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Try and change your life before emmigrating to OZ?
I just thought that I would post the following:
My husband worked for the same firm in the UK for 12 years. The money was good but he was fed up and bored. I owned a horse and worked part time hours to pay for him (the horse, not hubby!) This meant we were always struggling for money because everyone knows that the word 'poverty' means owning a horse. Instead of taking a different direction in our lives in the UK like.... Selling the horse and spending more time with my family than at the stables!! (:eek: ). Selling the horse to be better of financially (cost around 100 pounds a week to keep ! :scared: ) Hubby should have looked for another job, maybe done a course in something (arghh loads of those here!!) taken a different direction. But no, we thought it would be easier to move to the other side of the world to change our lives!!! and now yes, we do have more time together as a family (but only due to me selling the horse) but we could have done that in the UK! Hubby has had four different jobs since being here (money issues) but has realised that all he needed to do in the Uk was apply for something else. He seemed to think it was immpossibe to change jobs after so long!? We were stuck in a rut in the UK, happy in our relationship (you will need that coming here, believe me!!) but felt we couldn't move on. How ridiculous we were and I'am happy now to admit this!!:o All I'am trying to say is anyone coming here to change your lives, just stop and think how you could change it for the better in the UK first. If that doesn't work then yes maybe give it a go. :D |
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Originally posted by janeyray
I just thought that I would post the following: My husband worked for the same firm in the UK for 12 years. The money was good but he was fed up and bored. I owned a horse and worked part time hours to pay for him (the horse, not hubby!) This meant we were always struggling for money because everyone knows that the word 'poverty' means owning a horse. Instead of taking a different direction in our lives in the UK like.... Selling the horse and spending more time with my family than at the stables!! (:eek: ). Selling the horse to be better of financially (cost around 100 pounds a week to keep ! :scared: ) Hubby should have looked for another job, maybe done a course in something (arghh loads of those here!!) taken a different direction. But no, we thought it would be easier to move to the other side of the world to change our lives!!! and now yes, we do have more time together as a family (but only due to me selling the horse) but we could have done that in the UK! Hubby has had four different jobs since being here (money issues) but has realised that all he needed to do in the Uk was apply for something else. He seemed to think it was immpossibe to change jobs after so long!? We were stuck in a rut in the UK, happy in our relationship (you will need that coming here, believe me!!) but felt we couldn't move on. How ridiculous we were and I'am happy now to admit this!!:o All I'am trying to say is anyone coming here to change your lives, just stop and think how you could change it for the better in the UK first. If that doesn't work then yes maybe give it a go. :D Oh My Goodness Gracious Me - A Blinding White Bolt From Heaven. Now Let Us Time The Thunder To Measure The Distance Twixt Reality And Perception. Just thought I'd embolden this a touch. Should be on every packet of visa application forms. |
totally agree...
have to say ..... moving to anywhere doesnt necessarily solve any problems - they just follow you |
Originally posted by jat totally agree... have to say ..... moving to anywhere doesnt necessarily solve any problems - they just follow you |
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Originally posted by janeyray We were stuck in a rut in the UK, happy in our relationship (you will need that coming here, believe me!!) but felt we couldn't move on. How ridiculous we were and I'am happy now to admit this!!:o :D One thing about coming to Australia is it makes you appreciate the benefits of living in Blighty. Good luck Jane. |
good point jane.
Maybe you are not only home sick, but horse sick too, do you still ride overhere? |
Re: Try and change your life before emmigrating to OZ?
