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mika24me Feb 2nd 2006 12:17 pm

Re: Should i move to australia
 
I came to Australia just over two years ago. My hubby was all for it at first but as the time to move approached he started getting cold feet. I never got cold feet at all.

Now we are both having a great time. We are soon going to move into a big new house, he has a great job and I don't have to work. The weather is warm, and our two children were born in a modern hospital with all imaginable facilities.

BUT we have decided to move back. The reason? Having lived in Australia has made us re-evaluate what we want out of life. We have decided the big house is not as important as the beautiful countryside and close proximity to history and culture in Europe that we can have inScotland.

So my answer, should you move to Australia? Only you can decide and in your heart you will know the answer. I know that if we had not come I would have always wondered what could have been. No move has to be permenant. Australia is a wonderful country with a lot to offer, but it depends what you are looking for.

Lord Pom Percy Feb 2nd 2006 12:36 pm

Re: Should i move to australia
 
You can always move back to the Uk, why not plan to stay 2 or 3 years ,
then decide if you want to stay, maybe rent in OZ, then it will be easier if you decide to go back. But don't be one of those people who move back to the Uk after only 6 months and regret it.

Misty33 Feb 2nd 2006 7:45 pm

Re: Should i move to australia
 
If you are going to make statements which may make people panic at least be specific about the problems agents so frequently.

We have an SIR visa as it is our only option. However, we have spoken in depth to the SA government and to a range of employers and people who are already over there on the visa asking them specifically if there are any problems associated with this visa. The answer has been that there have been NO problems experienced in any of the following:

a) Getting permanent jobs - including someone who secured a job in a government agency
b) Buying a house
c) Getting job interviews in the first place

For me those are pretty key things. So perhaps you could specify some exact reality based examples of the "horrors" of the temporary visas?



Jeremy[/QUOTE]

JAJ Feb 2nd 2006 8:36 pm

Re: Should i move to australia
 

Originally Posted by Misty33
If you are going to make statements which may make people panic at least be specific about the problems agents so frequently.

We have an SIR visa as it is our only option. However, we have spoken in depth to the SA government and to a range of employers and people who are already over there on the visa asking them specifically if there are any problems associated with this visa. The answer has been that there have been NO problems experienced in any of the following:

a) Getting permanent jobs - including someone who secured a job in a government agency
b) Buying a house
c) Getting job interviews in the first place

For me those are pretty key things. So perhaps you could specify some exact reality based examples of the "horrors" of the temporary visas?


The visa I had in mind was the 457 visa (work permit) rather than SIR.

But even SIR has its issues (Medicare eligibility, tuition fees, no citizenship for Aus born children, FIRB restrictions, restrictions on where you can live etc).

Anyone with a skill in high demand in Australia (eg nursing) ought to be looking to get a permanent employer sponsored visa (ENS/RSMS) rather than getting a SIR visa, if the points test is not met.


Jeremy

steve-n-jo Feb 2nd 2006 10:15 pm

Re: Should i move to australia
 
No, stay at home, its not worth the money, hassle and emotional stress.


Jo

VanceeOz Feb 2nd 2006 10:54 pm

Re: Should i move to australia
 

Originally Posted by the hightons
Hi i was hoping for some advise, my husband wants to move to Australia and has been in contact with a relocation company.
He can get a job in a hospital (as he is a registered nurse) but i would have to job hunt we also have a 6 month old daughter, I'm just really worried that i will miss my parents as they are not getting any younger.

I feel torn in two.
Please help me, what should i do.

