If all Australia's new immigrants are skilled /proffesionals won't this create a sort of two tier system where all the middle class are foreigners. This must cause problems in the future...

CORKER

maybe, does it matter though ?

It does if you are living there when the s£@t hits the fan...
CORKER

ah, I see, good point, apologies for my earlier (foolish) post

If the training systems aren't improved for the young locals then yes it will cause problems.

Australia also lets in unskilled labour on a temporary basis to do the menial jobs that they can't fill with Aussies like mining.

Cant see it's much different from the UK, we are always "importing" skilled workers (nurses etc) from other countries....

I dare you to tell a miner to his face that his job is 'menial'

Cheers,
JTL

I'm from a family of miners in south wales, having been down the pit with my father when I small I can tell you that its an awful job, dangerous and extremely hard work. You suffer socially, physically and mentally. It can destroy families. Thankfully open mining is now in place so miners no longer have to work in such terrible conditions, but its by no means menial! I wouldn't do it, and my two boys certainly won't be doing it either!

I do see what you mean by the different classes in oz tho, and yes it will get worst unless money is ploughed into the oz education system to improve the prospect for the kids out there.

Sorry Worsel, but I was thinking the exact same thing as JTL.

On which visa?

I think over the last decade, wealth has created a whole new class system. For example, those that have made £££ or $$$ on the housing booms.

The amount of times I am having a good evening out then somebody starts this conversation of how much their house has increased in price in the last 3 seconds drive me nuts.

It is boring as hell and has become an national obsession in Oz/UK. I remember a time when talking about money was classed as tacky.

On that, I think this is certainly dividing countries with the have and have nots, this can only lead to problems in the future I imagine.

I am no expert, just observations.

M

I must be old fashioned then, I still think its tacky.

Just to qualify that, discussing possible wages, or average increase in house values is ok. But if someone wants to tell me their house has gone up $50,000. Thats bad form. Are they hoping I'm going to tell them my financial situation?

General finance discussion is ok, but people blurting out how much they earn or how much money they have made is still tacky, at least to me .

Cheers,
JTL

Nice to hear from a fellow old fashioned person.

M

You could always ask them to lend you a couple hundred bucks, seeing as they are so flush Or buy a bottle of champaigne, as they have had a windfall,

That would be a particualy Sarf london reaction I reckon