Originally posted by janeyray I just thought that I would post the following: My husband worked for the same firm in the UK for 12 years. The money was good but he was fed up and bored. I owned a horse and worked part time hours to pay for him (the horse, not hubby!) This meant we were always struggling for money because everyone knows that the word 'poverty' means owning a horse. Instead of taking a different direction in our lives in the UK like.... Selling the horse and spending more time with my family than at the stables!! (:eek: ). Selling the horse to be better of financially (cost around 100 pounds a week to keep ! :scared: ) Hubby should have looked for another job, maybe done a course in something (arghh loads of those here!!) taken a different direction. But no, we thought it would be easier to move to the other side of the world to change our lives!!! and now yes, we do have more time together as a family (but only due to me selling the horse) but we could have done that in the UK! Hubby has had four different jobs since being here (money issues) but has realised that all he needed to do in the Uk was apply for something else. He seemed to think it was immpossibe to change jobs after so long!? We were stuck in a rut in the UK, happy in our relationship (you will need that coming here, believe me!!) but felt we couldn't move on. How ridiculous we were and I'am happy now to admit this!!:o All I'am trying to say is anyone coming here to change your lives, just stop and think how you could change it for the better in the UK first. If that doesn't work then yes maybe give it a go. :D If we'd tried to change our lives in the UK it owuld have been a lot easier.....I had a successful business, the wife earned reasonable money and we had a decent level of living.......tired of the "bleak Britain" outlook that is forced down our throats by the media, we looked to move to NZ. We researched, applied and spent 8 months gathering money by selling everything we had (sometimes too cheaply, but it was for our future). We finally made it to NZ on Oct 6th 2003, and for the first few weeks it was great. However, my wife suffered illness and we fell foul of the sudden Gen Skills law change (we gambled going out to NZ eary figuring the wife could get a job before my LTBV was processed, thus giving us PR). All this put a lot of stress on us and a "no" from the NZIS on a speed up on my business plan application put us in a bad frame of mind. Soon after, my wife wanted to give up...leaving me reeling.... As you can imagine, the arguments started (she'd pushed to get to NZ early so as to gain a job; thus my LTBV was not necessary), me blaming her for leaving the UK early, her blaming me for leaving the UK at all......(she was as in to the idea as I was prior to leaving). Anyway, fast forward.....Jan 16th we left NZ £17000 worse off (shipping, no work for 4 months etc) and separated.....who knows what will happen in the future, but it would have been a lot easier to change our situation in the UK rather than looking for the answer 12,000 miles away....one thing we did learn is that all countries have their problems...you just exchange one set for another in the new country. Shame you can't turn back time eh?...... all the best with the return, Rich. |
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Originally posted by theguitardoctor Anyway, fast forward.....Jan 16th we left NZ £17000 worse off (shipping, no work for 4 months etc) all the best with the return, Rich. Airfares, two return trips for 4 Europe-NZ GBP6000 Food, motels, living etc @ NZD1000 per week, NZD22K or GBP8000 Depreciation on car Year 1 GBP2000 Not earning money for 6 months GBPplenty Agent for Immigration GBP1500 Total at least GBP17500 in the first nearly 6 months Having said that, you could maybe cancel out some of it, eg living costs, as we'd have needed to pay for living anywhere in the world; we like foreign holidays so could maybe cancel out half the airfares as 'holidays in all but name'. We chose to not get jobs immediately and take a career break. We were wrong to use an agent for our simple app. So depending on how you look at it, not as expensive as it seems? :lecture: :D |
hi guitar doctor
sorry to hear that story - the upside will be that when you get back to the UK you will probably enjoy your life more in the UK and look at things differently.... not that helps the last year of your life.... i know people who have been in oz 20 years and are even scared to go back for a visit! couldnt live like that so glad ive made the decision even though last night i was getting a wee bit nervous about what i was going back too! but ok now :) |
