The slow boat to NZ
Jun 6th 2003, 3:37 pm
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The slow boat to NZ
Saw this article in a NZ paper today - might be of interest for some of you to see the view of Kiwi recruiters trying to get UK staff.
Also looks like the NZ Expo will be held again this year. We went last time and it was very good, especially as they had an Otago presentation, as that is where we are going. Was great to talk to other potential immigrants on the day, some were decidin there and then where exactly to live (and about 15 or so families decided on Otago based on that day). Some were even given job interviews at the Expo and offered jobs very soon after. I would recommend it to anyone still around then.
Sounds like there was something similar in York recently, but maybe not the same.
Source: Otago Daily Times 6 June 2003
Titled: Slow migrant flow frustrates councils Otago recruiters heading back to UK
Text: "Workers from the United Kingdom are immigrating to Otago but it is taking longer than local government officials expected.
But officials say the delays are out of their hands and are still keen to fill Otago job vacancies with overseas workers.
A delegation representing the Otago Forward group of Otago-based councils is heading back to the same job fair it attended last year.
In October, a delegation of four went to a jobs expo in London and also spent time in Manchester and Leeds trying to attract skilled workers to Otago.
Dunedin City Council general manager marketing and development Peter Brown said the process was slower than the group had expected.
"We are trying to get more people through and we're about halfway there at the moment. But it's taking a bit longer than we anticipated," Mr Brown said.
"It seems to take a long time to sell a house over there and there is a large amount of paperwork to go through."
About a dozen families had migrated to Dunedin, while other families had arrived in Central Otago and the Clutha district.
"It's not a waste of time. Like a lot of things in promotions, the first effort is often the hardest and doesn't always bring instant results. This is a long-term process."
An Otago Forward initiative, comprising one representative of the Dunedin City Council and one from the Clutha District Council, would return to London in October for the New Zealand Opportunities Jobs Expo. The Clutha council still has to confirm its commitment.
The 10-day trip last year had cost about $30,000, with the Central Otago District Council contributing $10,000.
Central Otago District Council economic development manager Bill Dolan said it took a long time for migrants to reach New Zealand.
"It's frustrating to not see instant results but I'm still keeping in touch with people keen to come who we met up with last year," Mr Dolan said.
"It's far too early to say it's been a failure."
He believed people were keen to come but patience was the key as it took a long time to cut through the red tape.
The three families which had arrived in Central Otago were enjoying their stay.
The council has been placing advertisements in the job recruitment advertisement magazine Working in New Zealand, at a cost of $7000 this year. Mr Dolan said he had received 22 inquiries from these advertisements.
Employment consultant Bob Clark, who went to the jobs expo last year, said: "To sell a house over there really is horrendous. It seems to take forever. Then there are plenty of forms you have to fill out with the system and that all takes time. And it's out of our hands."
He said as more people came to New Zealand, a network was being set up between the migrants and people in Britain, helping other people make the decision to shift to Otago."
Also looks like the NZ Expo will be held again this year. We went last time and it was very good, especially as they had an Otago presentation, as that is where we are going. Was great to talk to other potential immigrants on the day, some were decidin there and then where exactly to live (and about 15 or so families decided on Otago based on that day). Some were even given job interviews at the Expo and offered jobs very soon after. I would recommend it to anyone still around then.
Sounds like there was something similar in York recently, but maybe not the same.
Source: Otago Daily Times 6 June 2003
Titled: Slow migrant flow frustrates councils Otago recruiters heading back to UK
Text: "Workers from the United Kingdom are immigrating to Otago but it is taking longer than local government officials expected.
But officials say the delays are out of their hands and are still keen to fill Otago job vacancies with overseas workers.
A delegation representing the Otago Forward group of Otago-based councils is heading back to the same job fair it attended last year.
In October, a delegation of four went to a jobs expo in London and also spent time in Manchester and Leeds trying to attract skilled workers to Otago.
Dunedin City Council general manager marketing and development Peter Brown said the process was slower than the group had expected.
