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Wolfen Oct 4th 2003 11:09 am

And then it all went wrong!!!
 
For those who remember us, we wrapped up the computer 4th Sept and I havnt been back on this board since.

We arrived in Melbourne 12th Sept and I has been a complete nightmare since.

We are on the verge of leaving because of various reasons.

1. We chose Melbourne because we thought that there would be plenty of work in my area (Telecomms). THERE ISNT. Now faced with the dilema of moving to Sydney.

2. House we are renting may be infested with White Tails. Spent till 04:00 last night catching them to stop the kids from being bitten. Pest control coming out on Monday. Because of this my wife Michelle, does not want anything to do with spiders anymore which makes the option of moving to sydney impossible.

3. Michelle is missing her family immensley and has nobody out here other then me to turn too. Compounded by all the other stuff its making it worse.

We have worked out that we have 3 options.

1. Cut our losses and go home.
2. I have the option of contracting in the USA.
3. We stick it out in Melbourne, hope something jobwise turns up and the white tails disappear

I suppose I`m looking for others that have moved to Aus and found it tough for one reason or another but have got through and come out the other end.

Any words of encouragement greatly accepted.

Neil

WBB Oct 4th 2003 11:22 am

jeez mate sounds like your having a bad time of it....and i suppose it all feels more intense than it would back "home".

but at the end of the day you have only been there a couple of weeks, think of all the work you did to get there, waiting for a reply from dimia, the joy when you got your visa's.

i would suggest sticking it out for a while longer and set a date in the next couple of months when you can come back to the u.k and visit friends and family or when they can visit you.

good luck mate

Vicky88 Oct 4th 2003 11:35 am

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 
Neil

My husband is in the same field as yourself (Telecomms) and is on some job alert list that sends him job listing. We have noticed lately that there have been a lot of jobs come up in Canberra and Perth. Telecomms work is hard to come by, which is why we live in the US, but have noticed that the situation has improved markedly in OZ in the past 12 months, enough to assure us he should be able to find work when we return next year.

Canberra is not a bad option, housing is probably a bit cheaper than Melbourne, Sydney is not that far away if you like the cultural bits and there is a good quality of life there for families.

However, I think the immediate thing you must address is getting you wife some friends. It is a lot easier to cope with things when you have someone besides your spouse to moan to. Is there a playgroup she can join? Do your kids go to school - can she volunteer at the school to help out one morning a week and get to know the other mothers that way? Do you kids have any school mates you can invite around and get to know their mothers? Does she play any sport, ie. often there is a mother's league played at the local sporting complex in the mornings?

As for coming to the US, if you are having problems in Oz, you are going to have the same problems in the US. Americans are not as friendly, your wife will not be able to work and schooling is questionable at the best. Your wife will still miss her family.

Megalania Oct 4th 2003 11:47 am

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 

Originally posted by Wolfen
For those who remember us, we wrapped up the computer 4th Sept and I havnt been back on this board since.

We arrived in Melbourne 12th Sept and I has been a complete nightmare since.

We are on the verge of leaving because of various reasons.

1. We chose Melbourne because we thought that there would be plenty of work in my area (Telecomms). THERE ISNT. Now faced with the dilema of moving to Sydney.

2. House we are renting may be infested with White Tails. Spent till 04:00 last night catching them to stop the kids from being bitten. Pest control coming out on Monday. Because of this my wife Michelle, does not want anything to do with spiders anymore which makes the option of moving to sydney impossible.

3. Michelle is missing her family immensley and has nobody out here other then me to turn too. Compounded by all the other stuff its making it worse.

We have worked out that we have 3 options.

1. Cut our losses and go home.
2. I have the option of contracting in the USA.
3. We stick it out in Melbourne, hope something jobwise turns up and the white tails disappear

I suppose I`m looking for others that have moved to Aus and found it tough for one reason or another but have got through and come out the other end.

Any words of encouragement greatly accepted.

Neil
1. A bit late in the day to find out now. Why did you not assess the market before you moved your family?

2. Use a vacuum cleaner to clean your house of spiders, inside and out. Are you arachnophobic? Get over it, it's not one tiny part as bad as you suppose.

3. She's picking up your panic - straighten up, gut in, chin out.

Get out there and network/sell for all you are worth but leave the panic behind - noone will employ you if you look weak and about to turn tail and run. Make sure your wife has plenty to occupy her.

jonah66 Oct 4th 2003 11:48 am

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 

Originally posted by Wolfen
For those who remember us, we wrapped up the computer 4th Sept and I havnt been back on this board since.

