Third world no its Australia?
May 27th 2003, 5:39 am
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Originally posted by pleasancefamily
And you have to bring in the Irish angle too, which is usually ignored (or taken for granted? Not sure.) Anyway, nobody usually mentions Ireland in the same breath as Celtic/Rangers rivalry.
Cheers - Don (Lived in Glasgie 2 years.)
And you have to bring in the Irish angle too, which is usually ignored (or taken for granted? Not sure.) Anyway, nobody usually mentions Ireland in the same breath as Celtic/Rangers rivalry.
Cheers - Don (Lived in Glasgie 2 years.)
Don
Spot on. Loyalism/Nationalism are intrinsically linked to the problem which is why I really think it's too complex to put down to football tribalism.
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May 27th 2003, 5:49 am
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Don
Spot on. Loyalism/Nationalism are intrinsically linked to the problem which is why I really think it's too complex to put down to football tribalism.
Cheers
martin
Don
Spot on. Loyalism/Nationalism are intrinsically linked to the problem which is why I really think it's too complex to put down to football tribalism.
Cheers
martin
Dammit, this is not the way to have a discussion like this - we need a pub and some beer - I'll get the first round!
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May 27th 2003, 5:57 am
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Originally posted by kentcoast
Couldn't agree more - the many complex issues involved merely come to the surface in football.
Dammit, this is not the way to have a discussion like this - we need a pub and some beer - I'll get the first round!
Perry
Couldn't agree more - the many complex issues involved merely come to the surface in football.
Dammit, this is not the way to have a discussion like this - we need a pub and some beer - I'll get the first round!
Perry
Sounds good to me. The season is over so a pint in Glasgow would be appropriate......although there is a direct link between alcohol and violence.....people drink lots in Glasgow.......the chances are we could be the victims of mindless violence.....although if we stick together we might be a force to be reckoned with.......and back to tribalism.
Isn't this the standard of logic applied by PB in his first post!!
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May 27th 2003, 6:20 am
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Originally posted by MartyO
Sounds good to me. The season is over so a pint in Glasgow would be appropriate......although there is a direct link between alcohol and violence.....people drink lots in Glasgow.......the chances are we could be the victims of mindless violence.....although if we stick together we might be a force to be reckoned with.......and back to tribalism.
Isn't this the standard of logic applied by PB in his first post!!
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martin
Sounds good to me. The season is over so a pint in Glasgow would be appropriate......although there is a direct link between alcohol and violence.....people drink lots in Glasgow.......the chances are we could be the victims of mindless violence.....although if we stick together we might be a force to be reckoned with.......and back to tribalism.
Isn't this the standard of logic applied by PB in his first post!!
Cheers
martin
Great days, Glasgow is a top European city. (Fact unrecognised by most south of the border.)
Cheers - Don
May 27th 2003, 6:27 am
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Originally posted by pleasancefamily
I must say that those 2 years in Glasgow were brilliant years, I lived in the West End and despite some of my worries was never picked on (but I WAS given a ride a few times!) for being from the south of England. Got invited to loads of parties where I was the only non-Glaswegian. Actually most weekends were a 3 day party Friday-Saturday-Sunday. Had a few Glaswegian girlfriends, fair to say, (wife's not watching), was young free & single. Still got the pair of Caterpillar boots I used to wear down Jinty McGinty's etc (gardening boots now).
Great days, Glasgow is a top European city. (Fact unrecognised by most south of the border.)
Cheers - Don
I must say that those 2 years in Glasgow were brilliant years, I lived in the West End and despite some of my worries was never picked on (but I WAS given a ride a few times!) for being from the south of England. Got invited to loads of parties where I was the only non-Glaswegian. Actually most weekends were a 3 day party Friday-Saturday-Sunday. Had a few Glaswegian girlfriends, fair to say, (wife's not watching), was young free & single. Still got the pair of Caterpillar boots I used to wear down Jinty McGinty's etc (gardening boots now).
Great days, Glasgow is a top European city. (Fact unrecognised by most south of the border.)
Cheers - Don
Don
Glasgow is a good place - certainly sounds as though you made the best use of your time whilst there.
Still, I would gladly 'trade up' and go down under.
Cheers
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May 28th 2003, 12:46 pm
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Another gem PB
"tribal law" well coming back to UK you'd better get up to speed on Islamic law
Another gem PB
"tribal law" well coming back to UK you'd better get up to speed on Islamic law
Nearly the same percentage per head of population here of ragheads and getting bigger all the time , we live next to the biggest raghead country in the world.
May 28th 2003, 12:48 pm
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Originally posted by kentcoast
Sorry - are you saying that Glasgow ISN'T a tribal (particularly celtic/rangers) culture?
If you are then either you've been away far longer than you say or you need to send some time in the anthropology section in the library.
Try a chapter called 'Casuals, terrace crews and fighting firms: Towards a sociological explanation of football hooligan behaviour. In a book called The Anthropology of Violence"
There's good and bad in every country but don't for one minute think that only people with black faces can have tribal behavior. Even in our nice civilised middle class world - look at the angry crowds that gather outside a particularly nasty child abuse court case - if your initial reaction is to say "But that's different" then you've made my point for me. The nasty little paedo has offended against our values and we want blood QED.
