Originally Posted by new-leaf (Post 10654883)

At the University where I work, international students are not heavily marked on there ability to use English, if you can understand the paper, then its acceptable.

This ruling has been handed down due to the high population of international students and by 2015 they will out number native students. There was a situation in 2011, international students were constantly marked down for poor English and grammar, this translated into less international students applying for 2012 and as such the ruling was introduced.



Most of the students I've noticed moving up, generally suffer from pretty huge shock when they hit University level education, they have been helped and hand held so much during there previous education that when they have to do things for them selves, they really struggle and are constantly asking for "exam questions" and/or help that I can not provide them.

Originally Posted by new-leaf (Post 10654883)

At the University where I work, international students are not heavily marked on there ability to use English

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 10654924)

Good job you are not either:rofl:

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10654916)

Im intrigued by the classes of 40-50 kids to be honest. There are 20 odd in our boys classes. I cant imagine 40 or 50 in a class would be common would it?

Originally Posted by new-leaf (Post 10654932)

:rofl:

This is the internet, I couldn't careless :)

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 10654934)

Did you mean 'care less' or 'careless'?:rofl:

Originally Posted by new-leaf (Post 10654883)

At the University where I work, international students are not heavily marked on there ability to use English, if you can understand the paper, then its acceptable.

This ruling has been handed down due to the high population of international students and by 2015 they will out number native students. There was a situation in 2011, international students were constantly marked down for poor English and grammar, this translated into less international students applying for 2012 and as such the ruling was introduced.

We are also asked to not strictly enforce English spelling and grammar during marking of 1st-3rd year degree students, so most of the time we end up with an essay that in my opinion is terrible English, but we can't mark them down for it.

For example I had a young girl who had just completed her 2nd year experiment. When I was marking it, she had spelled the title wrong, couldn't spell Psychology (Among others), was in a completely awful format and suggested that a flaw in her experiment was people were sat on swivel chairs and it could have distracted them during the experiment.

Most of the students I've noticed moving up, generally suffer from pretty huge shock when they hit University level education, they have been helped and hand held so much during there previous education that when they have to do things for them selves, they really struggle and are constantly asking for "exam questions" and/or help that I can not provide them.

This is a University that requires 4 A's at A-Level and in the top 15 UK wide.

Again this is my observation of the past 3 years of teaching and marking.

Originally Posted by new-leaf (Post 10654932)

:rofl:

This is the internet, I couldn't careless :)

Originally Posted by Almo (Post 10655082)

I often write carelessly on the internet; I don't pay too much attention to structuring sentences as carefully as I might in a more formal setting. To me, though, there's a big difference between choosing to write more elegantly in a particular register and mixing up 'there' and 'their'.

I wouldn't usually pick someone up about it on an internet forum, but if you're lamenting the standard of English at your university... :p

Originally Posted by new-leaf (Post 10655155)

Christ, I had no idea this was a grammar and spelling test.

Next time I'll make sure I'm double spacing and correctly formatting my sentences.

The pedantry going on is ludicrous. Correcting peoples grammar and spelling is generally a sign that you have nothing left to contribute to a discussion.

Originally Posted by new-leaf (Post 10655155)

Christ, I had no idea this was a grammar and spelling test.

Next time I'll make sure I'm double spacing and correctly formatting my sentences.

The pedantry going on is ludicrous. Correcting peoples grammar and spelling is generally a sign that you have nothing left to contribute to a discussion.

Originally Posted by new-leaf (Post 10654933)

I've just been in contact with a school not far from me this morning who have three year 4 classes of 42 children.

Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 10655590)

Well I have no doubt they exist, our boys were in a class of close to 50 in Brisbane, they had 2 teachers in the class but it was often chaos because of the numbers and having 2 teachers talking over eachother with the 2 groups. I much prefer the small classes.

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 10656141)

I think it's a bit sh*t to be too pedantic about spelling on an internet forum.


I would look at the overall text to gauge someone's literacy. I think it's clear that university standards are in decline.

In any case, angry people on the internet tend to have worn keyboards and space bars...:p