"We are trying to get more people through and we're about halfway there at the moment. But it's taking a bit longer than we anticipated," Mr Brown said.
"It seems to take a long time to sell a house over there and there is a large amount of paperwork to go through."
About a dozen families had migrated to Dunedin, while other families had arrived in Central Otago and the Clutha district.
"It's not a waste of time. Like a lot of things in promotions, the first effort is often the hardest and doesn't always bring instant results. This is a long-term process."
An Otago Forward initiative, comprising one representative of the Dunedin City Council and one from the Clutha District Council, would return to London in October for the New Zealand Opportunities Jobs Expo. The Clutha council still has to confirm its commitment.
The 10-day trip last year had cost about $30,000, with the Central Otago District Council contributing $10,000.
Central Otago District Council economic development manager Bill Dolan said it took a long time for migrants to reach New Zealand.
"It's frustrating to not see instant results but I'm still keeping in touch with people keen to come who we met up with last year," Mr Dolan said.
"It's far too early to say it's been a failure."
He believed people were keen to come but patience was the key as it took a long time to cut through the red tape.
The three families which had arrived in Central Otago were enjoying their stay.
The council has been placing advertisements in the job recruitment advertisement magazine Working in New Zealand, at a cost of $7000 this year. Mr Dolan said he had received 22 inquiries from these advertisements.
Employment consultant Bob Clark, who went to the jobs expo last year, said: "To sell a house over there really is horrendous. It seems to take forever. Then there are plenty of forms you have to fill out with the system and that all takes time. And it's out of our hands."
He said as more people came to New Zealand, a network was being set up between the migrants and people in Britain, helping other people make the decision to shift to Otago."
Jun 6th 2003, 6:37 pm
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Re: The slow boat to NZ
Originally posted by southerner
Saw this article in a NZ paper today - might be of interest for some of you to see the view of Kiwi recruiters trying to get UK staff.
Also looks like the NZ Expo will be held again this year. We went last time and it was very good, especially as they had an Otago presentation, as that is where we are going. Was great to talk to other potential immigrants on the day, some were decidin there and then where exactly to live (and about 15 or so families decided on Otago based on that day). Some were even given job interviews at the Expo and offered jobs very soon after. I would recommend it to anyone still around then.
Sounds like there was something similar in York recently, but maybe not the same.
Source: Otago Daily Times 6 June 2003
Titled: Slow migrant flow frustrates councils Otago recruiters heading back to UK
Text: "Workers from the United Kingdom are immigrating to Otago but it is taking longer than local government officials expected.
But officials say the delays are out of their hands and are still keen to fill Otago job vacancies with overseas workers.
A delegation representing the Otago Forward group of Otago-based councils is heading back to the same job fair it attended last year.
In October, a delegation of four went to a jobs expo in London and also spent time in Manchester and Leeds trying to attract skilled workers to Otago.
Dunedin City Council general manager marketing and development Peter Brown said the process was slower than the group had expected.
"We are trying to get more people through and we're about halfway there at the moment. But it's taking a bit longer than we anticipated," Mr Brown said.
"It seems to take a long time to sell a house over there and there is a large amount of paperwork to go through."
About a dozen families had migrated to Dunedin, while other families had arrived in Central Otago and the Clutha district.
"It's not a waste of time. Like a lot of things in promotions, the first effort is often the hardest and doesn't always bring instant results. This is a long-term process."
An Otago Forward initiative, comprising one representative of the Dunedin City Council and one from the Clutha District Council, would return to London in October for the New Zealand Opportunities Jobs Expo. The Clutha council still has to confirm its commitment.
The 10-day trip last year had cost about $30,000, with the Central Otago District Council contributing $10,000.
Central Otago District Council economic development manager Bill Dolan said it took a long time for migrants to reach New Zealand.
"It's frustrating to not see instant results but I'm still keeping in touch with people keen to come who we met up with last year," Mr Dolan said.
"It's far too early to say it's been a failure."
He believed people were keen to come but patience was the key as it took a long time to cut through the red tape.