Like you my husband chose to make the move to Oz, and should find work as a skilled electrician a lot quicker than myself (general office worker), most worrying :( My daughter is 9yrs old and would still require looking after, out of school hours and I hear part time work is pretty much non existent out there, you either work full time or stay at as a domestic engineer -My god, what a choice ;) However the move is not something we have taken lightly, we have been considering it for 3yrs now and have just recently made a definite decision to go. As for family, mine is quite large and the answer is yes, I will miss them, but when they get the opportunity to visit, which they will, they could stay for a month if they chose to, and in all honesty I would probably see them more in that month than I would in an entire year here.
For piece of mind I have emergency flight funds put aside, in the event of......dare I say. Although this is my first post I have been reading the threads on this site for some time and have learnt from them, both pros and cons. I have also arranged to go to a meet in Ruislip Middx this Sunday and again hope to obtain more knowledge and re assurance, perhaps attending a meet in your area is something that could benefit you too :)

ABCDiamond Feb 2nd 2006 11:08 pm

Re: Should i move to australia
 

Originally Posted by VanceeOz
I hear part time work is pretty much non existent out there,

I just had a quick look on www.seek.com.au, in the Brisbane area as an example, and out of 13,864 jobs, 3,243 were part time. That's 23%.

So it may not be too bad :)

mick_newcastle Feb 3rd 2006 12:28 am

Re: Should i move to australia
 

Originally Posted by VanceeOz
Like you my husband chose to make the move to Oz, and should find work as a skilled electrician a lot quicker than myself (general office worker), most worrying :( My daughter is 9yrs old and would still require looking after, out of school hours and I hear part time work is pretty much non existent out there, you either work full time or stay at as a domestic engineer -My god, what a choice ;) However the move is not something we have taken lightly, we have been considering it for 3yrs now and have just recently made a definite decision to go. As for family, mine is quite large and the answer is yes, I will miss them, but when they get the opportunity to visit, which they will, they could stay for a month if they chose to, and in all honesty I would probably see them more in that month than I would in an entire year here.
For piece of mind I have emergency flight funds put aside, in the event of......dare I say. Although this is my first post I have been reading the threads on this site for some time and have learnt from them, both pros and cons. I have also arranged to go to a meet in Ruislip Middx this Sunday and again hope to obtain more knowledge and re assurance, perhaps attending a meet in your area is something that could benefit you too :)

Great Post ! I couldn't agree more

VanceeOz Feb 4th 2006 2:03 am

Re: Should i move to australia
 

Originally Posted by ABCDiamond
I just had a quick look on www.seek.com.au, in the Brisbane area as an example, and out of 13,864 jobs, 3,243 were part time. That's 23%.

So it may not be too bad :)


Thanks for the link i'll check it out ;)

rossifumi Feb 4th 2006 3:23 am

Re: Should i move to australia
 
I just wanted to add this.

I have been accepted by the TRA as an Aircraft Maintenance Engineer (Avionics) 4114-15, Lynn has also been accepted as a Hairdresser (MODL). We have received our visas.

I have experience in the Logistics side of the aircraft industry also.

I'll have to re-certify like other trades, I don't have a problem with that, that's life! What does get me goat is of all the jobs that I have seen advertised within the aircraft industry, ranging from Aircraft Maintenance Engineers, Industry Logistics etc..even relief receptionist, a very high percentage state:

"Australian Citizenship is a key requirement for this position" This is obviously a security issue.

This isn't my only employment route as I have re-trained in other fields.

Ok, this'll take 3 years and in which time I can concentrate on conversion to Australian Civil Aviation Safety Authority standards. I have coresponded via e-mail about conversion as they have a conversion course for their ex military. I received a reply which read,

"Your email is acknowledged and I will respond further in the near future."

Not heard a dicky bird. I have since sent a polite reminder, still no reply.

Reading between the lines, is this a Union thing? It just makes me laugh how Australia is supposedly short of trades yet... It appears they are short as they are actively selling college courses to train as an AME.

A friend has experienced the same as me and has written to his MP about the apparent shortfall in this area yet the red tape, he hasn't had any feedback as yet.

I have located and applied for a few jobs that have not stated the Citizenship requirement, it'll also hopefully be easier when in Oz and the CV shows a local address, maybe not.

Is anyone else in a similar position?

Rich

jonjon Feb 4th 2006 3:43 am

Re: Should i move to australia
 

Originally Posted by the hightons
Hi i was hoping for some advise, my husband wants to move to Australia and has been in contact with a relocation company.
He can get a job in a hospital (as he is a registered nurse) but i would have to job hunt we also have a 6 month old daughter, I'm just really worried that i will miss my parents as they are not getting any younger.

