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Grayling Oct 3rd 2009 5:13 pm

Re: Things you should know before moving down under...
 

Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 7987549)
You've obviously never met the people I know then.

Obviously not.

For many of the people I encounter a trip north of Hervey bay is the trip of a lifetime.

I have never met such insular people

Sally Simpson Oct 3rd 2009 5:21 pm

Re: Things you should know before moving down under...
 
I know of many who have travelled extensively around the world & many more who have travelled extensively around Aus. Equally, I know many in the UK who have never been further than Cornwall. There are people who do & people who don't in both countries & as usual, the sweeping generalisations are amusing if not slightly tedious!

Grayling Oct 3rd 2009 5:23 pm

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Originally Posted by sallyclaire (Post 7987556)
I know of many who have travelled extensively around the world & many more who have travelled extensively around Aus. Equally, I know many in the UK who have never been further than Cornwall. There are people who do & people who don't in both countries & as usual, the sweeping generalisations are amusing if not slightly tedious!

Indeed....why is why stupid statements such as Australian travel more than brits need challenging.

ABCDiamond Oct 3rd 2009 5:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7987539)
NSW, Queensland.....

They sure do like to travel:rolleyes:

In the year ended December 2006 there were 4.9 million short-term resident departures. (4.9 million is about 25% of the population)

The top destinations for Australian residents departing short term during 2006 were New Zealand (864,700 departures), the United States of America (440,300), the United Kingdom (412,800), Thailand (288,100) and China (251,000) (table 23.13).


Compared to UK, where it is a bit more than 36% by the looks of it that travel to the Eurozone. But the following article doesn't give enough for a direct comparison.

However, for a country away from "everywhere" according to some, it seems a high number do go overseas.


13 Jul 2009
Some 56m holidays will be taken by British people this summer, according a survey by Sainsbury's Travel Insurance.
On average, British travellers spend £784 per person on each of their holidays, adding up to a total of £43.86bn that will be forked out this summer.
More than a third (36%) of the people surveyed said they would be travelling in the eurozone this year, while 63% will be taking at least one break in the UK.


http://news.opodo.co.uk/NewsDetails/...s_this_summer_

BadgeIsBack Oct 3rd 2009 5:32 pm

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Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7987560)
Indeed....why is why stupid statements such as Australian travel more than brits need challenging.

Or refined in greater detail. For a targeted demographic it might even be true - especially when you take into account ease of access.

To me it is just as stupid to paste loads of rolleyes..

ABCDiamond Oct 3rd 2009 5:34 pm

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Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7987560)
Indeed....why is why stupid statements such as Australian travel more than brits need challenging.

I agree

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7987539)
NSW, Queensland.....

They sure do like to travel:rolleyes:


BadgeIsBack Oct 3rd 2009 5:37 pm

Re: Things you should know before moving down under...
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7987551)
Obviously not.

For many of the people I encounter a trip north of Hervey bay is the trip of a lifetime.

I have never met such insular people

(!)

I have met that ilk in many places.

Having said that, of course, you have to make allowances, after all, a tropical trip is the stuff people do dream about - ask the Brits. We will do it too one day when the children are older.

You'll never hear a British person talk about venturing to the North of the Watford Gap a trip of a lifetime(!) I think allowances can be made for some.

And for others, well, they're happy enough to go to S America. I met a bloke the other weekend who is obsessed with Mexico City - I find Melbournians are more than happy to visit places when there are so many other places they could go to that roll off the tongue just as easily.

ABCDiamond Oct 3rd 2009 5:39 pm

Re: Things you should know before moving down under...
 

Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7987551)
Obviously not.

For many of the people I encounter a trip north of Hervey bay is the trip of a lifetime.

I have never met such insular people

I think we have found the problem... maybe you need to meet more people ?

I've never come across someone that has contact with only such a small sphere of people before. Most people I know have travelled much more, and regularly take trips to the Pacific Islands or USA etc.

Obviously there are some that don't get about as much, but that is normal for many countries, especially when there is so much of your own country to see..

iamthecreaturefromuranus Oct 3rd 2009 6:54 pm

Re: Things you should know before moving down under...
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 7987564)
In the year ended December 2006 there were 4.9 million short-term resident departures. (4.9 million is about 25% of the population)

The top destinations for Australian residents departing short term during 2006 were New Zealand (864,700 departures), the United States of America (440,300), the United Kingdom (412,800), Thailand (288,100) and China (251,000) (table 23.13).


I wonder what percentage of those are migrants visiting 'home'?. I would have thought the UK and NZ trips would include a large numbers of 'home' visits.

Grayling Oct 3rd 2009 7:09 pm

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Originally Posted by ABCDiamond (Post 7987577)
Most people I know have travelled much more, and regularly take trips to the Pacific Islands or USA etc.

Oh I bet they are regular globetrotters:rolleyes:

I imagine those who live in the more far flung corners of Australia have to be prepaered to travel.