We arrived in Melbourne 12th Sept and I has been a complete nightmare since.

Any words of encouragement greatly accepted.

Neil
Hang in there mate ... it hasn't been a month yet!!

It would be a mistake 2 come back 2 the UK so soon. Give Australia a chance ... after all ... what made u decide 2 move there in the 1st place?

Try 2 relax ... & enjoy yourselves!! :D

Don't forget ... u have moved 2 the other side of the world ... things may seem worse ... more compouded than they really are!!
It will get better ... I insist!! Because me & my family r arrivin' there on 17th Nov!!

Regards

Ian :beer:

amanda w Oct 4th 2003 11:50 am

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 

Originally posted by Wolfen
For those who remember us, we wrapped up the computer 4th Sept and I havnt been back on this board since.

We arrived in Melbourne 12th Sept and I has been a complete nightmare since.

We are on the verge of leaving because of various reasons.

1. We chose Melbourne because we thought that there would be plenty of work in my area (Telecomms). THERE ISNT. Now faced with the dilema of moving to Sydney.

2. House we are renting may be infested with White Tails. Spent till 04:00 last night catching them to stop the kids from being bitten. Pest control coming out on Monday. Because of this my wife Michelle, does not want anything to do with spiders anymore which makes the option of moving to sydney impossible.

3. Michelle is missing her family immensley and has nobody out here other then me to turn too. Compounded by all the other stuff its making it worse.

We have worked out that we have 3 options.

1. Cut our losses and go home.
2. I have the option of contracting in the USA.
3. We stick it out in Melbourne, hope something jobwise turns up and the white tails disappear

I suppose I`m looking for others that have moved to Aus and found it tough for one reason or another but have got through and come out the other end.

Any words of encouragement greatly accepted.

Neil
Hi Neil

Don't give up!

We arrived in Adelaide 9th August, had lots of family there and had done all our research, but realised it was not the place we had envisaged ourselves living in. Since it had taken us over 2 years to get our visa's we were adamant that we would not give up until we had found the 'Australia' we were looking for. After
driving across half of Oz (with 4 children) we are settled on the Sunshine Coast and v happy. Along with the change in lifestyle my husband has had a complete change of career and is happier than ever at work.

I would sincerely encourage you to stick it out in Oz, this country has so much to offer, keep looking.

Good Luck

Amanda

karawara88 Oct 4th 2003 2:56 pm

Good post, its never easy but hang in there a bit longer maybe move some place new. Good luck with the job hunting.

No matter how much research you do the reality is always harder.

Zebra4 Oct 4th 2003 5:19 pm

Crikey, 2 weeks isn't very long. It's not a bad country to have time out of work. Give it a bit longer and find some work you'll really enjoy in whatever field.

We're doing something completely different to what we did in UK. There are heaps of opportunities and a whole lot of new friends to be made out there. Don't give up yet!

yafm Oct 4th 2003 6:18 pm

Keep at it mate. our wife needs to find some company or enthusiasm. As suggested any sports or other pursuit she can make some contact with?

Don't let her get uptight about the spiders supposedly EVERYWHERE in NSW we have visited here 4 times and have not yet seen a dangerous spider just some huntsman who are big but ok.

You struck unlucky with an infested house but the next one will not be the same surely.?

Keep at it As for the earlier post re Canberra we have two families of second cousins living and working in Canberra/NSW borders and they love it to death One family has in fact lived all over the world - kids and all - as he was in the Army Intelligence and he wife and kids think it the best there is - he doesn't come from Canberra by the way.

Keep at it Mrs it will get much much better as you relax and look for the silver lining:D :D :cool:

tinaj Oct 4th 2003 6:42 pm

It does sound very early days for you to be giving up what you planned and waited for, for all those Months.

Before you come back, definitely look at jobs in other States. Might be a good idea to contact agencies in Sydney, Brisbane Canberra etc and ask them if they have anything available.
Melbourne may not be for you but you could find a great place somewhere else.

The spiders sound awful, but try and think to yourself that you have just had extremely bad luck. This is by no means normal and it would be unlikely to happen if you move to another house.

Network, network and get your wife involved in some groups where she can make some friends.


It is far too early on to be giving up your dream and coming back, you have got to ride the rough to get to the smooth!

suz Oct 4th 2003 6:47 pm

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 

Originally posted by Wolfen
For those who remember us, we wrapped up the computer 4th Sept and I havnt been back on this board since.