I feel torn in two.
Please help me, what should i do.

As everyone on hear has said it is only something you can decide. We have the same concerns over the kids our’s are 1 and 3 and are the apple of both grandparents’ eyes.

We had a long hard think and hopefully both sets of parents will come over once a year and we may be able to get them to stay for a couple of months if that’s the case then they could get to see more of the grandparents than they do now it will just be consolidated down into twice a year instead of half a day every other week.

Overall from what I have read and seen I think it will offer a better way of life for them in the future as they grow up as the UK appears to be getting worse not better, and whilst the grass is not always greener I think its worth a try of there sake.

Do you research meet other who are going through the process and make your own decision don’t allow anyone influence you one way or another.

Good look and if you need any help or info please ask

Regards,

Jon

wilfam Feb 4th 2006 1:11 pm

Re: Should i move to australia
 
It would be impossible for you to look to the future and see how things can turn out. At the early stages of our move we wondered how or when we would see our family and friends. Fifteen years down the track of very happy living in the south west corner of WA I can report that our house has a revolving door for overseas visitors - everyone wants to come and visit (and they don't just stay for dinner, they are here usually for weeks/months!!). I have a nephew visiting in March because he is flying to Sydney to see U2 in concert, he's traveling west then after that to visit us. My brother is visiting in April with his two grand kids and my sister and her husband are arriving in Novermber.
We've been back very rarely - five of a family, very expensive! However, our kids are now travelling age and they have all been back having real quality time with their cousins, aunts and grand parents. And they were no strangers anyway as we use the computer and telephone to a huge extent so we are all very much in touch.
Having an emergency fund for at least one person is a good idea - and as I always say, the UK is only one day away.

Fionast Feb 4th 2006 10:04 pm

Re: Should i move to australia
 
[/QUOTE]Overall from what I have read and seen I think it will offer a better way of life for them in the future as they grow up as the UK appears to be getting worse not better, and whilst the grass is not always greener I think its worth a try of there sake.

Jon[/QUOTE]


I completey agree with this sentiment the only difference is we decided to wait until we get to Oz to start our family as it will be easier on our parents when we leave and I won't feel so guilty about taking them away. I am also aware that when we do start a family this is going to be the worst time for wanting my Mum etc and have warned the other half of this and told him not to let me go home no matter what I say!

lucky Feb 5th 2006 9:51 am

Re: Should i move to australia
 

Originally Posted by the hightons
Hi i was hoping for some advise, my husband wants to move to Australia and has been in contact with a relocation company.
He can get a job in a hospital (as he is a registered nurse) but i would have to job hunt we also have a 6 month old daughter, I'm just really worried that i will miss my parents as they are not getting any younger.

I feel torn in two.
Please help me, what should i do.


Sorry but the truth is no one can make the decision for you. We have been here almost 2 years - are awaiting the citizenship so that we can emigrate back to uk.

My thoughts on Australia
- Great place to live - nicer and cleaner than Uk and people more friendly

Downside - not cheaper that uk - salaries are low and cost of living not that much cheaper (yes meat is cheaper but try buying other things and you will find other things comparable to UK but you are not earning what you could in UK so therefore more expensive)

The real issue is that it is too damn far from everywhere - we recently had a friend who was very sick - if we were in europe etc or even the US, we would have hopped on plane for a few days - the time it takes to get to UK and the cost would have made it worthwhile. From Australia - the cost of travel to Uk is in range of $1900 - 2700 depending on time of travel + it takes at least 1 day to get there and another 1to 2 to get over the jet lag.

You will hear that family and friends can always visit - they often do not - Australia may have great beaches - but you can get beaches closer to home - the time to travel and airfares put alot of people off visiting here. Also if you have aging parents - it can be a nigthmare. My mum who is over 70 had to have an xray done, a doctors medical report and then they insisted on medical insurance before they would grant her a 3 month visa.

In your shoes - i would hold off coming - only as having a young one means that you need all the support that you can get - this is easier when you have family and friends around you.


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