Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
Aug 30th 2010, 8:28 am
#241
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,442
Re: Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
A dog that bites the hand that feeds it...
http://gunfieldvizslas.myfineforum.org/ftopic333-0.php
Aug 30th 2010, 8:51 am
#243
Account Closed
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,188
Re: Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
"Today we took our 14mth vizsla oscar to training, with a problem of pulling on the lead, the session was really sucessful and i felt we were doing well, oscars obedience was excellent, and i was rea;;y proud of him. On our return i cooked a sunday roast, oscar had his dinner, i took out the chicken , took off the fat and placed it back in the oven. Oscar came up close, i went to pat him, whereby he snarled, and bit me which drew blood. I ordered him on his bed, and hit him on the nose. After the shock i puti him outside and ostracised him for half an hour, then i told him to go to his bed, ostracised from us both. I feel shocked and upset, as i have never owned a dog which has bitten me, i got him to enjoy, not battle with, does anyone have some advice on the way forward, as i now feel maybe he is not for us!"
A dog that bites the hand that feeds it...
http://gunfieldvizslas.myfineforum.org/ftopic333-0.php
A dog that bites the hand that feeds it...
http://gunfieldvizslas.myfineforum.org/ftopic333-0.php
Now go to Google and put in "killed by pitbull". Keep it in quotes otherwise the list is endless. In quotes there are only 18,600 hits
Then try "killed by vizsla". 109 hits and all seem to relate to Star Wars.
God those Vizsla are awfully dangerous.
Aug 30th 2010, 8:58 am
#245
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,442
Re: Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
Well done mate. I'm impressed. One
Now go to Google and put in "killed by pitbull". Keep it in quotes otherwise the list is endless. In quotes there are only 18,600 hits
Then try "killed by vizsla". 109 hits and all seem to relate to Star Wars.
God those Vizsla are awfully dangerous.
Now go to Google and put in "killed by pitbull". Keep it in quotes otherwise the list is endless. In quotes there are only 18,600 hits
Then try "killed by vizsla". 109 hits and all seem to relate to Star Wars.
God those Vizsla are awfully dangerous.
The common theme with Vizsla aggression is that they tend to attack their owners, which is something Pitbulls don't do.
Aug 30th 2010, 9:21 am
#247
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 23,400
Re: Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
Well done mate. I'm impressed. One
Now go to Google and put in "killed by pitbull". Keep it in quotes otherwise the list is endless. In quotes there are only 18,600 hits
Then try "killed by vizsla". 109 hits and all seem to relate to Star Wars.
God those Vizsla are awfully dangerous.
Now go to Google and put in "killed by pitbull". Keep it in quotes otherwise the list is endless. In quotes there are only 18,600 hits
Then try "killed by vizsla". 109 hits and all seem to relate to Star Wars.
God those Vizsla are awfully dangerous.
"Never leave pit bulls alone with other dogs (or any animal). Even if you're dog gets along great 99.9% of the time with other animals the Pit Bull is known for animal aggression and it is possible something will happen. A good piece of advice I received a long time ago was, Never trust your Pit Bull not to fight"
To me that sums it up - 'never trust your pit bull not to fight' and 'the pit bull is known for animal aggression'
In another section they compare the pitbull to the greyhound as in the greyhound is good with humans but not cats and the pitbull is good with humans but not other animals.
Except when breeds of this type have gone for humans they have not only previously been good with humans but once they attack, they are incredibly difficult to get off.
And that is the worry.
Aug 30th 2010, 11:27 am
#248
Account Closed
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,188
Re: Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
[QUOTE=Deancm_MKII;8812503]
Jesus, I can understand now why the 'Godzoners' got utterly pissed off with you. Your ability to ignore facts is staggering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ported_in_2009
Review that list again. Check on just how many of them say Pitbull and killed by families dog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ported_in_2009
Review that list again. Check on just how many of them say Pitbull and killed by families dog.
Last edited by iamthecreaturefromuranus; Aug 30th 2010 at 12:03 pm.
Aug 30th 2010, 11:52 am
#249
Gutter Gob!!
Joined: Feb 2005
Location: Perth
Posts: 13,098
Re: Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
Jesus, I can understand now why the Godzoners got utterly pissed off with you. Your ability to ignore facts is staggering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ported_in_2009
Review that list again. Check on just how many of them say Pitbull and killed by families dog.
Last edited by northernbird; Aug 30th 2010 at 1:21 pm. Reason: fixed quote
Aug 30th 2010, 12:21 pm
#252
BE Forum Addict
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 2,442
Re: Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
Jesus, I can understand now why the Godzoners got utterly pissed off with you. Your ability to ignore facts is staggering.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ported_in_2009
Review that list again. Check on just how many of them say Pitbull and killed by families dog.
1) The information is gathered from news reports (and we know how sensationalist and accurate news reports are
)2) breed identification requires a subjective evaluation based on observation of outward physical attributes against imprecise breed standards
Or in other words, there is no actual evidence as to the accuracy or to the actual breed involved.
