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I agree, Parramatta and the west are renowned to be a bit of a dump. You should take a drive around the North shore, Ryde, Epping, hills district are much nicer. We have the commodore Wagon (berlina 7 seater) V6 3.8L and think its great, we got a 3 seater settee in the back of ours!! sounds like you are having fun mate!
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Originally posted by badgersmount
the Parramatta region and parts of surburban Western Sydney, Parramatta Road and Victoria Road are some of the grimmest parts of the city so people shouldn't be duly put off by Sydney or Australia...by reading this.
if you get a Ford or a Commodore make sure you get decent tyres on them. They, the rentals especially, will fishtail in the wet very easily. Not a bad car really.
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the Parramatta region and parts of surburban Western Sydney, Parramatta Road and Victoria Road are some of the grimmest parts of the city so people shouldn't be duly put off by Sydney or Australia...by reading this.
if you get a Ford or a Commodore make sure you get decent tyres on them. They, the rentals especially, will fishtail in the wet very easily. Not a bad car really.
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Tyres have sod all to do with it rear wheel drive is shite on Aussie roads in the wet as for Falcons and crapadores give them a wide berth they lose value quicker than the rubber dollar.
The Australian tourism board gave its view last week that Sydney looks tired , nackered is more like it.
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It ain't the cars mate, its the drivers. People that live round here just haven't got a clue how to drive in the wet, but then it ain't that wet here so they don't get much practice!!
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Tyres have sod all to do with it rear wheel drive is shite on Aussie roads in the wet as for Falcons and crapadores give them a wide berth they lose value quicker than the rubber dollar.
The Australian tourism board gave its view last week that Sydney looks tired , nackered is more like it.
Tyres have sod all to do with it rear wheel drive is shite on Aussie roads in the wet as for Falcons and crapadores give them a wide berth they lose value quicker than the rubber dollar.
The Australian tourism board gave its view last week that Sydney looks tired , nackered is more like it.
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Originally posted by Mandy Bale
I agree, Parramatta and the west are renowned to be a bit of a dump. You should take a drive around the North shore, Ryde, Epping, hills district are much nicer. We have the commodore Wagon (berlina 7 seater) V6 3.8L and think its great, we got a 3 seater settee in the back of ours!! sounds like you are having fun mate!
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I agree, Parramatta and the west are renowned to be a bit of a dump. You should take a drive around the North shore, Ryde, Epping, hills district are much nicer. We have the commodore Wagon (berlina 7 seater) V6 3.8L and think its great, we got a 3 seater settee in the back of ours!! sounds like you are having fun mate!
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I found Parramatta OK, but we were on holiday, didn't have to travel in the rush hours. We took the water taxi into Sydney, most pleasant way to travel.
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Originally posted by Mandy Bale
It ain't the cars mate, its the drivers. People that live round here just haven't got a clue how to drive in the wet, but then it ain't that wet here so they don't get much practice!!
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It ain't the cars mate, its the drivers. People that live round here just haven't got a clue how to drive in the wet, but then it ain't that wet here so they don't get much practice!!
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The big factor is over powered rear drive Automatic's , its out dated as are Aussie cars.
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drivers in Australia are prats .
drivers in Australia are prats .
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Originally posted by Florida_03
good-looking prats, thank you...
good-looking prats, thank you...
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Originally posted by pommie bastard
Australians are crap drivers
Australians are crap drivers
Did not have same experience in Scotland, so am specifying "English" drivers - or maybe they were all just foreigners in rented cars
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Useful info, thanks - If everything goes to plan (i.e. visas) we'll be in Sydney early in the new year following a 'scouting mission' in October - I must admit I have mentally 'crossed off' Parramatta from earlier comments - and you've reinforced the view.
I'd had the same idea with regards to opening a HSBC account, as I've been with Midland/First Direct over in the UK. Interesting you say there is no benefit and they cocked up.
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I'd had the same idea with regards to opening a HSBC account, as I've been with Midland/First Direct over in the UK. Interesting you say there is no benefit and they cocked up.
Keep up the postings
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The western suburbs of Sydney (starting just before Parramatta) are definitely not the place to live. You've definitely started in the worst place for ugliness.
Depending on your commute and how much work will cough up for the rent:
Balmain - beautiful, expensive, OK schools, the Hampstead of Sydney
Eastern suburbs by the beach - Bronte, Clovelly, Vaucluse great but seriously pricey
North Shore - stay on the east, no further west than Ryde, no further north than Wahroonga. Many great family suburbs - Lane Cove, Roseville, Lindfield, Killara, Gordon, Turramurra or further east near beach.
North West - wouldn't be my first choice as you miss out on a lot of the Sydney experience but some of the Hills areas are OK. Stay well north of Blacktown.
South - fine once you cross Botany Bay - Cronulla, Illawong, Oyster Bay.
South West - avoid.
Far West - OK again from Penrith outwards into Blue Mountains.
Depending on your commute and how much work will cough up for the rent:
Balmain - beautiful, expensive, OK schools, the Hampstead of Sydney
Eastern suburbs by the beach - Bronte, Clovelly, Vaucluse great but seriously pricey
North Shore - stay on the east, no further west than Ryde, no further north than Wahroonga. Many great family suburbs - Lane Cove, Roseville, Lindfield, Killara, Gordon, Turramurra or further east near beach.
North West - wouldn't be my first choice as you miss out on a lot of the Sydney experience but some of the Hills areas are OK. Stay well north of Blacktown.
