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I care not if the speader is an average joe or not. Sorry the UK police are inept. Well you now have a traffic regulation violation to your name - a girl racer it seems. My last ticket - 26 years ago - I'm a survivor.
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Originally Posted by sky
What was your ticket for Quinkana you are quick to accuse but you are giving no details about yourself, for all I know I could be talking to some adolesent teenager with time on his hands
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I accuse you of nothing - let us hope you do not become a criminal through careless driving.
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Originally Posted by sky
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Rear-end shunts generally indicate that people are driving too close to the car in front....speed traps or no speed traps. It's not rocket science. It could be a pedestrian/animal/other vehicle they are having to slam on for. You can't blame speed cameras for everything.
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Drivers here do seem to tailgate loads more than where I lived in U.K [I'm trying not to generalise so you don't all jump on me] What the hell do drivers in Qld drive so close for? they're like sheep!
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Originally Posted by Quinkana
Can't remember - something like 90 in 80 zone.
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Originally Posted by cresta57
It could have been a white bucket that fell from a builders ute
or even aliens from outer space
but if there's an accident at a known speed camera it's due to the driver braking for that speed camera as I said in my post.
Drivers here do seem to tailgate loads more than where I lived in U.K [I'm trying not to generalise so you don't all jump on me] What the hell do drivers in Qld drive so close for? they're like sheep!
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Drivers here do seem to tailgate loads more than where I lived in U.K [I'm trying not to generalise so you don't all jump on me] What the hell do drivers in Qld drive so close for? they're like sheep!
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I agree with HELS.
the alternative is a situation like the UK where the speed limit, is widely regarded as a "suggested" limit - I mean, who goes 70 on the mororway? (unless it's congested)
the alternative is a situation like the UK where the speed limit, is widely regarded as a "suggested" limit - I mean, who goes 70 on the mororway? (unless it's congested)
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And the amount of white vans at the side of the road is unreal, causing the same "slam on your brakes when you see one" even if you where not speeding. They are also now sending out fines for a few miles an hour over the limit, so things dont seem that different apart from the double demerit points
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having been caught speeding twice in the UK now, i'm not going to sit here and argue about whether cameras are a good thing or a bad thing. I was over the limit i got caught fairysnuff. As i'm now driving around in my folks 1.7D astra with a massive top speed of 75 MPH (80 at a push) to me doing 70 on the motorways in the UK is SCARY! driving round towns at night is just insane. Not having the speed or the acceleration doesn't matter to the cap wearing gimp squad with their little tuned to the teach hot hatches. You just get in their way and you are nothing to them but another car to overtake or force off the road due to their driving errors.
..but where are the marked patrol cars? the cameras in built up areas? the reasons not to go out and drive like a looney round your local housing estate? they don't exist! all the concentrationed effort of the police is sat by the side of the 40mph dual carriage way waiting for you to go over the limit by 1mph (or 3 to be more specific) just incase someone walks out in to the middle of busy traffic and gets run over.
like i said, speeding is bad, (mmmkay) i just think they're looking in the wrong places for the wrong reasons.
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..but where are the marked patrol cars? the cameras in built up areas? the reasons not to go out and drive like a looney round your local housing estate? they don't exist! all the concentrationed effort of the police is sat by the side of the 40mph dual carriage way waiting for you to go over the limit by 1mph (or 3 to be more specific) just incase someone walks out in to the middle of busy traffic and gets run over.
like i said, speeding is bad, (mmmkay) i just think they're looking in the wrong places for the wrong reasons.
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Originally Posted by scutterUK
like i said, speeding is bad, (mmmkay) i just think they're looking in the wrong places for the wrong reasons.
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Warrnambool police are pleased with the results of a weekend crackdown on hoons in the city's central business district (CBD).
Police lowered the speed limit in Liebig Street to 25 kilometres an hour on Friday afternoon, in a bid to stop people driving laps at high speeds.
Chief Inspector John Robinson says only seven people were booked, compared with 50 the week before.
"The 25 km/h speed limit, I mean we can argue over what the final speed limit might be, but what goes without question is how much safer the central business district was," he said.
"So we'll be talking to council and other players on the local safety committee about the sorts of things we might do [to] permanently rectify the problem."
Police happy with hoons campaign
`Car enthusiasts, not hoons'
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Originally Posted by Quinkana
Monday, 23 August 2004
Warrnambool police are pleased with the results of a weekend crackdown on hoons in the city's central business district (CBD).
Police lowered the speed limit in Liebig Street to 25 kilometres an hour on Friday afternoon, in a bid to stop people driving laps at high speeds.
Chief Inspector John Robinson says only seven people were booked, compared with 50 the week before.
