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Nomore Jun 6th 2007 2:56 pm

Speed Cameras
 
I have been lucky so far....apart from yesterday, got flashed by a camera for the first time in a year in OZ...

What will happen now? how many points will i get? and how much will the fine be?

I was doing 75km in a 70km area.

worzel Jun 6th 2007 3:03 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4882846)
I have been lucky so far....apart from yesterday, got flashed by a camera for the first time in a year in OZ...

What will happen now? how many points will i get? and how much will the fine be?

I was doing 75km in a 70km area.

I think that is $50 but no points.

northernbird Jun 6th 2007 3:03 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4882846)
I have been lucky so far....apart from yesterday, got flashed by a camera for the first time in a year in OZ...

What will happen now? how many points will i get? and how much will the fine be?

I was doing 75km in a 70km area.

I got done for 87 in a 70 and got $100 fine and 1 demerit point

Nomore Jun 6th 2007 3:06 pm

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Also forgot to add that i was on the outside lane. There was another car at the side of me. I was slightly in front (only just).
Will the camera still have picked up on me do you think?

Amazulu Jun 6th 2007 3:07 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4882846)
I have been lucky so far....apart from yesterday, got flashed by a camera for the first time in a year in OZ...

What will happen now? how many points will i get? and how much will the fine be?

I was doing 75km in a 70km area.

At the moment the notice will take up to 6 months before you get it. I got snapped in October and got the notification in March.

kmtsst Jun 6th 2007 3:16 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4882864)
Also forgot to add that i was on the outside lane. There was another car at the side of me. I was slightly in front (only just).
Will the camera still have picked up on me do you think?

I was going at 85 in a 80 area was on the inside and there was another car on the outside lane .that was back in oct never got anything :) My sis is a copper and reckons i didnt hear anything cause i was in the inside lane and can only fine 1 car at the time .

worzel Jun 6th 2007 3:19 pm

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 4882859)
I got done for 87 in a 70 and got $100 fine and 1 demerit point

It goes up in bands of 10km. I was 11km over and got the same as you. Under 10km it is only $50. Over 20km and I think the points are 3.

worzel Jun 6th 2007 3:20 pm

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Originally Posted by Amazulu (Post 4882870)
At the moment the notice will take up to 6 months before you get it. I got snapped in October and got the notification in March.

I got mine just after 5 months later. I thought they had put more staff on it to bring the wait down?

framac Jun 6th 2007 6:53 pm

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Just thought i would add my husband just recieved a nice letter and photo of his lovely car and to TOP that a fine of $150.00 just today and he was only caught on camera last saturday doing 73km on a 60km but no points on his licence, first time for everything i suppose... Oh Happy Days. sorry just noticed he has 3 points... so not so Happy Days then

auspal Jun 7th 2007 11:40 am

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4882846)
I have been lucky so far....apart from yesterday, got flashed by a camera for the first time in a year in OZ...

What will happen now? how many points will i get? and how much will the fine be?

I was doing 75km in a 70km area.

Not sure which state you are in , its different depending on where you live.
I think 5km over is a bit harsh for a fine, dont be surprised if it was someone else getting flashed.

moneypenny20 Jun 7th 2007 12:07 pm

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Originally Posted by auspal (Post 4887517)
Not sure which state you are in , its different depending on where you live.
I think 5km over is a bit harsh for a fine, dont be surprised if it was someone else getting flashed.

Where do they draw the line though. The machine is presumably set to catch anyone over that particular speed limit. They don't take into account fluctuations in the speedometer in the car over here so if the camera goes off you get a fine. I imagine the fixed camera set up is all computer generated anyway so no humans involved. Someone will tell me if I'm wrong:D

Nomore Jun 7th 2007 1:25 pm

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Originally Posted by auspal (Post 4887517)
Not sure which state you are in , its different depending on where you live.
I think 5km over is a bit harsh for a fine, dont be surprised if it was someone else getting flashed.

I'm in Perth.
It was one of those supanova cameras hidden in the bushes:sneaky:

My hubby has one of those machines that detect speed cameras. Without that he would have lost his licence months ago. He is on the road all day everyday, best thing invented;)

andrew63 Jun 7th 2007 1:53 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 4887636)
Where do they draw the line though. The machine is presumably set to catch anyone over that particular speed limit. They don't take into account fluctuations in the speedometer in the car over here so if the camera goes off you get a fine. I imagine the fixed camera set up is all computer generated anyway so no humans involved. Someone will tell me if I'm wrong:D

As far as I know, in the UK it is a given that your speedo can be 5% out and the police camera can be 5% out thus you can typically get away with 10% over the speed limit.