In any case, in a country such as the US with a population of c310,000,000 and an average 'pitbull type' fatality of about 16 per year, there is more chance of getting struck by lightning and in the US 80 ppl are fatally struck by lightning every year.
The chance of a pitbull fatality is next to non-existent. The only thing to fear is fear itself.
Next you will be telling us you are scared of your own shadow.
Aug 30th 2010, 2:59 pm
#253
Forum Regular
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 63
Re: Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
OK, from that wikipedia page it states:
1) The information is gathered from news reports (and we know how sensationalist and accurate news reports are)
2) breed identification requires a subjective evaluation based on observation of outward physical attributes against imprecise breed standards
Or in other words, there is no actual evidence as to the accuracy or to the actual breed involved.
In any case, in a country such as the US with a population of c310,000,000 and an average 'pitbull type' fatality of about 16 per year, there is more chance of getting struck by lightning and in the US 80 ppl are fatally struck by lightning every year.
The chance of a pitbull fatality is next to non-existent. The only thing to fear is fear itself.
Next you will be telling us you are scared of your own shadow.
1) The information is gathered from news reports (and we know how sensationalist and accurate news reports are
)2) breed identification requires a subjective evaluation based on observation of outward physical attributes against imprecise breed standards
Or in other words, there is no actual evidence as to the accuracy or to the actual breed involved.
In any case, in a country such as the US with a population of c310,000,000 and an average 'pitbull type' fatality of about 16 per year, there is more chance of getting struck by lightning and in the US 80 ppl are fatally struck by lightning every year.
The chance of a pitbull fatality is next to non-existent. The only thing to fear is fear itself.
Next you will be telling us you are scared of your own shadow.
Anyway, back to the Staffs, an experts view
RSPCA chief vet Mark Evans said:
"Staffies have had a terrible press, but this is not of their own making -
in fact they're wonderful dogs.
If people think that Staffies have problems,
they're looking at the wrong end of the dog lead!"
"When well cared for and properly trained they can make brilliant companions.
Our experience suggests that problems occur when bad owners exploit the Staffie's
desire to please by training them to show aggression
Aug 30th 2010, 5:25 pm
#254
BE Enthusiast
Joined: Jun 2005
Location: Currambine
Posts: 810
Re: Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
And Approx 16-17 thousand murders in the US each year. Humans are far more deadly than any dog.
Anyway, back to the Staffs, an experts view
RSPCA chief vet Mark Evans said:
"Staffies have had a terrible press, but this is not of their own making -
in fact they're wonderful dogs.
If people think that Staffies have problems,
they're looking at the wrong end of the dog lead!"
"When well cared for and properly trained they can make brilliant companions.
Our experience suggests that problems occur when bad owners exploit the Staffie's
desire to please by training them to show aggression
Anyway, back to the Staffs, an experts view
RSPCA chief vet Mark Evans said:
"Staffies have had a terrible press, but this is not of their own making -
in fact they're wonderful dogs.
If people think that Staffies have problems,
they're looking at the wrong end of the dog lead!"
"When well cared for and properly trained they can make brilliant companions.
Our experience suggests that problems occur when bad owners exploit the Staffie's
desire to please by training them to show aggression
Aug 30th 2010, 8:37 pm
#255
Account Closed
Joined: Jul 2006
Posts: 14,188
Re: Staffordshire Bull Terriers in Australia
OK, from that wikipedia page it states:
1) The information is gathered from news reports (and we know how sensationalist and accurate news reports are)
2) breed identification requires a subjective evaluation based on observation of outward physical attributes against imprecise breed standards
Or in other words, there is no actual evidence as to the accuracy or to the actual breed involved.
In any case, in a country such as the US with a population of c310,000,000 and an average 'pitbull type' fatality of about 16 per year, there is more chance of getting struck by lightning and in the US 80 ppl are fatally struck by lightning every year.
The chance of a pitbull fatality is next to non-existent. The only thing to fear is fear itself.
Next you will be telling us you are scared of your own shadow.
1) The information is gathered from news reports (and we know how sensationalist and accurate news reports are
)2) breed identification requires a subjective evaluation based on observation of outward physical attributes against imprecise breed standards
Or in other words, there is no actual evidence as to the accuracy or to the actual breed involved.
In any case, in a country such as the US with a population of c310,000,000 and an average 'pitbull type' fatality of about 16 per year, there is more chance of getting struck by lightning and in the US 80 ppl are fatally struck by lightning every year.
The chance of a pitbull fatality is next to non-existent. The only thing to fear is fear itself.
Next you will be telling us you are scared of your own shadow.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/e...de/6222319.stm
and these
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/...in699664.shtml
and finally these.
I'm loath to make a point out of people's grief, but take a close look at the faces of the people here. Try bullshitting these people with sort of crap you have been coming out with.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...slaughter.html
Finally, comparing dangerous dogs to lightning is infantile.... at best.
Last edited by iamthecreaturefromuranus; Aug 30th 2010 at 8:41 pm.