"The 25 km/h speed limit, I mean we can argue over what the final speed limit might be, but what goes without question is how much safer the central business district was," he said.
"So we'll be talking to council and other players on the local safety committee about the sorts of things we might do [to] permanently rectify the problem."
Police happy with hoons campaign
`Car enthusiasts, not hoons'
Warrnambool police are pleased with the results of a weekend crackdown on hoons in the city's central business district (CBD).
Police lowered the speed limit in Liebig Street to 25 kilometres an hour on Friday afternoon, in a bid to stop people driving laps at high speeds.
Chief Inspector John Robinson says only seven people were booked, compared with 50 the week before.
"The 25 km/h speed limit, I mean we can argue over what the final speed limit might be, but what goes without question is how much safer the central business district was," he said.
"So we'll be talking to council and other players on the local safety committee about the sorts of things we might do [to] permanently rectify the problem."
Police happy with hoons campaign
`Car enthusiasts, not hoons'
anyway,... you should have been there.
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Originally Posted by Grayling
My point was not about whether speed traps were a good or bad thing.
However it has been stated on this site that the number of speed cameras in the Uk is a good reason to emigrate and evidence of some sort of police state!!!
People who think that are in for a surprise
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However it has been stated on this site that the number of speed cameras in the Uk is a good reason to emigrate and evidence of some sort of police state!!!
People who think that are in for a surprise
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my gripe is more with the system than where speed cameras are put. In Australia (Victoria at least) you speedo has to be acurate to within 10% of the speed limit, yet you will get booked for doing 53kmh in a 50 kmh zone even if you are doing 55 and your speedometer reads 50kmh?? revenue raising they are not eh?? and what about the new "flawed" roadside drug tests. huh.... this bracks govt has got to go i tells ya.
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Personally, I dont understand those that complain about speed traps/camera's/RBT or anything similar. My theory is that if you arent speeding or drink driving, then it wouldnt matter if they were every 10 feet.....
Perhaps I am a dreamer, but I like to think that in some small way, having the camera's/RBT, it might save a few lives....Just a little more important than worrying what the revenue that they make is spent on. If people speed less or didnt drink and drive, there would be a lot less revenue...![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Perhaps I am a dreamer, but I like to think that in some small way, having the camera's/RBT, it might save a few lives....Just a little more important than worrying what the revenue that they make is spent on. If people speed less or didnt drink and drive, there would be a lot less revenue...
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Agreed totally... BUT today we drove back up the pacific hwy and there was a hidden camera right on the mark where the motorway went from 100Kph to 80kph. Thats the sort of thing that annoys me, to me, that is blatant revenue raising!!
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Apologies for going a bit OT... from the short time I've been here, it seems like most accidents involve inexperienced drivers (P-platers), maybe the police should divert more of the speed ticket revenue into financing better training and education etc. rather than it going elsewhere. (There was a big thing on the news here in WA about funding being withdrawn from a coaching place for young drivers).
Another weird thing - being warned on the radio where the speed traps will be for the forthcoming day.
Another weird thing - being warned on the radio where the speed traps will be for the forthcoming day.
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Originally Posted by jad n rich
I'd agree people should not speed, but lets look at the speed limits and make them reasonable. 60mph on a motorway in a country bigger than most
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Things may be different up north, but down here, on a motorway, out of town, the speed limit is 110kph (68mph). A few examples of this are the Hume Freeway in Vic and NSW and the Princes Freeway/Highway in Vic.
People seem to say that the speed limits are slower here, but I'm not convinced. For example:
- The metropolitan section of the Monash Freeway has a speed limit of 100k (reducing to 80 near the CBD). Metropolitan Motorways in the UK (e.g. A40M, M41, A38M) typically have speed limits of 60 and 50 mph (97 and 80kph).
- Metropolitan dual carriageways (e.g. Dandenong Rd) is 80kph compared to the A4 and A40 in London at 40mph (64kph) and the A2 in London at 50mph (80kph).
- Country single carriageway highways (e.g. Westernport Highway) are 100kph compared to country A roads in the UK at 60mph (97kph).
- A Metropolitan Street is typically 60kph or 50kph compared with 30mph (48kph) in the UK.
The only roads that I can see are significantly slower are non metropolitan dual carriageways which are typically 100kph compared with 70 mph (113 kph) in the UK.
I know different states have different speed limits and I have seen that for an 80kph road in Melbourne the Sydney equivalent is typically 70kph. However drivers in Sydney typically drive 10kph over the speed limit.
Personally I've not seen any speed traps here (yet). However in the 1st month here, I was breathalysed twice in one day. At the time I assumed that frequent testing was the norm, but since this hasn't happened again, I’ve changed my mind.
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