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Originally posted by pleasancefamily Rich, I can well believe you with the numbers. Here's how it is for us so far (conservative) Airfares, two return trips for 4 Europe-NZ GBP6000 Food, motels, living etc @ NZD1000 per week, NZD22K or GBP8000 Depreciation on car Year 1 GBP2000 Not earning money for 6 months GBPplenty Agent for Immigration GBP1500 Total at least GBP17500 in the first nearly 6 months Having said that, you could maybe cancel out some of it, eg living costs, as we'd have needed to pay for living anywhere in the world; we like foreign holidays so could maybe cancel out half the airfares as 'holidays in all but name'. We chose to not get jobs immediately and take a career break. We were wrong to use an agent for our simple app. So depending on how you look at it, not as expensive as it seems? :lecture: :D It soon adds up Don...don't forget though, there were just the two of us + Cat......he's cost £3000 all in all. We lost £2000 on a car also and the shipping and flights added up....living costs make a bigger dent when you do not work either..sure we'd have paid them in the UK, but we would have been earning, so it would have offset the loss......neither of us did anything in NZ..I couldn't, and after the knock back from the employer (loss of job offer when GS cat was removed), my wife felt as though she didn't want to (for a while), it ate our money very quickly. We were spending $1000NZD a week in Wellington with no kids !! On another point, I thought you were going back to NZ after Europe...I onlay ask as you mention not using an agent for you app? Rich. |
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Originally posted by jat hi guitar doctor sorry to hear that story - the upside will be that when you get back to the UK you will probably enjoy your life more in the UK and look at things differently.... not that helps the last year of your life.... i know people who have been in oz 20 years and are even scared to go back for a visit! couldnt live like that so glad ive made the decision even though last night i was getting a wee bit nervous about what i was going back too! but ok now :) I will certainly stop reading newspapers and listening to the news....it certainly has a negative angle in the UK. This knocks on to a lot of people, hence the high rate of people looking to leave....IMO the UK is not so bad...certainly has a lot more upsides than people realise. It sometimes takes a move so far to make you realise you didn't have it so bad. There's definitely a lot of upsides to going back. Our situation was definitely aggravated by circumstances and my wife's sudden delusionment with NZ..some people ride over these things, whilst others are affected a lot more. Maybe we weren't as strong as a couple as I thought we were before we emigrated...such is life. Rich. |
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Originally posted by theguitardoctor On another point, I thought you were going back to NZ after Europe...I onlay ask as you mention not using an agent for you app? Rich. GBP1500 buys a lot of meals out :( |
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Originally posted by Megalania [B][SIZE=3]Originally posted by janeyray [COLOR=crimson]Just thought I'd embolden this a touch. Should be on every packet of visa application forms. OH MY GOODNESS!!! I just signed in to take a peek and was knocked off my chair!!! Good Lord!! it's bright, but is it bright enough for all to see? :scared: :D |
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Originally posted by pleasancefamily That's still the plan (ie to return to NZ after Europe)...the reference to our agent was there because it turned out to be wasted money, I could have done our app blindfold - but I didn't know that at the time I engaged the agent and at that point I hadn't found this helpful site (and sister site) :( :( :( GBP1500 buys a lot of meals out :( Ah right...now I see. Yup....reverse thing with us though..and agent may have saved our situation...however, my wife's impatience with things got us there quicker, but meant we had to come back quicker, so unless the agent had close links with a 24 hour divorce lawyer and another 24 hour "Get UR NZ Bride" agency, I don't think a lot would have been different in the long run. all the best, Rich. |
Originally posted by hevs good point jane. Maybe you are not only home sick, but horse sick too, do you still ride overhere? :eek: |