We arrived in Melbourne 12th Sept and I has been a complete nightmare since.

We are on the verge of leaving because of various reasons.

1. We chose Melbourne because we thought that there would be plenty of work in my area (Telecomms). THERE ISNT. Now faced with the dilema of moving to Sydney.

2. House we are renting may be infested with White Tails. Spent till 04:00 last night catching them to stop the kids from being bitten. Pest control coming out on Monday. Because of this my wife Michelle, does not want anything to do with spiders anymore which makes the option of moving to sydney impossible.

3. Michelle is missing her family immensley and has nobody out here other then me to turn too. Compounded by all the other stuff its making it worse.

We have worked out that we have 3 options.

1. Cut our losses and go home.
2. I have the option of contracting in the USA.
3. We stick it out in Melbourne, hope something jobwise turns up and the white tails disappear

I suppose I`m looking for others that have moved to Aus and found it tough for one reason or another but have got through and come out the other end.

Any words of encouragement greatly accepted.

Neil
Neil, Hi,
So sorry you're having a bad time of it. You cannot give the whole thing up now, after only a few weeks, Oz is so big and actually the options are plenty, why not give yourself and the family a holiday and have alook around, I know it may cost you financially, but at this point in the situation it will cost you whatever you decide, do some research into job poss in other cities and if it looks promising go there. Good luck with it all
Suz

Pollyana Oct 4th 2003 7:15 pm

Hi Neil and family,
Hang in there - as others have said its very early days. Stick it out, and remember how much you went through to get there. Its bound to be weird at first, and you've been so unlucky with the spiders. I've been out to Oz 6 times now, and only seen one poisonous one, that was right out in the sticks in Queensland.

Think theres a few people on the forum moving to Melbourne soon, cos they've been talking about a meet when they get there. And the comments about meeting other people through the kids is a good one - I'm almost starting to wish I had kids, as its the perfect way to get to know strangers, through school and stuff.
Hope things pick up for you soon.
All the best

Mitchells Oct 4th 2003 7:30 pm

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 

Originally posted by Wolfen
For those who remember us, we wrapped up the computer 4th Sept and I havnt been back on this board since.

We arrived in Melbourne 12th Sept and I has been a complete nightmare since.

We are on the verge of leaving because of various reasons.

1. We chose Melbourne because we thought that there would be plenty of work in my area (Telecomms). THERE ISNT. Now faced with the dilema of moving to Sydney.

2. House we are renting may be infested with White Tails. Spent till 04:00 last night catching them to stop the kids from being bitten. Pest control coming out on Monday. Because of this my wife Michelle, does not want anything to do with spiders anymore which makes the option of moving to sydney impossible.

3. Michelle is missing her family immensley and has nobody out here other then me to turn too. Compounded by all the other stuff its making it worse.

We have worked out that we have 3 options.

1. Cut our losses and go home.
2. I have the option of contracting in the USA.
3. We stick it out in Melbourne, hope something jobwise turns up and the white tails disappear

I suppose I`m looking for others that have moved to Aus and found it tough for one reason or another but have got through and come out the other end.

Any words of encouragement greatly accepted.

Neil


Neil,

Sorry to hear that its not working at the moment, but just hang in there. You've only been there for a few weeks and things sound like they can only get better.

If your wife is panicking and being negative, your job is to be the positive one, even though you will probably get shot down with any positive comment you make (speaking from past experience).
Don't let the kids pick up on the way you are feeling either as this will affect the way they settle in.

Look around the whole country for a job in your area, you've made the move to OZ, so moving to a different state is nothing.

Good Luck.

Mike & karen Oct 4th 2003 8:06 pm

Hi

We know how you feel, we arrived in Melbourne on 23 Feb 2003,
and the first few weeks we wondered what we had done, it was very hard and we almost nearly packed up and went back to the UK.
But now we have been here nearly8 month's, we have settled in nicely, bought a house in Berwick.
If you want to meet up, we would be glad too.
The only thing we are sad about is that our daughter has gone back to the UK to finish off her course at college, but she WILL be back next June.
Anyway, give it a chance and we are sure you will like it in Melbourne.

Mike & karen

The Koalas Oct 4th 2003 8:47 pm

Stick with it matey. It will get easier, Oz is a big place and the places are good and bad. I would take one step at a time. Get the pests sorted first if they won't sort it move. Then just sit back have a holiday and chill. It will all come right.

Jaykay Oct 4th 2003 8:50 pm

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 

Originally posted by Wolfen
For those who remember us, we wrapped up the computer 4th Sept and I havnt been back on this board since.