For you baysiders a trip to Brisbane must be quite an adventure:lol:

jad n rich Oct 3rd 2009 10:22 pm

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Originally Posted by Grayling (Post 7987657)

For you baysiders a trip to Brisbane must be quite an adventure:lol:


Partner has family in capalaba,. welly point and vic point, none of them have ever travelled:eek:. SIL went on a plane to sydney - once:lol: the daughter is nearly 30 and has only ever been to stradbroke island, 2 of the brothers are mid 40's and have never been anywhere out of OZ.

They never even go into the city - too busy.

The entire family scare the hell out of me:lol: in a sorta if I stay here way.....:eek:

Sally Simpson Oct 3rd 2009 11:27 pm

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You all need more nurses in your lives!
Have never met such a transient bunch, especially since moving to Aus!
Grayling, you need a nurse in your life honey!;):lol:

moneypenny20 Oct 3rd 2009 11:40 pm

Re: Things you should know before moving down under...
 

Originally Posted by sallyclaire (Post 7987929)
You all need more nurses in your lives!
Have never met such a transient bunch, especially since moving to Aus!
Grayling, you need a nurse in your life honey!;):lol:

Well I can only say that the people I know both here and in the UK must be odd. Some of them travel a lot and some of them don't travel anywhere regardless of whether they're English or Australian. How bizarre me and my friends must be :blink:

Danny Tiatto's nose Oct 4th 2009 12:07 am

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Originally Posted by willamos (Post 7963407)
These are a few things (cautionary tales) I think Brits should be aware of before embarking on life down under. Please add to them if you can think of more things and/or modifications:

* Moving country does not fix all issues in your life. This should be obvious but I get the impression from reading some stuff on here that a lot of people actually believe it will.

* Australia is NOT devoid of a large, large number of the UK's problems. If you believe that Australia is a crime-free zone, for example, you may be disappointed. Stuff happens here all the time (Quoll recently reported some fairly random shootings/stabbings near where she is in Canberra on another thread) and the idea that these things are unique to Manchester or London is silly. Where I am there was a mugging at knife-point not three minutes from where I live recently and there is a MAJOR vandalism and 'tagging' problem. It's supposed to be a nice area though, so would hate to be in a dodgy area like Broadmeadows, parts of Frankston, Dandenong or Footscray.

* The weather is different in Australia, but not NECESSARILY better. In Melbourne, the climate is surprisingly similar to the UK (unpredictable and often cold and windy) and whilst the summer is longer and warmer than in the UK, the really hot days (40 plus) are very uncomfortable and you cannot really enjoy them as being outside in that heat is unbearable. You have the risk of bush fires at one end of the country and serious flooding at the other. Tasmania can get both. If you are moving for the weather (this seems to be a major life priority for a lot of people, which is quite foreign to me personally) be careful where you go to.

* It is impossible to predict prior to leaving what and who you will miss - and how much. You may find yourself missing things more than you think. It is easy to be in Britain, amidst all the British moaning and complaining, and think that there is nothing you will miss. It is very easy to misjudge this and only see the light, so to speak, once you are 10,000 miles away.

* If you are in a mixed nationality relationship (which may well be the very reason for the move) you can find yourself feeling quite trapped/stifled by being surrounded by your partner's family/friends constantly, especially when you do not have any of your own around.

Atempting to get back on topic here, but is this post anything other than the grumblings of someone who isn't happy with their move to Aus ?

* Moving country does not fix all issues in your life. *

Unless your Ronnie Biggs, then of course it doesn't, and lets not assume many migrants are really expecting it to. How many of us were escaping something in the first place ?

* Australia is NOT devoid of a large, large number of the UK's problems. If you believe that Australia is a crime-free zone, for example, you may be disappointed. Stuff happens here all the time*

Again, do any would be migrants expect some kind of crime free utopia ? The vast majority will know something about Australia and the points system means most will have enough upstairs to work this one out. Even skippy had a few baddy's FFS !

* The weather is different in Australia, but not NECESSARILY better

The weather is a massive improvement on that of the UK. It gives you an outdoor lifestlye, makes the sea warm enough to swim in, gives you guaranteed weekends for whatever you want to do. How many of us have played sport in the UK, only to have numerous weekend washouts or freezeouts (it still happens in the prem). Ok, the extremes are harsh, but they are not that common.

Without this weather, most people wouldn't move here, unless you had the desire to leave your friends and family for somewhere with equally as shit a climate as the UK.

* It is impossible to predict prior to leaving what and who you will miss

Of course it is, but isn't this all part of emigrating ? Its a risk, its exciting, it will challenge you and you will miss people. If youre not up to these kinds of challenges, then you probably shouldn't be thinking about emigrating in the first place.

Surely if people focus on the positives, they stand a better chance of enjoying Australia than they do by looking at the negatives ?

Sally Simpson Oct 4th 2009 12:14 am

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We can all focus on the positives to our hearts content but nothing, no amount of research or doing a reccie, can really prepare you for the reality of living here & how you will cope with that.
We have been very fortunate so far in that we feel 'at home' here. You cannot research that feeling no matter how hard you try & those that do not, should not be villified for feeling differently!


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