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Sorry - are you saying that Glasgow ISN'T a tribal (particularly celtic/rangers) culture?
If you are then either you've been away far longer than you say or you need to send some time in the anthropology section in the library.
Try a chapter called 'Casuals, terrace crews and fighting firms: Towards a sociological explanation of football hooligan behaviour. In a book called The Anthropology of Violence"
There's good and bad in every country but don't for one minute think that only people with black faces can have tribal behavior. Even in our nice civilised middle class world - look at the angry crowds that gather outside a particularly nasty child abuse court case - if your initial reaction is to say "But that's different" then you've made my point for me. The nasty little paedo has offended against our values and we want blood QED.
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May 28th 2003, 12:51 pm
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Originally posted by mika24me
There was a major celtic match the other day. After they lost to Porto I had to walk home through a Rangers area. People were shouting in the street in celebration of the loss, and someone warned me to get indoors quick incase someone attacked me thinking I was a celtic supporter. Police were everywhere in anticipation of violence.
I met a celtic supporter who was letting his dog out of his front door. The dog saw me and ran over. The poor man was wearing a celtic top and was terrified of being seen outside with it on. This was a typical post-match evening in Glasgow.
But of course this is nothing to do with tribal support. It's considered crime when two large groups of people idenfity each other by clothing, and hate each other becuase of a diffrent religion.
I'm sorry PB but if that is what you think then you will have a harsh wake-up call when you get back to the UK. Every country has it's faults, every coutry has some sort of tribal warfare, be it based on religion, sport, or race. And every country has the occasional horrific crime.
There was a major celtic match the other day. After they lost to Porto I had to walk home through a Rangers area. People were shouting in the street in celebration of the loss, and someone warned me to get indoors quick incase someone attacked me thinking I was a celtic supporter. Police were everywhere in anticipation of violence.
I met a celtic supporter who was letting his dog out of his front door. The dog saw me and ran over. The poor man was wearing a celtic top and was terrified of being seen outside with it on. This was a typical post-match evening in Glasgow.
But of course this is nothing to do with tribal support. It's considered crime when two large groups of people idenfity each other by clothing, and hate each other becuase of a diffrent religion.
I'm sorry PB but if that is what you think then you will have a harsh wake-up call when you get back to the UK. Every country has it's faults, every coutry has some sort of tribal warfare, be it based on religion, sport, or race. And every country has the occasional horrific crime.
You white man these are a bit more coloured than you , you can be either be Rangers or Celtic , here you just white fellow , good target for black man.
You people are naive beyond help , these Abos are way down the social ladder compared to football thugs.
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May 28th 2003, 12:54 pm
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Got to be a bit more careful about cussing them nignogs, bastards pinched me wallet last night while I was wallowing in the gutter.
May 28th 2003, 2:06 pm
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Another gem PB
"tribal law" well coming back to UK you'd better get up to speed on Islamic law
Another gem PB
"tribal law" well coming back to UK you'd better get up to speed on Islamic law
TERRORIST organisation Hezbollah enjoys widespread support in Australia, according to Lebanese Muslims who claim the group is respected because it liberated the south of Lebanon in 2000.
The Lebanese community yesterday rejected calls for an Australian ban on Hezbollah, arguing it posed no domestic threat.
Sheik Sehmi, from the Preston mosque in Melbourne said: "If there is a group that is a charity organisation then good luck to them ... There are many people from the south of Lebanon and they are very sympathetic with them, but being sympathetic is one thing and being a member is another."
Kahlil Haragli, a member of Sydney's Shiite Lebanese community, said there was no evidence of a terrorist threat in Australia.
But one Lebanese Muslim man who would not be named said he believed Australia did have active members, but he defended their right to be involved with the group.
Islamic resistance group Hezbollah has sold over 100,000 copies of a computer game where players become anti-Israeli terrorists, prompting calls for it to be banned in Australia where its also on sale.
May 28th 2003, 2:14 pm
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(Got to give it to these blokes, onto a better game than Immo terrorism.)
May 28th 2003, 4:45 pm
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Don
Glasgow is a good place - certainly sounds as though you made the best use of your time whilst there.
Still, I would gladly 'trade up' and go down under.
Cheers
martin
Don
Glasgow is a good place - certainly sounds as though you made the best use of your time whilst there.
Still, I would gladly 'trade up' and go down under.
Cheers
martin
http://www.australian-news.com.au/abocrime.htm
http://www.australian-news.com.au/archives.htm
http://www.abs.gov.au/Ausstats/ABS%4...2569de0025631b!OpenDocument
May 28th 2003, 6:24 pm
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(Bloody Abos thinking they own the place. Stupid Aussies never learnt how to control nignogs like we usedta.)
May 28th 2003, 6:26 pm
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(Bloody Abos thinking they own the place. Stupid Aussies never learnt how to control nignogs like we usedta.)
(Bloody Abos thinking they own the place. Stupid Aussies never learnt how to control nignogs like we usedta.)
May 28th 2003, 7:05 pm
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(Arn't we clever, us Bastards, eh? Look, we can use any mamby pamby tommy rot to equal effect.)