We arrived in Melbourne 12th Sept and I has been a complete nightmare since.

We are on the verge of leaving because of various reasons.

1. We chose Melbourne because we thought that there would be plenty of work in my area (Telecomms). THERE ISNT. Now faced with the dilema of moving to Sydney.

2. House we are renting may be infested with White Tails. Spent till 04:00 last night catching them to stop the kids from being bitten. Pest control coming out on Monday. Because of this my wife Michelle, does not want anything to do with spiders anymore which makes the option of moving to sydney impossible.

3. Michelle is missing her family immensley and has nobody out here other then me to turn too. Compounded by all the other stuff its making it worse.

We have worked out that we have 3 options.

1. Cut our losses and go home.
2. I have the option of contracting in the USA.
3. We stick it out in Melbourne, hope something jobwise turns up and the white tails disappear

I suppose I`m looking for others that have moved to Aus and found it tough for one reason or another but have got through and come out the other end.

Any words of encouragement greatly accepted.

Neil
Okay Neil, now I feel really awful as I haven't rung yet. I will ring you this week.

You've got me thinking that a meet up might be a good idea, so I've started a new thread asking if anyone is interested.

Regards

jopaulss Oct 4th 2003 8:54 pm

Hi Wolfen
So sorry that all is not going well , we know how you both feel, you have probably read our story before so wont bore you with it all. But you have to give it longer , the rental we where in was terrible , we had rats in the roof , vandals smashing our car and perverts lets leave it at that . I wanted to go home , paul even started to hate his job , which he loved and had done for years. We didnt sleep , and i had terrible depression , kids hated it , so very bad all in all. We stuck it out for the 6 month lease , then got out , if we had money , i would have left before. Now we are in a house literally 3 streets away from before in a cauldisac , lovely house ( still renting ) , kids are happy , im working and meeting new people all the time , paul has now got promotion and things are looking up. This month we have been here 12 months and we have at this point no intentions of going back to the UK .
If possible ride the storm stick together and hopefully there will be light at the end of the tunnel , good luck ;)
Joanne and Paul xx

hevs Oct 4th 2003 9:00 pm

Oh so sorry to hear of your nightmare, i'm panincking now as we are due to fly over in a couple of weeks!
All the others have made great suggestions, all of which i agree with, definately use the kids and school as a way to meet new people. Theres a lot more of us coming over really soon and Jay Kays meet is an excellent idea, try and hang in there, it can only get better mate:rolleyes:

footie chick Oct 4th 2003 9:36 pm

Hi Wolfen and family.

I hope your situation works out for you all. Best of luck !!

footie chick :)

Marlo Oct 4th 2003 11:14 pm

Hi Wolfen,

Sorry to hear how you`re feeling at the moment, I`ve sent you a pm, keep at it, early days yet.

Chin up!

Loraine:)

kerrylm Oct 5th 2003 4:20 am

Hi Wolfen

I think we flew out of London the same day as you - 10th Sept? Anyway - we were going out for a look around and to get the feel of the place, we still haven't got visa yet. We wern't too impressed with Melbourne, so drove up to Sydney, which we loved! 12 hours drive or an hours flight - loads of work and we didn't think there was a huge difference in housing prices if you live just outside the City. Its worth a look surely! Even if you move to a different part of the UK it takes a few months to settle so a new Continent! Months and months. Good luck, the sun should be shining soon and that will make a massive difference.

Sunlover Oct 5th 2003 4:23 am

Don't worry ! It's normal.

I have emigrated 3 times and each time I felt absolutely hysterical and semi-suicidal for the first three months. Husband usually takes it better than me but was worse on the move to Oz. In fact a year later and he is still moaning gently (He basically dislikes Aussies a lot).

Those first weeks you just want to get on the first plane home. You're lonely, you are homesick and every tiny thing is a huge effort because you have to learn and do everything all over again.

However You WILL get over the panic. Whether you will ever love Oz is another matter, but at least wait until the panic subsides so that you can make a rational rather than an emotional decision.

We are also infested with white tails - I think it relates to having huge old trees on our property, do you have any ? I vaccum every nook and cranny (including ceilings) every week which seems to control them, and when I do see one I spray it with any insect spray I can lay my hands on until it runs towards me to attack (they're like MM). When it gets close enough I squash it with a shoe - quite satisfying !

Good luck and don't give up just yet.