The three families which had arrived in Central Otago were enjoying their stay.
The council has been placing advertisements in the job recruitment advertisement magazine Working in New Zealand, at a cost of $7000 this year. Mr Dolan said he had received 22 inquiries from these advertisements.
Employment consultant Bob Clark, who went to the jobs expo last year, said: "To sell a house over there really is horrendous. It seems to take forever. Then there are plenty of forms you have to fill out with the system and that all takes time. And it's out of our hands."
He said as more people came to New Zealand, a network was being set up between the migrants and people in Britain, helping other people make the decision to shift to Otago."
Saw this article in a NZ paper today - might be of interest for some of you to see the view of Kiwi recruiters trying to get UK staff.
Also looks like the NZ Expo will be held again this year. We went last time and it was very good, especially as they had an Otago presentation, as that is where we are going. Was great to talk to other potential immigrants on the day, some were decidin there and then where exactly to live (and about 15 or so families decided on Otago based on that day). Some were even given job interviews at the Expo and offered jobs very soon after. I would recommend it to anyone still around then.
Sounds like there was something similar in York recently, but maybe not the same.
Source: Otago Daily Times 6 June 2003
Titled: Slow migrant flow frustrates councils Otago recruiters heading back to UK
Text: "Workers from the United Kingdom are immigrating to Otago but it is taking longer than local government officials expected.
But officials say the delays are out of their hands and are still keen to fill Otago job vacancies with overseas workers.
A delegation representing the Otago Forward group of Otago-based councils is heading back to the same job fair it attended last year.
In October, a delegation of four went to a jobs expo in London and also spent time in Manchester and Leeds trying to attract skilled workers to Otago.
Dunedin City Council general manager marketing and development Peter Brown said the process was slower than the group had expected.
"We are trying to get more people through and we're about halfway there at the moment. But it's taking a bit longer than we anticipated," Mr Brown said.
"It seems to take a long time to sell a house over there and there is a large amount of paperwork to go through."
About a dozen families had migrated to Dunedin, while other families had arrived in Central Otago and the Clutha district.
"It's not a waste of time. Like a lot of things in promotions, the first effort is often the hardest and doesn't always bring instant results. This is a long-term process."
An Otago Forward initiative, comprising one representative of the Dunedin City Council and one from the Clutha District Council, would return to London in October for the New Zealand Opportunities Jobs Expo. The Clutha council still has to confirm its commitment.
The 10-day trip last year had cost about $30,000, with the Central Otago District Council contributing $10,000.
Central Otago District Council economic development manager Bill Dolan said it took a long time for migrants to reach New Zealand.
"It's frustrating to not see instant results but I'm still keeping in touch with people keen to come who we met up with last year," Mr Dolan said.
"It's far too early to say it's been a failure."
He believed people were keen to come but patience was the key as it took a long time to cut through the red tape.
The three families which had arrived in Central Otago were enjoying their stay.
The council has been placing advertisements in the job recruitment advertisement magazine Working in New Zealand, at a cost of $7000 this year. Mr Dolan said he had received 22 inquiries from these advertisements.
Employment consultant Bob Clark, who went to the jobs expo last year, said: "To sell a house over there really is horrendous. It seems to take forever. Then there are plenty of forms you have to fill out with the system and that all takes time. And it's out of our hands."
He said as more people came to New Zealand, a network was being set up between the migrants and people in Britain, helping other people make the decision to shift to Otago."
Jun 6th 2003, 7:31 pm
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Was last year at an Earls Court hotel (I think the Grosvenor or something like that) on both Saturday and Sunday of one weekend.
Will see if I can find out more details and will post them.
Will see if I can find out more details and will post them.
Jun 6th 2003, 7:34 pm
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Re: The slow boat to NZ
Originally posted by southerner
Saw this article in a NZ paper today - might be of interest for some of you to see the view of Kiwi recruiters trying to get UK staff.
