out. It is, apparantly, not illegal here for a restaurant to state that food is vegetarian when really it just doesn't have lumps of meat in it.

There are a few studenty type places that are completely vegetarian. The Forest Lounge in West End is nice but there's only so many times you can eat burgers! Indonesian restaurants are a good bet as the staff tend to be vegetarian themselves. Jakarta Indonesian in New Farm is very good as is the Bali Grill in Rosalie.

If you are strict, then you have to check ingredients in the supermarket. Animal byproducts turn up in lots of things.

Jane :(


Hi Jane and Goppi

I'm sorry that you are having difficulties finding yummy vegetarian food.....

I grew up in Oz. From early days at school, we were taught that there is a difference between vegetarian and vegan.

So, it seems that there is a cultural difference between Australia and some other places - growing up, a vegetarian was someone who didnt eat red meat (the "lumps"), a vegan was someone who didnt eat any animal products whatsoever. There were also names for those who ate dairy and eggs - I think lacto-ovo vegetarian, and fish.

No wonder then that you dont feel that the vegetarian food is actually vegetarian - this means different things in different countries.

eatstatic Apr 19th 2006 5:38 am

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by Ozzidoc
Hi Jane and Goppi

I'm sorry that you are having difficulties finding yummy vegetarian food.....

I grew up in Oz. From early days at school, we were taught that there is a difference between vegetarian and vegan.

So, it seems that there is a cultural difference between Australia and some other places - growing up, a vegetarian was someone who didnt eat red meat (the "lumps"), a vegan was someone who didnt eat any animal products whatsoever. There were also names for those who ate dairy and eggs - I think lacto-ovo vegetarian, and fish.

No wonder then that you dont feel that the vegetarian food is actually vegetarian - this means different things in different countries.


Sorry but thats a crock of shit.

I have many vegetarian friends from Oz, from Sydney and Melbourne, they consuider that being a vegetarian means eating no by products of the meat slaughter process, that includes fish BTW.

Being a vegan means to eat no animal related produce whatsoever, hard in the UK, but impossible in oz (just).

Whatever way you dress it, Oz is very poor at providing true vegetarian options at its restaurants, the supermarkets are just as bad and unless you are in a hippy enclave such as Newtown, Byron or Katoomba you will find basically nothing that you can eat.

My wifes an Aussie and although she is a meat eater she knows that a vegetarian eats no dead animal products, not just the visible "lumpy bits".

eatstatic Apr 19th 2006 6:31 am

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by Ozzidoc
Hi Jane and Goppi

I'm sorry that you are having difficulties finding yummy vegetarian food.....

I grew up in Oz. From early days at school, we were taught that there is a difference between vegetarian and vegan.

So, it seems that there is a cultural difference between Australia and some other places - growing up, a vegetarian was someone who didnt eat red meat (the "lumps"), a vegan was someone who didnt eat any animal products whatsoever. There were also names for those who ate dairy and eggs - I think lacto-ovo vegetarian, and fish.

No wonder then that you dont feel that the vegetarian food is actually vegetarian - this means different things in different countries.

Ok sorry to do this, but I really hate ignorance and it being spread as fact on this subject, this is quoted from a very reputatble Australian vegetarian website

http://www.veg-soc.org/html/about.html


Our definition of a vegetarian is a person who eats foods which are free from any ingredients derived from the slaughter of animals (including chicken and fish). While other animal products not directly involving slaughter may be used, we encourage people to seek humane alternatives such as free range eggs and animal rennet-free cheeses. We also encourage the use of non-animal alternatives such as soya and rice milks, non-dairy spreads, ice cream alternatives, and so on.

Ozzidoc Apr 19th 2006 12:28 pm

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by eatstatic
Sorry but thats a crock of shit.

I have many vegetarian friends from Oz, from Sydney and Melbourne, they consuider that being a vegetarian means eating no by products of the meat slaughter process, that includes fish BTW.

Being a vegan means to eat no animal related produce whatsoever, hard in the UK, but impossible in oz (just).

Whatever way you dress it, Oz is very poor at providing true vegetarian options at its restaurants, the supermarkets are just as bad and unless you are in a hippy enclave such as Newtown, Byron or Katoomba you will find basically nothing that you can eat.

My wifes an Aussie and although she is a meat eater she knows that a vegetarian eats no dead animal products, not just the visible "lumpy bits".

I am sorry that you view my education as a crock of xxxx.

Things may have changed, but that's the way it was growing up in Victoria 20 - 30 years ago in both primary and high school. In fact of course things change - that's the way of the world.

Australia is a large place, and obviously different people receive different educational and cultural experiences both within and outside formal education.

MartinLuther Apr 19th 2006 12:41 pm

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by eatstatic
Ok sorry to do this, but I really hate ignorance and it being spread as fact on this subject, this is quoted from a very reputatble Australian vegetarian website

http://www.veg-soc.org/html/about.html


Our definition of a vegetarian is a person who eats foods which are free from any ingredients derived from the slaughter of animals (including chicken and fish). While other animal products not directly involving slaughter may be used, we encourage people to seek humane alternatives such as free range eggs and animal rennet-free cheeses. We also encourage the use of non-animal alternatives such as soya and rice milks, non-dairy spreads, ice cream alternatives, and so on.

Are most beers and wines also excluded from vegetarian diets because of Isinglass Finings?

JackTheLad Apr 19th 2006 1:33 pm

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by eatstatic
BTW I am a strict vegetarian, the pure grief of simply findiing suitable food was one of the myriad of reasons I left backward Oz.

Just curious - why are you a strick vegetarian? And how strict are you?

Mrs JTL

moneypenny20 Apr 19th 2006 1:44 pm

Re: Vegertarians
 
Just a quick query, why the hell would anyone buy frozen chips in the first place :confused:

JaneandJim Apr 19th 2006 1:58 pm

Re: Vegertarians
 

Originally Posted by MartinLuther
Are most beers and wines also excluded from vegetarian diets because of Isinglass Finings?

Yep, and Guinness. :(

A vegetarian is somebody who doesn't eat anything derived from a dead animal. A vegan is somebody who doesn't eat anything derived from or produced by an animal. Surely that definition should be the same the world over? :confused:

Jane


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