;)

markeh Oct 5th 2003 4:54 am

Hi Sunlover,
I like your advice about the hoovering. My favorite tool to get rid of spiders is the hoover.
Make sure that you have the 6ft long extension on it & then you can feel safe & know that they have gone to a better place. :) ;) :)

Bye
Markeh.


Ps I don't like spiders.
I also plan to get a couple of dogs. I believe that they have there own removal system. (I must remember that next time they lick my face :scared: )

cinderella Oct 5th 2003 6:51 am

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 

Originally posted by Wolfen
For those who remember us, we wrapped up the computer 4th Sept and I havnt been back on this board since.

We arrived in Melbourne 12th Sept and I has been a complete nightmare since.

We are on the verge of leaving because of various reasons.

1. We chose Melbourne because we thought that there would be plenty of work in my area (Telecomms). THERE ISNT. Now faced with the dilema of moving to Sydney.

2. House we are renting may be infested with White Tails. Spent till 04:00 last night catching them to stop the kids from being bitten. Pest control coming out on Monday. Because of this my wife Michelle, does not want anything to do with spiders anymore which makes the option of moving to sydney impossible.

3. Michelle is missing her family immensley and has nobody out here other then me to turn too. Compounded by all the other stuff its making it worse.

We have worked out that we have 3 options.

1. Cut our losses and go home.
2. I have the option of contracting in the USA.
3. We stick it out in Melbourne, hope something jobwise turns up and the white tails disappear

I suppose I`m looking for others that have moved to Aus and found it tough for one reason or another but have got through and come out the other end.

Any words of encouragement greatly accepted.

Neil
Hi Wolfen and Mrs Wolfen,

Hope you are feeling a bit better today.

As everyone else has said, don't give up. Get out and about and treat this first part as a sort of holiday, getting to know the place excercise. Be busy all the time and things will just fall into place. And if you don't feel that Melbourne is the place for you try somewhere else. You will know when it is right, just tike when you are buying a house.

And good luck with the job hunting!

SteveBannister Oct 5th 2003 7:53 am

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 

Originally posted by Wolfen

1. We chose Melbourne because we thought that there would be plenty of work in my area (Telecomms).

2. House we are renting may be infested with White Tails. Spent till 04:00 last night catching them to stop the kids from being bitten. Pest control coming out on Monday. Because of this my wife Michelle, does not want anything to do with spiders anymore which makes the option of moving to sydney impossible.

3. Michelle is missing her family immensley and has nobody out here other then me to turn too. Compounded by all the other stuff its making it worse.

We have worked out that we have 3 options.

I've worked out that you've only got 1 option. DEAL WITH IT!

1. You THOUGHT there was plenty of work? THOUGHT? You take your family half way across the world and don't FIND OUT first? Newspapers, on-line agencies, never heard of these?

2. You must have missed all the threads about spiders then? There were only one or two a week! That's why man invented slippers! Get the bug man round and fumigate. Simple. Did you honestly expect no spiders in Melbourne?

3. It's been 3 weeks, of course she's going to miss family. But they're not there so deal with it. Tell her to hoover up the spiders 'till the bug man gets there to take her mind off of it.

If you've given up after 3 weeks then please come back and let somebody who is serious about emigrating have a go! The only let so many in each year, so somebody else has missed out now.

cinderella Oct 5th 2003 8:06 am

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 

Originally posted by SteveBannister
I've worked out that you've only got 1 option. DEAL WITH IT!

1. You THOUGHT there was plenty of work? THOUGHT? You take your family half way across the world and don't FIND OUT first? Newspapers, on-line agencies, never heard of these?

2. You must have missed all the threads about spiders then? There were only one or two a week! That's why man invented slippers! Get the bug man round and fumigate. Simple. Did you honestly expect no spiders in Melbourne?

3. It's been 3 weeks, of course she's going to miss family. But they're not there so deal with it. Tell her to hoover up the spiders 'till the bug man gets there to take her mind off of it.

If you've given up after 3 weeks then please come back and let somebody who is serious about emigrating have a go! The only let so many in each year, so somebody else has missed out now.
A bit harsh Mr Bannister. I think some moral support is needed, not a telling off.
:)

Brisgal Oct 5th 2003 8:23 am

HI Neil,

sorry to hear about your problems.

I have worked in the Telecomms field in Brisbane for the past 5 years (as a Prog / Trainer for Samsung). Work in this field has dried up somewhat with many companies shutting their doors due to competition from bigger multi/nationals. I heard from a mate who works for a large telecomms company in Melbourne that sales etc down there were terrible and he was scared of being made redundant. Might I suggest trying for a job with Telstra or Optus?? They are large companies that have a lot of different departments. What kind of work do you do??