Over here, they can fine you for doing 102 kmh in a 100 limit. You are very welcome to contest the accuracy of your speedo and/or the police camera in Court. Smart eh!

I personally know how to outsmart the police and their sneaky revenue raising hidden camera tactics - I stick to the speed limit!

That makes me smarter!

Andrew

moneypenny20 Jun 7th 2007 2:50 pm

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Agreed but others don't.

Siren & Brian Jun 7th 2007 6:17 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4882864)
Also forgot to add that i was on the outside lane. There was another car at the side of me. I was slightly in front (only just).
Will the camera still have picked up on me do you think?

Not 100% sure but I think that if two cars side by side in photo that neither will get a ticket.

Nomore Jun 7th 2007 6:21 pm

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Originally Posted by Siren & Brian (Post 4888348)
Not 100% sure but I think that if two cars side by side in photo that neither will get a ticket.

Really. Hope so. Looks like i will have to wait months though to find out.

Siren & Brian Jun 7th 2007 6:30 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4888353)
Really. Hope so. Looks like i will have to wait months though to find out.

Well I heard it on Talkback radio only a few days ago from one of the top cops in WA.

Vim Fuego Jun 7th 2007 6:34 pm

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Originally Posted by andrew63 (Post 4887877)
As far as I know, in the UK it is a given that your speedo can be 5% out and the police camera can be 5% out thus you can typically get away with 10% over the speed limit.

Over here, they can fine you for doing 102 kmh in a 100 limit. You are very welcome to contest the accuracy of your speedo and/or the police camera in Court. Smart eh!

I personally know how to outsmart the police and their sneaky revenue raising hidden camera tactics - I stick to the speed limit!

That makes me smarter!

Andrew

I'm not questioning your logic Andrew, for me the best way of avoiding the fine is not to speed ... but ...

Given the 5% error margin on the speedo and 5% on the gun then how do you know you are sticking to the limit? Surely the only safe course of action is to do 10% below the limit?

This begs the question, are speedos (not budgie smugglers!)/guns calibrated more strictly in Oz compared to the UK?

Vim Fuego Jun 7th 2007 6:35 pm

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Originally Posted by Siren & Brian (Post 4888348)
Not 100% sure but I think that if two cars side by side in photo that neither will get a ticket.

I've just spotted a gap in the market for side-car-cars ... coming soon to a Supercheap near you ...

Nomore Jun 7th 2007 6:37 pm

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Originally Posted by Vim Fuego (Post 4888393)
I've just spotted a gap in the market for side-car-cars ... coming soon to a Supercheap near you ...

Gonna need bigger roads:rofl:

moneypenny20 Jun 7th 2007 6:45 pm

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When I'm using TomTom, once I am going faster than 60, the speedo on the car is different from the speed shown on tomtom. Would tomx2 be more correct than the car? It's what I assume anyway.

Vim Fuego Jun 7th 2007 6:53 pm

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Originally Posted by moneypen20 (Post 4888416)
When I'm using TomTom, once I am going faster than 60, the speedo on the car is different from the speed shown on tomtom. Would tomx2 be more correct than the car? It's what I assume anyway.

TomTom? I still navigate by the stars ... it's got me into some awful scrapes I can tell you (like the time I followed that comet, how we laughed) ... and I tend to be a nocturnal creature.

Gut feeling? I'd say GPS + more technology than the shuttle = more accurate than speedo. BUT is it straight line speed averaged over a period of time? These questions need to be answered ... or not :p

leigh&ivan Jun 7th 2007 7:34 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4882846)
I have been lucky so far....apart from yesterday, got flashed by a camera for the first time in a year in OZ...

What will happen now? how many points will i get? and how much will the fine be?

I was doing 75km in a 70km area.

Don't worry about it, they'll see you were the nice person that handed $400 to their fund the other day & let you off :lol:

moneypenny20 Jun 7th 2007 7:37 pm

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Originally Posted by Vim Fuego (Post 4888434)
TomTom? I still navigate by the stars ... it's got me into some awful scrapes I can tell you (like the time I followed that comet, how we laughed) ... and I tend to be a nocturnal creature.

Gut feeling? I'd say GPS + more technology than the shuttle = more accurate than speedo. BUT is it straight line speed averaged over a period of time? These questions need to be answered ... or not :p

You must have come unstuck when you got down here. Frantically looking for the north star:lol:

kmtsst Jun 7th 2007 8:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Siren & Brian (Post 4888348)
Not 100% sure but I think that if two cars side by side in photo that neither will get a ticket.

thats what my sis told me but if the car on the outside is quite a bit in front then they will get the ticket.But how far is quite a bit suppopse it depends what type of mood the guy looking at the photos in;)

lonndongeek Jun 7th 2007 9:56 pm

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I (currently) have 3 points on my UK driving licence.

