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lelchelle Nov 10th 2011 5:27 am

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 9724456)
I agree it does seem to be like that. Mum and Dad go to friends and take the kids with them here. Most of my friends in the UK would go out and dump their kids on babysitters.

You say that like its a bad thing ?? Would much rather be out with friends ,having a meal and a giggle without having the snotty nosed darlings there falling asleep in there chicken nuggets :o

brits1 Nov 10th 2011 5:38 am

Re: Sick of Getting Ripped off In Perth
 

Originally Posted by the troubadour (Post 9717483)
Very much the case. From going out to eat two or three times a week in the late 90s,we now do it around once a fortnight. Breakfast here in Perth usually more than double what paid in Central London.(last year)
More about home life these days. Family bonding I guess they call it. Not missing a lot by not going out to eat or to pubs here anyway,as you have duely noted.

We use to go to The Dome for our Breakfast and use to love going but two things changed, The Dome chain just got larger and standards where not as good and the prices :eek: our last 3 years in Perth we really noticed the price rise. I still loved their Ceaser Salad though:thumbsup: and also their Risotto especially at The Dome in Leederville AND my fav one in Mandurah (not the one in Mandurah town centre one though)

dave99 Nov 10th 2011 6:32 am

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Choo (Post 9717463)
Just about had it with this place. Everywhere you go, you have to pay through the nose for everything. Went out for a pub lunch with the family, and paid a small fortune for average food and crap service, which sums up Perth for me. No wonder the restaurants are dead as people are voting with their feet and cooking from home.

Going for breakfast is another joke - we almost paid double here for the same thing we got in Malbourne the week before.

Don't get me started on the price of alcohol. Glad I don't drink much :)

you pay more thats true but then the wages are 2x or 2.5x what they are in the uk, so its all swings and roundabouts

Beoz Nov 10th 2011 9:20 am

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Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 9725644)
We use to go to The Dome for our Breakfast and use to love going but two things changed, The Dome chain just got larger and standards where not as good and the prices :eek: our last 3 years in Perth we really noticed the price rise. I still loved their Ceaser Salad though:thumbsup: and also their Risotto especially at The Dome in Leederville AND my fav one in Mandurah (not the one in Mandurah town centre one though)

I see a business opportunity here. Perth Breakfasts - reasonable prices. More people through the door, make more money.

northernbird Nov 10th 2011 9:25 am

Re: Sick of Getting Ripped off In Perth
 

Originally Posted by lelchelle (Post 9725629)
You say that like its a bad thing ?? Would much rather be out with friends ,having a meal and a giggle without having the snotty nosed darlings there falling asleep in there chicken nuggets :o

No I wouldn't. I didn't have my kids to leave them with babysitters all the time. Just my opinion of course.

Loch Lomond Nov 10th 2011 9:35 am

Re: Sick of Getting Ripped off In Perth
 

Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 9726124)
I see a business opportunity here. Perth Breakfasts - reasonable prices. More people through the door, make more money.

Go for it, see if you can do it cheaper than anyone else. Don't rely on volume = lower margins = more profit.
I owned a restaurant in Perth, the wages, cost of goods, insurance, rent, tax and 3rd party costs are all sky high. You can't keep prices low in the hope that you will get custom...Perth's not like that.
That's why eating out and drinking in WA is expensive.
We made money, but got out of the business as soon as we could.

Beoz Nov 10th 2011 9:44 am

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Originally Posted by Loch Lomond (Post 9726158)
Go for it, see if you can do it cheaper than anyone else. Don't rely on volume = lower margins = more profit.
I owned a restaurant in Perth, the wages, cost of goods, insurance, rent, tax and 3rd party costs are all sky high. You can't keep prices low in the hope that you will get custom...Perth's not like that.
That's why eating out and drinking in WA is expensive.
We made money, but got out of the business as soon as we could.

Catch 22, Too costly to run, no one eats out because its expensive.

Loch Lomond Nov 10th 2011 9:47 am

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Didn't you see a business opportunity?