AS for the spiders... as someone said once you fumigate they will be gone. Not nice I know, but once they are gone, that's it! You were unlucky to say the least.

Your poor wife, how I know homesickness (I moved to the UK in February) and felt homesick for my family and Brisbane terribly at first. Still after a while we got a webcam on both ends so I could see my family whenever I liked, made things easier. Once I had lived here a couple of months I felt ok. I had a job so went somewhere everyday where I had (and still do) contact with other people and am not stuck at home letting my homesickness take over. It is so normal for her to be feeling this way, I think most of us (bing human) feel the emotions compounded when we do something like move across the world, away from our 'comfort zone'.

3 weeks is too short IMO to make a rash decision. Once the spider situation is under control, you can start making your home feel like HOME! Try to integrate as much as possible and get out and about, don't sit at home and think of the UK, or you might as well have stayed put!

Remember the reasons you came to Oz in the first place....

good luck and persevere!!

BG

Jolyn Oct 5th 2003 12:55 pm

Hi Wolfens,

I'm really sorry you're both having a rough time. The first few weeks are always the worst as everyone has told you. Every little thing just seems like the last straw.

I've heard telecomms jobs are in short supply everywhere in the world right now. As everyone has advised - look for a job anywhere in Oz and move or else consider alternative job options until the market improves. Maybe a career change to go along with the new life?

By peak summer Melbourne suburbs and Sydney suburbs will be almost indistinguishable. And at least in Melbourne you can afford to live somewhere where it's possible to get to downtown in less than 1.5 hours. Your timing's just been a bit unfortunate. It's just the change of seasons that's awkward as Melbourne's weather lags behind Sydney's in the warming up and fineing up stakes. Everything will seem much better once the sun shines.

Spiders? Ugh. And I'm an Aussie. We had huge flying roaches in Sydney that used to scuttle around under the stairs at night making as much noise as mice. As the Daleks said: Exterminate! Exterminate! This is no time to think Green.

Best wishes and hope to see you there in a few weeks,

Jo

Ceri Oct 5th 2003 1:00 pm

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 

Originally posted by Wolfen
For those who remember us, we wrapped up the computer 4th Sept and I havnt been back on this board since.

We arrived in Melbourne 12th Sept and I has been a complete nightmare since.

We are on the verge of leaving because of various reasons.

1. We chose Melbourne because we thought that there would be plenty of work in my area (Telecomms). THERE ISNT. Now faced with the dilema of moving to Sydney.

2. House we are renting may be infested with White Tails. Spent till 04:00 last night catching them to stop the kids from being bitten. Pest control coming out on Monday. Because of this my wife Michelle, does not want anything to do with spiders anymore which makes the option of moving to sydney impossible.

3. Michelle is missing her family immensley and has nobody out here other then me to turn too. Compounded by all the other stuff its making it worse.

We have worked out that we have 3 options.

1. Cut our losses and go home.
2. I have the option of contracting in the USA.
3. We stick it out in Melbourne, hope something jobwise turns up and the white tails disappear

I suppose I`m looking for others that have moved to Aus and found it tough for one reason or another but have got through and come out the other end.

Any words of encouragement greatly accepted.

Neil
You say you are renting. Get on to the landlord/estate agent to have the house pest controlled - they must pay the money for it to be sprayed ,not you. I do not know the rights in your state but here in Queensland the landlord must annually pest control the house. Also the law is that the house must be "liveable" (which means in a fit state of repair , and not crawling with pests) . If it is infested by pests - you have rights! . The body which covers your rights is the RTA here in Queensland (not sure about Melbourne.. you'll have to check) . If it's just the odd spider - that is normal. But if like you say it is infested, there are laws protecting you. Go and get a handbook, or search the net for renting laws in Victoria. The landlord has a responsibility to rent out a house which is free from pests. You don't have to put up with a house which is infested by pests.

cheers

P>S about your other points.. give it a year and see how you both feel in a years time, I agree with the others who say three weeks is too short a time to make any decisions. Set yourself a time limit, like a year. If you still don't like it , well cut your losses and go .
Your problems like home sickness will not be solved by moving to another country. Look in your community paper for volunteer work for your wife, it's a good way of meeting people. .. The library should also have lists of organisations . http://www.rspcavic.org/ (always looking for volunteers from working in their shops to helping out in the kennels ) http://www.conservationvolunteers.com.au/ .
There are heaps of volunteer groups in Aus . Look in your paper, library or search the net.