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Originally posted by theguitardoctor Anyway, fast forward.....Jan 16th we left NZ £17000 worse off (shipping, no work for 4 months etc) and separated.....who knows what will happen in the future, but it would have been a lot easier to change our situation in the UK rather than looking for the answer 12,000 miles away....one thing we did learn is that all countries have their problems...you just exchange one set for another in the new country. And £17,000 is roughly the amount if will have cost us (and I've worked since since day one) if you include the costs of going back (which is by no means certain at this moment in time). Not including of course how much more it’s going to cost to buy a house similar to the one we sold almost a year ago. And I am not including all the stuff we sold (or mostly gave away) before we left. The usual things such as white goods, TV. VCR and beds which have cost us a fortune to buy here. And the car too – sold that cheap as we tried to hang onto it until the last minute (still ended up renting one for the last two weeks). That was an Audi A4 – lovely car. I now drive around in a crappy four year old Hyundai Lantra which cost more than double I received for the Audi. Not just that but all the little things that we decided to get rid of. Subjected ourselves to getting up at six in the morning to sell it all at car boot sales. Got a pittance for most of it – especially my cherished LP record collection – OK it has been years since I played any of it – but even so… I suspected by the way people (serious record collectors I found out later) were fighting over them that I was probably selling too cheap but I just wanted to get shut. And was it all worth it? Ha bloody ha. I suppose I could write it all off as one expensive 'holiday' but for us, going back is not a pleasant option. Not much chance of getting even close to the salary I was earning (if I get a job at all). And the thought of splitting with my family and staying with parents (neither have room for all of us) until we can get things sorted, i.e. rental accommodation (more money!) does not appeal too much (had a month of it before we came out here). So, I’m still trying to make a go of it here. Wish me luck - I know I'm going to need it. And I sincerely hope things work out for you. Thomas |
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Originally posted by Thomaz And I am not including all the stuff we sold (or mostly gave away) before we left. The usual things such as white goods, TV. VCR and beds which have cost us a fortune to buy here. And the car too – sold that cheap as we tried to hang onto it until the last minute (still ended up renting one for the last two weeks). That was an Audi A4 – lovely car. I now drive around in a crappy four year old Hyundai Lantra which cost more than double I received for the Audi. Not just that but all the little things that we decided to get rid off. Subjected ourselves to getting up a six in the morning to sell it all at car boot sales. Got a pittance for most of it – especially my cherished LP record collection – OK it has been years since I played any of it – but even so… I suspected by the way people (serious record collectors I found out later) were fighting over them that I was probably selling too cheap but I just wanted to get shut. And was it all worth it? Ha bloody ha. Thomas Know what you mean about selling your stuff, we had garage sales here and people would haggle at price when you are practically giving it away! You know the ones that want to buy for $1.00 instead of $2.00 then give you a $20.00 to pay for it - arses the lot of them. Keep positive, you have LOTS of support on this site, just ask us. All the best Merlot |
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Originally posted by Merlot Keep positive, you have LOTS of support on this site, just ask us. All the best Merlot Seeing your post has just reminded me that it's time to go off-line and settle down with a glass or two of red wine. :) Cheers Mate :beer: |
I agree with what you say JaneyRay - I learnt the same thing by emigrating.
I think that no matter how many times we all say it though, you don't really understand or believe it until you learn it for yourself. I'm going to completely mangle some famous quote now, but someone somewhere said something like the purpose of 'travel is not to see foriegn lands, it is to see your own country as foriegn'. same thing goes for emigration - you don't realise what you're leaving behind until you try something else. |
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Originally posted by Thomaz Thanks for the support Merlot - I'll let you know how things go. Seeing your post has just reminded me that it's time to go off-line and settle down with a glass or two of red wine. :) Cheers Mate :beer: Best wishes Merlot |
Originally posted by jandjuk I agree with what you say JaneyRay - I learnt the same thing by emigrating. someone somewhere said something like the purpose of 'travel is not to see foriegn lands, it is to see your own country as foriegn'. same thing goes for emigration - you don't realise what you're leaving behind until you try something else. :D |