Beoz Nov 10th 2011 9:50 am

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Originally Posted by Loch Lomond (Post 9726194)
Didn't you see a business opportunity?

I did, but with no experience in hospitality, you put me off it straight away. :ohmy:

chris955 Nov 10th 2011 9:51 am

Re: Sick of Getting Ripped off In Perth
 
2 to 2.5 times UK wages, what world do you live in ?


Originally Posted by dave99 (Post 9725732)
you pay more thats true but then the wages are 2x or 2.5x what they are in the uk, so its all swings and roundabouts


Loch Lomond Nov 10th 2011 9:56 am

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I paid casual staff $18 / hour 2 years ago. Ex rate 0.55 - $1 = £9.90 / hour. Minimum wage in the Uk just now is around £5 - 6 / hour.
Penalty rates were higher by 25%.

Kapri Nov 10th 2011 9:56 am

Re: Sick of Getting Ripped off In Perth
 

Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 9724456)
I agree it does seem to be like that. Mum and Dad go to friends and take the kids with them here. Most of my friends in the UK would go out and dump their kids on babysitters.


Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 9724487)
:confused: back in the uk we Had an extensive network of family and friends making it so much easier ...... We do tend to be more into the drag your kids along thing, mainly because of mumbles ...we cant leave Him for long Certainly not for a late night out.... Means we're always first to leave anything we DO get to as a couple....


Originally Posted by lelchelle (Post 9725629)
You say that like its a bad thing ?? Would much rather be out with friends ,having a meal and a giggle without having the snotty nosed darlings there falling asleep in there chicken nuggets :o


Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 9726135)
No I wouldn't. I didn't have my kids to leave them with babysitters all the time. Just my opinion of course.

I guess there's a happy medium.
We have friends over and they bring the kids, we also go to their houses. This New year we are all going to a place where we can take the kids because we want them there.
Sometimes though, it's great to leave the kids with grandparents and really let loose. When the kids are with you, you have to moderate everything you do and say.
Luckily, the kids love staying with Nana, Granny, Aunties and cousins so they are having fun too :thumbup:

northernbird Nov 10th 2011 10:15 am

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Originally Posted by Kapri (Post 9726227)
I guess there's a happy medium.
We have friends over and they bring the kids, we also go to their houses. This New year we are all going to a place where we can take the kids because we want them there.
Sometimes though, it's great to leave the kids with grandparents and really let loose. When the kids are with you, you have to moderate everything you do and say.
Luckily, the kids love staying with Nana, Granny, Aunties and cousins so they are having fun too :thumbup:

I did say it was my opinion only K, I just never felt comfortable doing it. We did go out occasionally when the kids were small but we paid someone rather than ask family. I do not like anyone to have one over on me, including family so we never asked. Strange but just how I feel.

the troubadour Nov 10th 2011 2:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Beoz (Post 9726124)
I see a business opportunity here. Perth Breakfasts - reasonable prices. More people through the door, make more money.

Sounds good in theory and I know of a bloke that done that in London very successfully back in the eighties.

On reflection the big difference being he had a choice location on the Earls Court Road, a major road for pedestrian traffic. Hence prices could be kept low as volume of people was very high.
Nowhere in Perth could match such conditions apart from city centre where rents are very high and breakfast market already catered for.
Doubt it would be able to charge cheap enough prices in the burbs to make a go of it and would only take a slice of the business already operating probably making less income for all concerned.

the troubadour Nov 10th 2011 2:49 pm

Re: Sick of Getting Ripped off In Perth
 

Originally Posted by Loch Lomond (Post 9726226)
I paid casual staff $18 / hour 2 years ago. Ex rate 0.55 - $1 = £9.90 / hour. Minimum wage in the Uk just now is around £5 - 6 / hour.
Penalty rates were higher by 25%.

Labour is definately more expensive in Australia. Only surprised that casual staff didn't command far more as they do in many other areas. But then I suppose the hospitality industry is known for low wages often employing students and backpackers.
In london a fair number employed had no rights of employment in UK so earned very low money.


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