Thinking of emigrating
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hey roberta
have been living in mandurah wa for 7 years i am also a bricklayer but finally had enough from dec to march its so hot for laying bricks up at 4.am finished for 2.30 .winter more rainfall in a day than uk gets in a week and wind that blows work down .
melbourne is the best for work like this do not even consider queensland or nsw ,adelaide also a bit kinder for laying bricks and properties cheaper my cousin gets 240 bucks a day day work rate in adelaide and loves it.
have been living in mandurah wa for 7 years i am also a bricklayer but finally had enough from dec to march its so hot for laying bricks up at 4.am finished for 2.30 .winter more rainfall in a day than uk gets in a week and wind that blows work down .
melbourne is the best for work like this do not even consider queensland or nsw ,adelaide also a bit kinder for laying bricks and properties cheaper my cousin gets 240 bucks a day day work rate in adelaide and loves it.
'This is wonderful, it's winter and I can still work outside/wear a t-shirt'(insert shot of family doing something they 'couldn't' do in a UK winter).
But I watch it and think 'there's another side to that coin in summer if you work outside, shove that'!

Disclaimer: I am a namby pamby southern shandy drinking softy who works in an office, both in Sydney and the UK.
But I cycle and run a lot and that's by choice, so I do know the heat takes its toll on my performance.
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hey roberta sorry the thread was in reply to ice geordie as her other half is a bricklayer but would also apply to you guys.
brisbane is beautiful but is so bloody humid and feels just as hot if not hotter than wa! just trying to play a game of football outside for an hour from nov til april is hard work.
brisbane is beautiful but is so bloody humid and feels just as hot if not hotter than wa! just trying to play a game of football outside for an hour from nov til april is hard work.
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Schools stay open too even on 43C days...that took a bit of getting used to as back in Canada, many schools tend to close on days of extreme cold.
I'd say with nursing and electrical that's in your favor, but more so if your hubby has industrial and HV experience. There's tons of regular domestic and commercial sparkies around, but still a demand for HV ones. They asked my hubby last week if any of his Canadian friends with HV skills and cable jointing experience would be interested in coming over. They're looking far and wide it seems.
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Margaret, thankyou for a very realistic reply! I have to say that I have the same attitude you had: 'we can always come back', but in reality we will have to use a chunk of our equity, so there may be other implications arising with that....lots to think about! Do you enjoy nursing in Oz? How is it in comparison to the UK?

What if the kids definitely don't settle .

Re;nursing, i find i have to work twice as hard and longer hours, due to high cost of living and shortage of staff and also because nursing assistants are a big no, no here. But I count myself lucky that i have a job, lots of peeps come and struggle to get work, also at least in my job i have made some lovely friends.
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Worry about "any qualified provider" taking over the running of services.
Long hours, some unpaid just to get the work done.
We were told recently by a senior manager that we were the lucky ones as we have jobs!
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Same here now hun. Staff not being replaced, redundancies etc.
Worry about "any qualified provider" taking over the running of services.
Long hours, some unpaid just to get the work done.
We were told recently by a senior manager that we were the lucky ones as we have jobs!
Worry about "any qualified provider" taking over the running of services.
Long hours, some unpaid just to get the work done.
We were told recently by a senior manager that we were the lucky ones as we have jobs!
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Sounds so bad there, i remember the thing that fascinated me the most was the fact you were paid for overtime here and not 'time-back'.
Not sure what the statistics are but i know there are alot of newly qualified nurses here not getting jobs (which is one of the anf gripes just now), and i think its in the thousands, i am not meaning to scare you, but i believe this to be the truth. Look on anf website (Australian nurses federation) and EBA (enterprise bargaining agreement) for more details. There is a nurses dispute about this and other issues going on just now. I am talking in Victoria only.
However i work in the operating theatre and i swear i could work 24 hrs 7 days a week if i wanted
Not sure what the statistics are but i know there are alot of newly qualified nurses here not getting jobs (which is one of the anf gripes just now), and i think its in the thousands, i am not meaning to scare you, but i believe this to be the truth. Look on anf website (Australian nurses federation) and EBA (enterprise bargaining agreement) for more details. There is a nurses dispute about this and other issues going on just now. I am talking in Victoria only.
However i work in the operating theatre and i swear i could work 24 hrs 7 days a week if i wanted
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Yes the situation here is dire! as a student I should be supernumary, but find I also stay beyond my hours and miss out on learning experiences to help out on the floor. Not complaining, but supernumary should be supernumary. I am one of the lucky ones as I took a career break and should be offered a RGN post when I register, but there are 100 student nurses due to qualify in Jan 13 and literally no jobs.
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I know that the nurses in Victoria are fearing nursing assistants (cant remember what its called here, HBA or summit) are taking their jobs. We were one of the hosps that piloted nursing assistants, and it was very positive, but petition round last week to stop this. I have no beef with it as i was very well used to working with fantastic nursing assistants, but does make you wonder for the long term, it probably contributes to the fact i would never get a job back in Scotland now.
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All the nurses arriving from the UK can't be helping!
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This is very true and is an ongoing argument universally for all career choices. So it would appear to be more beneficial to ensure I have gained a full years post-grad experience (at least) before applying ? I wasn't aware of no nursing assistants in Oz and actually couldn't imagine a nurses role without them, over here assistants are trained to a high level .My own post was in wound management and venepuncture and in the ER they are very skilled, so budget wise this would make sense.
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This is very true and is an ongoing argument universally for all career choices. So it would appear to be more beneficial to ensure I have gained a full years post-grad experience (at least) before applying ? I wasn't aware of no nursing assistants in Oz and actually couldn't imagine a nurses role without them, over here assistants are trained to a high level .My own post was in wound management and venepuncture and in the ER they are very skilled, so budget wise this would make sense.
) I find the nurses union here much more militant that in the u.k,........... i quite enjoy that really
Nursing assistant worked fantastic in scotland but i admit i am wary of it here, having already met many, many qualified registered nurses who's english is extremely poor, infact contributed to a cock up in our dept a few months ago.
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This is very true and is an ongoing argument universally for all career choices. So it would appear to be more beneficial to ensure I have gained a full years post-grad experience (at least) before applying ? I wasn't aware of no nursing assistants in Oz and actually couldn't imagine a nurses role without them, over here assistants are trained to a high level .My own post was in wound management and venepuncture and in the ER they are very skilled, so budget wise this would make sense.