Also looks like the NZ Expo will be held again this year. We went last time and it was very good, especially as they had an Otago presentation, as that is where we are going. Was great to talk to other potential immigrants on the day, some were decidin there and then where exactly to live (and about 15 or so families decided on Otago based on that day). Some were even given job interviews at the Expo and offered jobs very soon after. I would recommend it to anyone still around then.
Sounds like there was something similar in York recently, but maybe not the same.
Source: Otago Daily Times 6 June 2003
Titled: Slow migrant flow frustrates councils Otago recruiters heading back to UK
Text: "Workers from the United Kingdom are immigrating to Otago but it is taking longer than local government officials expected.
But officials say the delays are out of their hands and are still keen to fill Otago job vacancies with overseas workers.
A delegation representing the Otago Forward group of Otago-based councils is heading back to the same job fair it attended last year.
In October, a delegation of four went to a jobs expo in London and also spent time in Manchester and Leeds trying to attract skilled workers to Otago.
Dunedin City Council general manager marketing and development Peter Brown said the process was slower than the group had expected.
"We are trying to get more people through and we're about halfway there at the moment. But it's taking a bit longer than we anticipated," Mr Brown said.
"It seems to take a long time to sell a house over there and there is a large amount of paperwork to go through."
About a dozen families had migrated to Dunedin, while other families had arrived in Central Otago and the Clutha district.
"It's not a waste of time. Like a lot of things in promotions, the first effort is often the hardest and doesn't always bring instant results. This is a long-term process."
An Otago Forward initiative, comprising one representative of the Dunedin City Council and one from the Clutha District Council, would return to London in October for the New Zealand Opportunities Jobs Expo. The Clutha council still has to confirm its commitment.
The 10-day trip last year had cost about $30,000, with the Central Otago District Council contributing $10,000.
Central Otago District Council economic development manager Bill Dolan said it took a long time for migrants to reach New Zealand.
"It's frustrating to not see instant results but I'm still keeping in touch with people keen to come who we met up with last year," Mr Dolan said.
"It's far too early to say it's been a failure."
He believed people were keen to come but patience was the key as it took a long time to cut through the red tape.
The three families which had arrived in Central Otago were enjoying their stay.
The council has been placing advertisements in the job recruitment advertisement magazine Working in New Zealand, at a cost of $7000 this year. Mr Dolan said he had received 22 inquiries from these advertisements.
Employment consultant Bob Clark, who went to the jobs expo last year, said: "To sell a house over there really is horrendous. It seems to take forever. Then there are plenty of forms you have to fill out with the system and that all takes time. And it's out of our hands."
He said as more people came to New Zealand, a network was being set up between the migrants and people in Britain, helping other people make the decision to shift to Otago."
Saw this article in a NZ paper today - might be of interest for some of you to see the view of Kiwi recruiters trying to get UK staff.
Also looks like the NZ Expo will be held again this year. We went last time and it was very good, especially as they had an Otago presentation, as that is where we are going. Was great to talk to other potential immigrants on the day, some were decidin there and then where exactly to live (and about 15 or so families decided on Otago based on that day). Some were even given job interviews at the Expo and offered jobs very soon after. I would recommend it to anyone still around then.
Sounds like there was something similar in York recently, but maybe not the same.
Source: Otago Daily Times 6 June 2003
Titled: Slow migrant flow frustrates councils Otago recruiters heading back to UK
Text: "Workers from the United Kingdom are immigrating to Otago but it is taking longer than local government officials expected.
But officials say the delays are out of their hands and are still keen to fill Otago job vacancies with overseas workers.
A delegation representing the Otago Forward group of Otago-based councils is heading back to the same job fair it attended last year.
In October, a delegation of four went to a jobs expo in London and also spent time in Manchester and Leeds trying to attract skilled workers to Otago.
Dunedin City Council general manager marketing and development Peter Brown said the process was slower than the group had expected.
"We are trying to get more people through and we're about halfway there at the moment. But it's taking a bit longer than we anticipated," Mr Brown said.
"It seems to take a long time to sell a house over there and there is a large amount of paperwork to go through."
