Unemployment on the rise again.
 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14486128

Unfortunately with the mining sector being the only part of the economy booming and it only accounting for around 10% overall the majority of employers are finding times very tough and this is shown in the recent rise in unemployment.

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The figures are so scewed in Oz, if you pop out for one hour a week in Oz, and run a mop over the floor of our local disco, then you are classed as employed..................;)

Finding a decent paying long term permy job in Oz. Well rock'in horse sh!t if you do not have a profession of some sort wich is recognised in Oz.

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They could use someone with good mop skills in London at the mo. :thumbup:

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We don't exactly have a recruitment freeze at the moment, but we are certainly under pressure not to replace any leavers, and approval has to be obtained at two levels above (usually your boss is sufficient).

So there is no question in my mind that unemployment will continue to rise.

(I work for a relatively successful FMCG company but profits are down and financial pressures are much higher than even two years ago).

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I saw BBC and thought you were actually going to post something negative about the UK. :rofl:

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needed them in Brisbane not long ago

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True. Maybe that was artificially keeping the unemployment figures down. :thumbup:

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No need, there are plenty of others more than happy to do that.

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suprisingly the uk unemployment rate is 7.7% with aus being 5.1% I would have expected the uk to be much higher but I guess not

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You would not be alone in that misconception.

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Unemployment percentages are a funny one. 3-3.5% is considered to be full employment as there are a certain % of people who are unemployable. 10% is considered to be horrific - yet 90% of people still have a job of sorts. So 5% is considered to be low, and 8% is therefore pretty high. 2-3% of the workforce of a 60m nation like the UK is still a hell of a lot of people. Consider this - in the great depression, some countries (like Australia) had 25% unemployment, yet 75% were still working and the world nearly fell apart.

It's sometimes hard to get your head around.

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I find myself strangely agreeing with much of what you said but choosing not to quote you :lol:
There seems to be so little between the 7.7 in the UK and the 5.1 here that's it's hardly worth worrying about but some would have us believe that one country is paradise for work and the other is almost impossible to find work when neither is correct. In both countries over 90% are working/.

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I don't believe this to be the case. In both countries the figures are horrifically manipulated to suit the government agendas, They don't count people with disabilities who want to work or people not on benefits for whatever reason or people who only work 1 hour a week when they want a full time job.

The unemployment figures are government statistics and as such should be assumed to be lies, just like the inflation figures.

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No quote, no discussion. Sorry.

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I hear what you are saying but do you really know anyone who is genuinely unemployed? I don't know anyone, apart from my wife and she's not looking and has not worked since 2003.

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Well yes this is correct of course but my point was that in both countries the vast majority are working.

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No I don't but I've heard tales of people struggling to get work, in many different industries. I believe the real un(der)employment figure is much higher than stated, just like inflation.

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I don't personally know anyone who is unemployed in either country to be honest. I can't for 1 second take the inflation rate as serious having seen how everything has risen so sharply.

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Skills are the issues. I have had a hell of a time trying to fill three positions in our company. One is still open as despite advertising State wide on a range of mediums, I haven't had a CV from a single person worth even spending the time to interview.

The other two I have filled, but only had one suitable candidate for each position.

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Same for us, very hard to find good people.

It's holding our project back.

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I'm good at copying and pasting - any positions available?

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Yes, me. Got 'let go' last week. Absolutely **** all out there that I could even begin to apply for.

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That's bullshit, sorry to hear that.

Shit, I have such a cushy job but I have nightmares about what I'd do if I ever got "let go".

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So did I. Still am funnily enough. Hey, it's not all bad, did my tax return the other day, got about 1,600 coming back.

At least the sun's shining. ;)

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Unemployed?

Monneypenny20
Sillyoldbag
Turban Explorer
Deadvim

just a few that come to mind.........but they are just internet personas.

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Bugger, sorry to hear that. I think in the current climate we will be seeing many more.

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My BIL in the UK has just been told he will finish working at Christmas. He works for the company who maintain all the railway lines in the UK. They are cutting back on maintenance crews this year. My brother works for Landrover as a mechanic. 2 mechanics have been let go this year and he has been told to keep his ears out and if he gets a better offer then give it serious thought. My father and step mother worked for the MOD until 2 year ago and former colleagues are being made redundant, the MOD are making huge cuts.

Sadly it happening the world over.

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that is average % given the South figures. Yorkshire has got 9% and North west/ east/ scotland are up at 11%

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5.1% for australia

i thought the idea would be that if your going to make figures up, at least make them realistic ?

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Absolutly spot on. If one half of a couple finds themself out of work and their partner earns more than $550 a week , the other half can't claim centerlink benefits. This means no benefits which means not captured as unemployed which means they are not in the unemployment stats:thumbdown:

The chances of a partner of an unemployed person being on $550 week is high so that's a LOT of unemployed people not being accounted for in the stats.

Don't believe everything you read from governments:sneaky:

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And me. got made redundant week before Xmas and took months to find work and I'm skilled and I know others in same line of work also out of work and equally found it hard despite being highly skilled.

Now working thank God - but feel for people out of work cos it's shite out there unless you're in engineering / mining / construction:thumbdown:

Good luck to yous guys who are looking:fingerscrossed:

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Murphys Law has struck me as well. Just getting over our special friday meeting news (It probably does contain a silver lining) No more Night Shift for mail sorting at Aus post. Means I have to transfer within the system,. or get a package. So I may become one of the first posties on an Electric Bike, either that or Parcel Area. I knew they wouldn't pay 30pct penalties for much longer. All over by the end of the financial year... June 2012. At least they are obliged to offer me at least 2 jobs within post before a package.


Would be great normally except I'm in the middle of a very expensive reno. Bang straight out of my Comfort zone. I've been moaning about night shift for years so guess I wont have to soon. LOL. Damn goodbye 2nd easiest job I've ever had.... 7 mins up the road and Ipod listening to music all night...all with the backdrop of comedic acts by my workmates every night.

Dont know whether to be worried or glad.

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Yes I don't think many people actually out there in the real world believe those numbers for a second.

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Nope, you just made that up.

The unemployment rate in Scotland is bang on the UK average in the 7s%

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I thought those figures seemed high. I know in the SW it is (officially) 4 or 5%.

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It may be true for some of those regions, but certainly isn't for Scotland.

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My OH left Borders a year ago.

They have casual work but finding something more like the role they left is proving impossible. Unless you fancy store manager in the $30k's - the casual job pays better.

But, retail - it's ******!

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I'm reminded of one particular troll on another forum who spends his time telling all and sundry how our economy is booming and everyone has a great job and a swimming pool etc. He doesn't actually live here though :D
Yes retail is in a very bad way indeed.

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Is that where Mohogony went?

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I'm not sure who that is but I assume he/she was the same ? You were often left wondering where this mythical land was :D