Work wise - I haven't got a clue about jobs in your industry so I can't advise you. Have you checked the other states for vacancies in your line of work.

http://common.seek.com.au/jobsearch....iteKey=AUSMAIN

http://www.careerone.com.au/ (these cover most jobs that are also advertised in the major papers)

Good luck

Jolyn Oct 5th 2003 1:12 pm

The biggest site for IT jobs in Oz is jobnet:

www.jobnet.com.au

Have you looked on that site and set up a daily email of jobs? I just did a basic search for "telecom" (to pick up telecomms, telecommunications, etc) anywhere and came up with 175 jobs including contracts and some jobs outside Oz. 27 were in Melbourne - mostly Project Manager or Data Analyst but there was the odd technical job.

Good luck! :)

Wolfen Oct 5th 2003 2:57 pm

Re: And then it all went wrong!!!
 
Good job your not a f`$#king samaritan. Another tosser to add to my ignore list....

Thanks for nothing


Originally posted by SteveBannister
I've worked out that you've only got 1 option. DEAL WITH IT!

1. You THOUGHT there was plenty of work? THOUGHT? You take your family half way across the world and don't FIND OUT first? Newspapers, on-line agencies, never heard of these?

2. You must have missed all the threads about spiders then? There were only one or two a week! That's why man invented slippers! Get the bug man round and fumigate. Simple. Did you honestly expect no spiders in Melbourne?

3. It's been 3 weeks, of course she's going to miss family. But they're not there so deal with it. Tell her to hoover up the spiders 'till the bug man gets there to take her mind off of it.

If you've given up after 3 weeks then please come back and let somebody who is serious about emigrating have a go! The only let so many in each year, so somebody else has missed out now.

Wolfen Oct 5th 2003 3:00 pm

Thanks for the words of encouragement from everyone apart from tosser (bannister) and Meglamania.

I am normally strong and resilient but eventually there is only so much `everyone` can take.

I WILL get back on my feet

W

renth Oct 5th 2003 3:10 pm


Originally posted by Wolfen
Thanks for the words of encouragement from everyone apart from tosser (bannister) and Meglamania.

I am normally strong and resilient but eventually there is only so much `everyone` can take.

I WILL get back on my feet

W

Yeah,

That post from Bannister was way out of order. It reminded me of some of the dickheads at college telling me that some poor aspiring Hotel Manager couldn't persue their dream because I was taking up a place on a Catering course and had decided in the second year that I didn't want to go into the industry.

Give yourself a bit of time, I understand the weather has been pretty crap in Vic. Maybe go on holiday. Do you have kids? your Mrs will quickly make new friends through school.

Honestly mate, stick it out. Why not apply for some different work to tide you over?

Good luck ,

Dan

SteveBannister Oct 5th 2003 5:46 pm


Originally posted by Wolfen

I WILL get back on my feet
There you go, that's better!

Sorry for the short, sharp shock treatment, but it works!:D

Wolfen Oct 5th 2003 5:49 pm

I already had the `I will get back on my feet` mentality before you came along.... It wasnt a short, sharp shock treatment you gave out. It was heartless and pathetic.

At least I know I`m better than you.



Originally posted by SteveBannister
There you go, that's better!

Sorry for the short, sharp shock treatment, but it works!:D

karawara88 Oct 5th 2003 6:12 pm


Originally posted by SteveBannister
I've worked out that you've only got 1 option. DEAL WITH IT!
Well I think Wolfen is dealing with it. He posted on this forum, said how he felt and how things are for him.

This forum is for support, information and help. Wolfen is looking for support and advice from others. To me thats delaing with it.

It matters not how much research that you do nothing can prepare you for life here. You can look at the job situation and see loads of positions advertised, contact the agencies and the lying scum will tell you theres loads of jobs.

Reality is lots of people come here after being in the same job for years and now find themselves looking for work and marketing themselves for the first time in years thats without the interview. Its a different culture here. Not all of us are "top" of our proffessions not all of us are being head hunted, most are just normal working class gadgys.

You can be aware of spiders and nasties but nothing prepares you for an infestation. Nothing can prepare you for the size of a huntsman.

The winter weather can be diabolical but I dont think many realise how bad it can be.

Some of us are not coming here with piles of cash, we are not living mortgage free, we dont have the big boats, 4 wheel drives etc. (For those that do good on ya, you worked for it) but for the average person its not easy here and I doubt anyone thinks its easy.