Does anybody know if these will be transferred to my Australian dirving licence when we move, or do I get to start with a clean slate?

Cheers

LG

breezeboylan Jun 7th 2007 10:03 pm

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Originally Posted by lonndongeek (Post 4888976)
I (currently) have 3 points on my UK driving licence.

Does anybody know if these will be transferred to my Australian dirving licence when we move, or do I get to start with a clean slate?

Cheers

LG

OH had points on his licence coming over and he got a clean licence over here:D
Tracie

glittababe Jun 7th 2007 10:11 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4882846)
I have been lucky so far....apart from yesterday, got flashed by a camera for the first time in a year in OZ...

What will happen now? how many points will i get? and how much will the fine be?

I was doing 75km in a 70km area.

good job you don't live in Noosa - hubby would get ya!

youngy73 Jun 8th 2007 8:51 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4882846)
I have been lucky so far....apart from yesterday, got flashed by a camera for the first time in a year in OZ...

What will happen now? how many points will i get? and how much will the fine be?

I was doing 75km in a 70km area.

the wife had a woman in tears today. she clocked her at 112 kms in a 60 zone. $700 fine and automatic 6 month licence suspension. traffic branch show no mercy.

Nomore Jun 8th 2007 8:57 pm

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Originally Posted by youngy73 (Post 4892619)
the wife had a woman in tears today. she clocked her at 112 kms in a 60 zone. $700 fine and automatic 6 month licence suspension. traffic branch show no mercy.

Very harsh, no mercy shown there:blink:

(whats that on your Avatar, are my eyes blurred)

glittababe Jun 8th 2007 8:58 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4892637)
Very harsh, no mercy shown there:blink:

ahhh if you play with fire expect to get burnt!

dairic Jun 8th 2007 9:19 pm

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what are the speed limits in oz for different roads?

Nomore Jun 8th 2007 9:21 pm

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Originally Posted by dairic (Post 4892685)
what are the speed limits in oz for different roads?

Freeway is 80 to 100km.

Built up areas range between 50 to 70km.

ub40fan Jun 8th 2007 10:39 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4892687)
Freeway is 80 to 100km.

Built up areas range between 50 to 70km.

Or 80 on some roads (Marmion Ave eg) and on the Highways (i.e Reid or Tonkin) it can be 80, 90 or 100. (These roads are in Perth btw)

You really need to keep your eyes peeled for the signs.

Shirley

youngy73 Jun 8th 2007 11:29 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4892637)
Very harsh, no mercy shown there:blink:

(whats that on your Avatar, are my eyes blurred)

no. thats me in fancy dress as a black fella.one of my better rigs.

happyboy Jun 8th 2007 11:35 pm

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link doesnt work

fraser Jun 8th 2007 11:41 pm

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Originally Posted by paulrachel (Post 4887827)
My hubby has one of those machines that detect speed cameras. Without that he would have lost his licence months ago. He is on the road all day everyday, best thing invented;)

Surely this person using the gadget so that he can speed and not be caught isn't the same person who has said "the best thing I've heard all year" about someone getting banged up for driving offences:rofl:

worzel Jun 9th 2007 12:21 am

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Originally Posted by ub40fan (Post 4892875)
You really need to keep your eyes peeled for the signs.

Especially places like the Reid / Tonkin highways where they change every few hundred metres. You only need to overtake something high-sided to miss one and get fined / points on your licence:rolleyes:

ub40fan Jun 9th 2007 12:32 am

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Originally Posted by worzel (Post 4893234)
Especially places like the Reid / Tonkin highways where they change every few hundred metres. You only need to overtake something high-sided to miss one and get fined / points on your licence:rolleyes:

Yes, they do like to change speed with little warning - at least on the M25 you had a sign that said variable speed limits!

I went past one this morning, after a 10 hour night shift, so I was a bit bleary eyed. Good job I have an alarm on my car that tells me when I go over 100kms. He was a bike cop with his hair dryer, I was ok but thought I had better ring the sil who came out of work after me, she is a bit of a speed freak after a long night.:eek:

Nomore Jun 9th 2007 12:35 am

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Originally Posted by fraser (Post 4893126)
Surely this person using the gadget so that he can speed and not be caught isn't the same person who has said "the best thing I've heard all year" about someone getting banged up for driving offences:rofl:

Yes, you are right..not the same person;)


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