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Originally posted by Thomaz Rich, I’m so sorry to hear about your separation. Having had a nightmare time here myself I can quite easily see how that can happen – fortunately my wife and I are still together but these past five months have certainly put a strain on our marriage. And £17,000 is roughly the amount if will have cost us (and I've worked since since day one) if you include the costs of going back (which is by no means certain at this moment in time). Not including of course how much more it’s going to cost to buy a house similar to the one we sold almost a year ago. And I am not including all the stuff we sold (or mostly gave away) before we left. The usual things such as white goods, TV. VCR and beds which have cost us a fortune to buy here. And the car too – sold that cheap as we tried to hang onto it until the last minute (still ended up renting one for the last two weeks). That was an Audi A4 – lovely car. I now drive around in a crappy four year old Hyundai Lantra which cost more than double I received for the Audi. Not just that but all the little things that we decided to get rid of. Subjected ourselves to getting up at six in the morning to sell it all at car boot sales. Got a pittance for most of it – especially my cherished LP record collection – OK it has been years since I played any of it – but even so… I suspected by the way people (serious record collectors I found out later) were fighting over them that I was probably selling too cheap but I just wanted to get shut. And was it all worth it? Ha bloody ha. I suppose I could write it all off as one expensive 'holiday' but for us, going back is not a pleasant option. Not much chance of getting even close to the salary I was earning (if I get a job at all). And the thought of splitting with my family and staying with parents (neither have room for all of us) until we can get things sorted, i.e. rental accommodation (more money!) does not appeal too much (had a month of it before we came out here). So, I’m still trying to make a go of it here. Wish me luck - I know I'm going to need it. And I sincerely hope things work out for you. Thomas Just advice from my angle, but if things are ok with you and the family, then keep trying, if cracks start to show, it's as well to leave if you can live with the fact that you gave it your best shot. all the best, Rich. |
Whilst i agree on some of the comments made about sorting your life about before leaving. Some of us are/ were, in a different position. I felt i had to leave before i could sort myself out, and i was right. Everyones situation is different, so theres never one simple answer.
Best thing i ever did was leaving UK. |
Originally posted by podgypossum Whilst i agree on some of the comments made about sorting your life about before leaving. Some of us are/ were, in a different position. I felt i had to leave before i could sort myself out, and i was right. Everyones situation is different, so theres never one simple answer. Best thing i ever did was leaving UK. All I wanted to ask is there a "How to live a Perfect Life" book out there as I have realised there are no hard or fast rules about anything. I also believe that you can do almost anything when you put your mind to it. I felt I wanted to return to the UK for many years but only took the courage to bring it up with hubby last year. Best thing I did as it made me start to look forward and be happier in little old me. I stopped beign eaten up by it. This can be applied in anything in life. Sermon over Merlot :) :) |
Janeyray or is that "she of the crystal ball (s) " :D
Thats exactly what we have decided to do. My wife and I have decided to give the UK another year. We will sell our house and buy another but this time mortage free. We will go out more to parks, walking, cycling even the seaside (bit nippy but what the hell). All the things we think we want in NZ. Instead of moving 12000 miles away we will try and find that missing something here at home, with friends and family. We will go on holidays (not had 1 for 3 years) 3 or 4 times. Visit OZ,NZ ect. but do them as tourists with £££ in our pockets and enjoy what these places have to offer. Knowing that we can come back in a few months if we like. My folks have a place in France that we can visit whenever we want. Not been there yet. If after a year or so we still feel that something is missing in our lives then we're off. But we would know that we have given the UK our best shot. We will know we havent just gone to NZ upsetting ourselves and family without trying to live the dream here. Hopefully what we are looking for doesnt mean moving 12000 miles away after all. It might just mean we need to have parts of NZ (the good) in our lives which we can achieve by visiting a few times a year. Hope this hasnt depressed too many people. Jack :) |
