Sydney City Problems
#1
Sydney City Problems
For you guys who are currently living in Sydney I currently see two main problems :
1. The current water crisis
2. Number of People arriving in Sydney (about 1,000 a week)
Anyone been thinking about these ????
1. The current water crisis
2. Number of People arriving in Sydney (about 1,000 a week)
Anyone been thinking about these ????
#2
Re: Sydney City Problems
Hi, we've been in Sydney about a year. To answer your questions.
1. I do think the water shortages are worrying - but to start with we are not obsessed with having a really green front lawn. We use a third of the amount of water compared to the previous owners of our house, according to the water bill. When we visited country NSW toward Jindabyne - they were saying that they'd had a total water ban for 2 years - so I hope it doesn't get that bad.
2. I haven't noticed that there are 1000 arrivals each week in Sydney. It just depends where you live - Sydney is a huge sprawl, really.
Neither of these items affected our decision. We liked the city, some of the suburbs, beaches and national parks of Sydney and thought we would have a better chance of getting good jobs here.
1. I do think the water shortages are worrying - but to start with we are not obsessed with having a really green front lawn. We use a third of the amount of water compared to the previous owners of our house, according to the water bill. When we visited country NSW toward Jindabyne - they were saying that they'd had a total water ban for 2 years - so I hope it doesn't get that bad.
2. I haven't noticed that there are 1000 arrivals each week in Sydney. It just depends where you live - Sydney is a huge sprawl, really.
Neither of these items affected our decision. We liked the city, some of the suburbs, beaches and national parks of Sydney and thought we would have a better chance of getting good jobs here.
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Re: Sydney City Problems
Originally Posted by suzysu
For you guys who are currently living in Sydney I currently
2. Number of People arriving in Sydney (about 1,000 a week)
Anyone been thinking about these ????
2. Number of People arriving in Sydney (about 1,000 a week)
Anyone been thinking about these ????
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Re: Sydney City Problems
Originally Posted by soapy
hope they dont all turn up to the expats meet next week
Yeah I hope not !!!!
But I do think there is going to be a big water problem in Sydney after the summer, look at this and see why :
http://www.sydneywater.com.au/Public...strictions.pdf
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Re: Sydney City Problems
Originally Posted by rapitts
Yeah I hope not !!!!
But I do think there is going to be a big water problem in Sydney after the summer, look at this and see why :
http://www.sydneywater.com.au/Public...strictions.pdf
But I do think there is going to be a big water problem in Sydney after the summer, look at this and see why :
http://www.sydneywater.com.au/Public...strictions.pdf
#6
Re: Sydney City Problems
Originally Posted by suzysu
For you guys who are currently living in Sydney I currently see two main problems :
1. The current water crisis
2. Number of People arriving in Sydney (about 1,000 a week)
Anyone been thinking about these ????
1. The current water crisis
2. Number of People arriving in Sydney (about 1,000 a week)
Anyone been thinking about these ????
#7
Re: Sydney City Problems
Originally Posted by nickyc
The water levels are low right now, but they've been low before and they'll be low again. And in between those times we'll get rain and floods that'll fill up the dams. Water is not a new problem for Sydney, it's always like this and water restrictions are not uncommon. And don't forget that Sydney gets most of its rain in summer.
- a lot of Sydney's rain just falls on the coastal strip and not in the Blue Mountains where the dams and catchment areas are. My understanding is that rain in the mountains is less frequent but very intense when it does come.
- A specific problem that Sydney has with its dam is the over-reliance on one large dam (Warragamba) that supplies about 80% of Sydney's water. This dam seems to be conveniently located in the driest part of the region and if you believe Sydney Water it's hasn't rained in the area for years.
- A few years ago they spent about AUD150m protecting the Warragamba Dam against a flood by installing a new overflow channel. That sits rather forlorn at the moment with the dam levels so low, however when the rain does come the dam will rise rapidly.