At "home" you are dealing with one problem at a time, usually only one of you is down, here you stick a load of problems in the pot at the same time, no job, bad weather, wife not happy, kids not happy, accomodation not what you expected, area not what you thought etc etc. All that gets you down and to make it worse you are both miserable and maybe even the kids. Some days worse than others, you start to think what you left behind, why you did it etc. etc. etc. Normal feelings, but the difference is you have no mates to go and complain to. You dont have your favourite place or pub to chill out at.

So if you can't tell how you feel on this forum and have the support of others where can you go. We need the posts saying its working out for us, we need posts from those its not going right for, together we can get each other through the rough bits.

Wolfen remember this.

From out of the gloom a voice said unto me.
Smile and be happy, things could be worse,
So I smiled and was happy,
And behold things did get worse. !! :D :D

Almays makes me smile.

owieb Oct 5th 2003 6:41 pm


Originally posted by karawara88
Well I think Wolfen is dealing with it. He posted on this forum, said how he felt and how things are for him.

This forum is for support, information and help. Wolfen is looking for support and advice from others. To me thats delaing with it.

It matters not how much research that you do nothing can prepare you for life here. You can look at the job situation and see loads of positions advertised, contact the agencies and the lying scum will tell you theres loads of jobs.

Reality is lots of people come here after being in the same job for years and now find themselves looking for work and marketing themselves for the first time in years thats without the interview. Its a different culture here. Not all of us are "top" of our proffessions not all of us are being head hunted, most are just normal working class gadgys.

You can be aware of spiders and nasties but nothing prepares you for an infestation. Nothing can prepare you for the size of a huntsman.

The winter weather can be diabolical but I dont think many realise how bad it can be.

Some of us are not coming here with piles of cash, we are not living mortgage free, we dont have the big boats, 4 wheel drives etc. (For those that do good on ya, you worked for it) but for the average person its not easy here and I doubt anyone thinks its easy.

At "home" you are dealing with one problem at a time, usually only one of you is down, here you stick a load of problems in the pot at the same time, no job, bad weather, wife not happy, kids not happy, accomodation not what you expected, area not what you thought etc etc. All that gets you down and to make it worse you are both miserable and maybe even the kids. Some days worse than others, you start to think what you left behind, why you did it etc. etc. etc. Normal feelings, but the difference is you have no mates to go and complain to. You dont have your favourite place or pub to chill out at.

So if you can't tell how you feel on this forum and have the support of others where can you go. We need the posts saying its working out for us, we need posts from those its not going right for, together we can get each other through the rough bits.

Wolfen remember this.

From out of the gloom a voice said unto me.
Smile and be happy, things could be worse,
So I smiled and was happy,
And behold things did get worse. !! :D :D

Almays makes me smile.
Good post karawara88, but I do partly agree with what Mr Bannister is saying.

This forum is for support and information and the people who have been living here have been posting about how bad the job situation is, that winter weather can be miserable and how there are bugs and spiders (and even including pictures of them). But as we have seen time and time again people in the UK tend to ignore this information and merely put it down as whinging.

It's a shame that Wolfen hasn't had the "dream" start, but it will make others seriously think about the whole emigration process.

All credit to Wolfen for being honest and telling people how he is feeling; and given a bit of time I'm sure he will find his feet and everything will slot into place just like it has for many of us out here.

karawara88 Oct 5th 2003 7:20 pm


But as we have seen time and time again people in the UK tend to ignore this information and merely put it down as whinging.
You are right, we can but try.

But with a day like to day in Perth who wants to work. :)

sully4441 Oct 5th 2003 7:47 pm

Hi Wolfen,
glad to see from your posts that you are getting on top of your problems. Sorry to say it but I too thought a few weeks were a bit soon to be highlighting the negatives and talking of packing up. It will be tough, you don't have to have done it to know that. How tough is a different matter and only you can deal with it, as you will. I get homesick and restless after a week of a two week holiday! Stick with it. Take up the offer of get togethers, buy the webcam, be prepared for the crap days and make the most of the good days. Eventually there will be more good than bad. Report back in a few months. All the best. LMS (Samaritans am we)

Megalania Oct 5th 2003 7:50 pm


Originally posted by Wolfen
Thanks for the words of encouragement from everyone apart from tosser (bannister) and Meglamania.

I am normally strong and resilient but eventually there is only so much `everyone` can take.

I WILL get back on my feet

W
You're going to need to sharpen the elbows if you want to get to the feeding trough.


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