About a dozen families had migrated to Dunedin, while other families had arrived in Central Otago and the Clutha district.
"It's not a waste of time. Like a lot of things in promotions, the first effort is often the hardest and doesn't always bring instant results. This is a long-term process."
An Otago Forward initiative, comprising one representative of the Dunedin City Council and one from the Clutha District Council, would return to London in October for the New Zealand Opportunities Jobs Expo. The Clutha council still has to confirm its commitment.
The 10-day trip last year had cost about $30,000, with the Central Otago District Council contributing $10,000.
Central Otago District Council economic development manager Bill Dolan said it took a long time for migrants to reach New Zealand.
"It's frustrating to not see instant results but I'm still keeping in touch with people keen to come who we met up with last year," Mr Dolan said.
"It's far too early to say it's been a failure."
He believed people were keen to come but patience was the key as it took a long time to cut through the red tape.
The three families which had arrived in Central Otago were enjoying their stay.
The council has been placing advertisements in the job recruitment advertisement magazine Working in New Zealand, at a cost of $7000 this year. Mr Dolan said he had received 22 inquiries from these advertisements.
Employment consultant Bob Clark, who went to the jobs expo last year, said: "To sell a house over there really is horrendous. It seems to take forever. Then there are plenty of forms you have to fill out with the system and that all takes time. And it's out of our hands."
He said as more people came to New Zealand, a network was being set up between the migrants and people in Britain, helping other people make the decision to shift to Otago."
Jun 6th 2003, 7:44 pm
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I think health professionals and teaching roles.
Bob Clark and a colleague from a recruitment agency came over with a pile of roles to fill, and I'm sure he filled quite a few almost on the spot.
Drop him a line - he'll be in the book so to speak
http://www.yellowpages.co.nz/
or even the white pages
Bob Clark and a colleague from a recruitment agency came over with a pile of roles to fill, and I'm sure he filled quite a few almost on the spot.
Drop him a line - he'll be in the book so to speak
http://www.yellowpages.co.nz/
or even the white pages
Jun 6th 2003, 7:53 pm
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Here is the original news article:
Otago's presence at a job opportunities expo for emigres and expatriates in London has attracted strong interest, Dunedin City Council manager of city marketing Peter Brown has reported.
The two-day expo last weekend attracted nearly 4000 people, including many expatriates considering returning home.
Mr Brown is leading a delegation comprising representatives of the Dunedin, Central Otago and Clutha councils and Dunedin-based recruitment consultant Bob Clark to try to match up emigres with 100 hard-to-fill vacancies.
The delegation interviewed 89 people for specific jobs in Dunedin and Central Otago and 10 contracts were "offered on the spot", Mr Brown and Central Otago economic development manager Bill Dolan said in a joint statement yesterday.
"We had one of the best situated and attractive stands at the expo and, over the course of two days, spoke to about 200 people about living conditions and prospects in Otago," Mr Brown said. "We could not have coped with any more inquiries."
The delegation had been interviewing job candidates and checking references and was confident most could be matched to job opportunities.
Mr Brown, due back at the end of the month, said the Otago team was visiting Manchester and Leeds and hoped to find the same level of interest there.
Otago's presence at a job opportunities expo for emigres and expatriates in London has attracted strong interest, Dunedin City Council manager of city marketing Peter Brown has reported.
The two-day expo last weekend attracted nearly 4000 people, including many expatriates considering returning home.
Mr Brown is leading a delegation comprising representatives of the Dunedin, Central Otago and Clutha councils and Dunedin-based recruitment consultant Bob Clark to try to match up emigres with 100 hard-to-fill vacancies.
The delegation interviewed 89 people for specific jobs in Dunedin and Central Otago and 10 contracts were "offered on the spot", Mr Brown and Central Otago economic development manager Bill Dolan said in a joint statement yesterday.
"We had one of the best situated and attractive stands at the expo and, over the course of two days, spoke to about 200 people about living conditions and prospects in Otago," Mr Brown said. "We could not have coped with any more inquiries."