Originally posted by Jack Daws Janeyray or is that "she of the crystal ball (s) " :D Thats exactly what we have decided to do. My wife and I have decided to give the UK another year. We will sell our house and buy another but this time mortage free. We will go out more to parks, walking, cycling even the seaside (bit nippy but what the hell). All the things we think we want in NZ. Instead of moving 12000 miles away we will try and find that missing something here at home, with friends and family. We will go on holidays (not had 1 for 3 years) 3 or 4 times. Visit OZ,NZ ect. but do them as tourists with £££ in our pockets and enjoy what these places have to offer. Knowing that we can come back in a few months if we like. My folks have a place in France that we can visit whenever we want. Not been there yet. If after a year or so we still feel that something is missing in our lives then we're off. But we would know that we have given the UK our best shot. We will know we havent just gone to NZ upsetting ourselves and family without trying to live the dream here. Hopefully what we are looking for doesnt mean moving 12000 miles away after all. It might just mean we need to have parts of NZ (the good) in our lives which we can achieve by visiting a few times a year. Hope this hasnt depressed too many people. Jack :) all the best, Rich. |
Originally posted by Jack Daws
Janeyray or is that "she of the crystal ball (s) " :D Thats exactly what we have decided to do. My wife and I have decided to give the UK another year. We will sell our house and buy another but this time mortage free. We will go out more to parks, walking, cycling even the seaside (bit nippy but what the hell). All the things we think we want in NZ. Instead of moving 12000 miles away we will try and find that missing something here at home, with friends and family. We will go on holidays (not had 1 for 3 years) 3 or 4 times. Visit OZ,NZ ect. but do them as tourists with £££ in our pockets and enjoy what these places have to offer. Knowing that we can come back in a few months if we like. My folks have a place in France that we can visit whenever we want. Not been there yet. If after a year or so we still feel that something is missing in our lives then we're off. But we would know that we have given the UK our best shot. We will know we havent just gone to NZ upsetting ourselves and family without trying to live the dream here. Hopefully what we are looking for doesnt mean moving 12000 miles away after all. It might just mean we need to have parts of NZ (the good) in our lives which we can achieve by visiting a few times a year. Hope this hasnt depressed too many people. Jack :) Voice of Sweet Reason, why doth thou but whisper amid the tumult? |
Originally posted by janeyray Oh I'am horse sick for my horsey and riding in the UK, but it's to hot to ride here in this heat, unfair to the horses to. W.A is a bit behind when it comes to competitive competion, most of the best riding is done in Victoria. I suppose I could get up around 4am and try it, may be cooler! I work part time with them (16 hrs a week) and the flies so it's turned a lovely hobby into a bit of a nightmare I'am afraid!! :eek: Glad to hear we have the best riding overhere though!:p Bet you can't wait to get back, where are you headed? |
Voice of Sweet Reason, why doth thou but whisper amid the tumult? |
Originally posted by hevs Meg, you very bored today or what ??:D :rolleyes: He must be - he went back to edit that one into "huge red font"......:D Rich |
Originally posted by theguitardoctor He must be - he went back to edit that one into "huge red font"......:D Rich |
QUOTE(Thats exactly what we have decided to do.
My wife and I have decided to give the UK another year. We will sell our house and buy another but this time mortage free. We will go out more to parks, walking, cycling even the seaside (bit nippy but what the hell). All the things we think we want in NZ. Instead of moving 12000 miles away we will try and find that missing something here at home, with friends and family. We will go on holidays (not had 1 for 3 years) 3 or 4 times. Visit OZ,NZ ect. but do them as tourists with £££ in our pockets and enjoy what these places have to offer. Knowing that we can come back in a few months if we like. My folks have a place in France that we can visit whenever we want. Not been there yet. If after a year or so we still feel that something is missing in our lives then we're off. But we would know that we have given the UK our best shot. We will know we havent just gone to NZ upsetting ourselves and family without trying to live the dream here. Hopefully what we are looking for doesnt mean moving 12000 miles away after all. It might just mean we need to have parts of NZ (the good) in our lives which we can achieve by visiting a few times a year.) Best of luck to you and your family Jack.......we too have decided to give it a go here in ole blighty. (same reasons) Maybe we need a "stay in the UK" support forum LOL!! I hope you find the life you are looking for. Enjoy your new adventure here in the UK. Hugs Matilda xx |
Sorry couldnt figure out how to get the quote done the right way!!! .....I need my sleep me thinks!