- Most of Australia's water is used for industry and agriculture, not domestic purposes. In parts of NSW cotton and rice is grown using irrigated water. This is complete insanity on the driest continent - it would make a lot more sense just to import the rice from countries more suited to growing it (or grow it in northern Australia where there is plenty of water) and save the water for other uses in NSW and Victoria.
- Droughts and floods are normal events in Australia and the climate should not be viewed with European prejudices. When you listen to politicians like Mr Carr moaning about water shortages and drought you'd think it was the first time Australia had experienced something like this. The reality is that 'European' weather is the exception rather than the rule in most of Australia.
Jeremy
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Re: Sydney City Problems
Originally Posted by JAJ
... if you believe Sydney Water it's hasn't rained in the [Warragamba] area for years.
Originally Posted by JAJ
... a lot of Sydney's rain just falls on the coastal strip and not in the Blue Mountains where the dams and catchment areas are. My understanding is that rain in the mountains is less frequent but very intense when it does come.
Originally Posted by JAJ
A specific problem that Sydney has with its dam is the over-reliance on one large dam (Warragamba) that supplies about 80% of Sydney's water ...
Water supply is, in my view, a problem that is going to have to be faced very soon by the NSW government and the people of Sydney. Whether this involves new dams, recycling of waste water either for all uses or for some uses, desalination of the sea(!), piping water in from elsewhere, or a combination of some of these things is a different question.
As JAJ says too, Australia - not just Sydney - needs to re-think its use of water generally: and the practice of growing rice in semidesert conditions at places like Bourke is a good example.
Last edited by CPW; Sep 20th 2004 at 1:00 pm.
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Re: Sydney City Problems
Climate change is happening and affecting Australia.
But I do worry that if the drought keeps going for another 6 months then Sydney is going to be in big trouble.
You would think that the goverment would invest in desalination plants which is what saudi araba does for water.
Well hopefully it will rain for a few days like it used to !!!!!!
But I do worry that if the drought keeps going for another 6 months then Sydney is going to be in big trouble.
You would think that the goverment would invest in desalination plants which is what saudi araba does for water.
Well hopefully it will rain for a few days like it used to !!!!!!
#10
Re: Sydney City Problems
Originally Posted by rapitts
Climate change is happening and affecting Australia.
You would think that the goverment would invest in desalination plants which is what saudi araba does for water.
You would think that the goverment would invest in desalination plants which is what saudi araba does for water.
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Re: Sydney City Problems
Originally Posted by chocaholic
Unfortunately Australia does not produce 8 million barrels of crude a day - to help finance such plants. Any idea how much that would cost?? Expensive, I bet.
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Re: Sydney City Problems
Originally Posted by chocaholic
Unfortunately Australia does not produce 8 million barrels of crude a day - to help finance such plants. Any idea how much that would cost?? Expensive, I bet.
#13
Re: Sydney City Problems
[QUOTE=rapitts
You would think that the goverment would invest in desalination plants which is what saudi araba does for water.[/QUOTE]
Saudi Arabia has no permanent rivers, lakes or surface water of any kind. So desalinisation plants are an only resort. And the water produced is so expensive it's practically worth it's weight in gold!
Los Ninos of recent years look set to exacerbate Aus's natural cycle of wets & droughts. Aus will have to start looking at long term practical solutions, not least water conservation by industry & agriculture.
I'm a Bill Mollison fan myself......
You would think that the goverment would invest in desalination plants which is what saudi araba does for water.[/QUOTE]
Saudi Arabia has no permanent rivers, lakes or surface water of any kind. So desalinisation plants are an only resort. And the water produced is so expensive it's practically worth it's weight in gold!
Los Ninos of recent years look set to exacerbate Aus's natural cycle of wets & droughts. Aus will have to start looking at long term practical solutions, not least water conservation by industry & agriculture.
I'm a Bill Mollison fan myself......