South - fine once you cross Botany Bay - Cronulla, Illawong, Oyster Bay.
South West - avoid.
Far West - OK again from Penrith outwards into Blue Mountains.
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Originally posted by Jolyn
The western suburbs of Sydney (starting just before Parramatta) are definitely not the place to live. You've definitely started in the worst place for ugliness......
The western suburbs of Sydney (starting just before Parramatta) are definitely not the place to live. You've definitely started in the worst place for ugliness......
That's the sort of info I'm after! Thanks!
But if you're in London now and soon to be in Melbourne how did you find this out about Sydney? Insider info?
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I'm actually Australian - from Sydney. Sorry, should have mentioned that. Been in London 12 years, now off to Melbourne with British husband and son.
Good luck finding a great place.
Good luck finding a great place.
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Originally posted by Jolyn
The western suburbs of Sydney (starting just before Parramatta) are definitely not the place to live. You've definitely started in the worst place for ugliness.
Depending on your commute and how much work will cough up for the rent:
Balmain - beautiful, expensive, OK schools, the Hampstead of Sydney
Eastern suburbs by the beach - Bronte, Clovelly, Vaucluse great but seriously pricey
North Shore - stay on the east, no further west than Ryde, no further north than Wahroonga. Many great family suburbs - Lane Cove, Roseville, Lindfield, Killara, Gordon, Turramurra or further east near beach.
North West - wouldn't be my first choice as you miss out on a lot of the Sydney experience but some of the Hills areas are OK. Stay well north of Blacktown.
South - fine once you cross Botany Bay - Cronulla, Illawong, Oyster Bay.
South West - avoid.
Far West - OK again from Penrith outwards into Blue Mountains.
The western suburbs of Sydney (starting just before Parramatta) are definitely not the place to live. You've definitely started in the worst place for ugliness.
Depending on your commute and how much work will cough up for the rent:
Balmain - beautiful, expensive, OK schools, the Hampstead of Sydney
Eastern suburbs by the beach - Bronte, Clovelly, Vaucluse great but seriously pricey
North Shore - stay on the east, no further west than Ryde, no further north than Wahroonga. Many great family suburbs - Lane Cove, Roseville, Lindfield, Killara, Gordon, Turramurra or further east near beach.
North West - wouldn't be my first choice as you miss out on a lot of the Sydney experience but some of the Hills areas are OK. Stay well north of Blacktown.
South - fine once you cross Botany Bay - Cronulla, Illawong, Oyster Bay.
South West - avoid.
Far West - OK again from Penrith outwards into Blue Mountains.
We opted for lower north shore (mosman then north sydney) and paying a third of our income over in rent every month (like we do in London!).
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Western Sydney has a bad rep. The residents are known as "Westies". Mt Druitt, Parramatta, Blacktown etc are probably the worst. Lakemba is Lebanese and the local police station there was recently shot up. According to channel 9s Today show, ASIO has the streets of Lakemba wired like a Christmas tree trying to keep track of several Islamic fundamentalist groups based there.
Cabramatta AKA Vietnamatta, is Sydney's heroin central. Needles galore in the streets.
Best bet is north or south, although the Lucas Hts nuclear reactor is in the sth and was singled out at a terrorist target by a group that were caught in Auckland by the NZ police.
East is the nicest but you will pay.
Avoid the west. Not only is it endless sprawl of grafitti covered brick apartments and units filled with rough as guts people and solo mothers but it has the worst smog in Sydney and the highest asthma rates.
I wouldn't go west of Strathfield.
Sydney does have traffic that I've heard LA people say is bad. Be aware of flight paths. Most bushfires occur in the outer northern suburbs. Other than all of that Sydney is a great place to live. :-)
Cabramatta AKA Vietnamatta, is Sydney's heroin central. Needles galore in the streets.
Best bet is north or south, although the Lucas Hts nuclear reactor is in the sth and was singled out at a terrorist target by a group that were caught in Auckland by the NZ police.
East is the nicest but you will pay.
Avoid the west. Not only is it endless sprawl of grafitti covered brick apartments and units filled with rough as guts people and solo mothers but it has the worst smog in Sydney and the highest asthma rates.
I wouldn't go west of Strathfield.
Sydney does have traffic that I've heard LA people say is bad. Be aware of flight paths. Most bushfires occur in the outer northern suburbs. Other than all of that Sydney is a great place to live. :-)
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'Most bushfires occur in the outer northern suburbs'
Wouldn't worry about that now though, most of it was burnt out last year!!
I think the views on the traffic problems all depends on where you come from in the UK and where you are in Sydney. I come from the South East of London and I find the traffic no problem at all here, rush hour seems to be just for an hour. I have spent a bit of time in rush hour in Aberdeen, Scotland, and I think this is comparable in my view, other people may have different views, thats just the way i see it. But then I have only experienced the rush hour from the city to the north/west. I think it is worst out to the west and down to the south.
Mandy
Wouldn't worry about that now though, most of it was burnt out last year!!
I think the views on the traffic problems all depends on where you come from in the UK and where you are in Sydney. I come from the South East of London and I find the traffic no problem at all here, rush hour seems to be just for an hour. I have spent a bit of time in rush hour in Aberdeen, Scotland, and I think this is comparable in my view, other people may have different views, thats just the way i see it. But then I have only experienced the rush hour from the city to the north/west. I think it is worst out to the west and down to the south.
Mandy
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