The delegation had been interviewing job candidates and checking references and was confident most could be matched to job opportunities.
Mr Brown, due back at the end of the month, said the Otago team was visiting Manchester and Leeds and hoped to find the same level of interest there.
Jun 6th 2003, 7:59 pm
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Re: The slow boat to NZ
Darren,
Haven't been able to find details for Bob Clark, but these links might be useful.
To see the latest job vacancies in Dunedin go to the website www.WorkOtagoNZ.co.nz.
And the following might be useful too:
http://www.cityofdunedin.com/city/?page=life_work
Haven't been able to find details for Bob Clark, but these links might be useful.
To see the latest job vacancies in Dunedin go to the website www.WorkOtagoNZ.co.nz.
And the following might be useful too:
http://www.cityofdunedin.com/city/?page=life_work
Jun 7th 2003, 7:24 am
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NZ Expo
It looks like the New Zealand expo is on again this year
Have a look at http://www.workingin-newzealand.com/
London. 18-19th October 2003
Paragon Hotel
Earls Court
We went to Ops. abroad expo in York last weekend which was OK. We spoke to 3 migration consultants who rated our chances to go to NZ from "No chance" to "shouldn't be a problem" given the same information. Seems like a job offer is crucial though, so this might be good.
Have a look at http://www.workingin-newzealand.com/
London. 18-19th October 2003
Paragon Hotel
Earls Court
We went to Ops. abroad expo in York last weekend which was OK. We spoke to 3 migration consultants who rated our chances to go to NZ from "No chance" to "shouldn't be a problem" given the same information. Seems like a job offer is crucial though, so this might be good.
Last edited by philangst; Jun 7th 2003 at 5:08 pm.
Jun 9th 2003, 4:25 pm
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Re: The slow boat to NZ
Originally posted by GetMeOutOfHere
What were the jobs on offer, any ideas
What were the jobs on offer, any ideas
Darren, found this guys details (if your'e interested). He is most likely to be involved in NZ Expo again this year.
Regards
Name: Clark Management & Consulting Ltd
Contact: Bob Clark, HR Consultant
Address: PO Box 1080, Dunedin, NZ
Phone: (+64 3) 455 8897 or (+64) 021 432 922
Fax Number: (+64 3) 455 8697
Website:
Email your C.V. to: [email protected]
Jun 10th 2003, 9:12 am
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Re: The slow boat to NZ
Originally posted by southerner
Darren, found this guys details (if your'e interested). He is most likely to be involved in NZ Expo again this year.
Regards
Name: Clark Management & Consulting Ltd
Contact: Bob Clark, HR Consultant
Address: PO Box 1080, Dunedin, NZ
Phone: (+64 3) 455 8897 or (+64) 021 432 922
Fax Number: (+64 3) 455 8697
Website:
Email your C.V. to: [email protected]
Darren, found this guys details (if your'e interested). He is most likely to be involved in NZ Expo again this year.
Regards
Name: Clark Management & Consulting Ltd
Contact: Bob Clark, HR Consultant
Address: PO Box 1080, Dunedin, NZ
Phone: (+64 3) 455 8897 or (+64) 021 432 922
Fax Number: (+64 3) 455 8697
Website:
Email your C.V. to: [email protected]
I'll email the guy, whats you plans then? You state in your profile your going back to Dunedin, have you a job to go to?
I've had to send stuff of to NZQA
so a while to go for me.
Jun 10th 2003, 9:53 am
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Re: The slow boat to NZ
I spent 8 years there before migrating to London 10 years ago on my big OE.
I now work in the Banking industry, and will not be able to continue that in Dunedin (there are no Bank HOs there). So will have to do something a bit new career wise. Might even retrain once I've had a good look around.
I have a few old contacts, and can fall back on my Accounting qualifications if need be.
Regards
I now work in the Banking industry, and will not be able to continue that in Dunedin (there are no Bank HOs there). So will have to do something a bit new career wise. Might even retrain once I've had a good look around.
I have a few old contacts, and can fall back on my Accounting qualifications if need be.
Regards