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Originally posted by Waltzin_Matilda Sorry couldnt figure out how to get the quote done the right way!!! .....I need my sleep me thinks! Yup ...you need the square brackets [ ] with the word "quote" in between to start with and [ ] /quote in between to finish.....go to bed it's nearly 2 am in the UK !!! all the best, Rich. |
Originally posted by Bix I wish someone would put a huge boot up his backside cos he aint doing my eyes any good :D Originally posted by Jack Daws Janeyray or is that "she of the crystal ball (s) " :D Thats exactly what we have decided to do. My wife and I have decided to give the UK another year. We will sell our house and buy another but this time mortage free. We will go out more to parks, walking, cycling even the seaside (bit nippy but what the hell). All the things we think we want in NZ. Instead of moving 12000 miles away we will try and find that missing something here at home, with friends and family. We will go on holidays (not had 1 for 3 years) 3 or 4 times. Visit OZ,NZ ect. but do them as tourists with £££ in our pockets and enjoy what these places have to offer. Knowing that we can come back in a few months if we like. My folks have a place in France that we can visit whenever we want. Not been there yet. If after a year or so we still feel that something is missing in our lives then we're off. But we would know that we have given the UK our best shot. We will know we havent just gone to NZ upsetting ourselves and family without trying to live the dream here. Hopefully what we are looking for doesnt mean moving 12000 miles away after all. It might just mean we need to have parts of NZ (the good) in our lives which we can achieve by visiting a few times a year. Hope this hasnt depressed too many people. Jack :) |
Jack,
What a great move and one that I think more people (us included) should have done first. I really hope that whatever you decided in the end it works out for you and your family. Best wishes. Originally posted by Jack Daws Janeyray or is that "she of the crystal ball (s) " :D Thats exactly what we have decided to do. My wife and I have decided to give the UK another year. We will sell our house and buy another but this time mortage free. We will go out more to parks, walking, cycling even the seaside (bit nippy but what the hell). All the things we think we want in NZ. Instead of moving 12000 miles away we will try and find that missing something here at home, with friends and family. We will go on holidays (not had 1 for 3 years) 3 or 4 times. Visit OZ,NZ ect. but do them as tourists with £££ in our pockets and enjoy what these places have to offer. Knowing that we can come back in a few months if we like. My folks have a place in France that we can visit whenever we want. Not been there yet. If after a year or so we still feel that something is missing in our lives then we're off. But we would know that we have given the UK our best shot. We will know we havent just gone to NZ upsetting ourselves and family without trying to live the dream here. Hopefully what we are looking for doesnt mean moving 12000 miles away after all. It might just mean we need to have parts of NZ (the good) in our lives which we can achieve by visiting a few times a year. Hope this hasnt depressed too many people. Jack :) |
Originally posted by Jack Daws Hope this hasnt depressed too many people. :) Great move and you are very wise indeed to take heed from other people's mistakes. Never seem to manage to do that myself :( I wish you well. |
Originally posted by theguitardoctor Hi Jat, I will certainly stop reading newspapers and listening to the news....it certainly has a negative angle in the UK. This knocks on to a lot of people, hence the high rate of people looking to leave....IMO the UK is not so bad...certainly has a lot more upsides than people realise. It sometimes takes a move so far to make you realise you didn't have it so bad. There's definitely a lot of upsides to going back. Our situation was definitely aggravated by circumstances and my wife's sudden delusionment with NZ..some people ride over these things, whilst others are affected a lot more. Maybe we weren't as strong as a couple as I thought we were before we emigrated...such is life. Rich. The gloom mongers can be found everywhere. When we first arrived in NZ all we were asked was 'Why have you moved here?' with a tone of surprise and lack of comprehension. I now see what they were all getting at! |
hi gladrags
how long have you been in NZ, where in UK are you heading to and why are you returning? lots of questions i know - sorry! |
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