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Sally Aug 29th 2007 4:11 am

Re: Shoddy workmanship - do I complain?
 
When I was a lecturer we always had to say something positive with the negative to a student :)

You could try something like, " I wanted to let you know I'm very happy with the plastering you've done but there's just a little bit that looks uneven, could you come over and check it for me? I would be so happy to see everything just right."

Vanessa Aug 29th 2007 4:22 am

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Originally Posted by Sally (Post 5247306)
When I was a lecturer we always had to say something positive with the negative to a student :)

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When I did the DMS we used to call that a 'shit sandwich"!

Dorothy Aug 29th 2007 12:27 pm

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If you aren't happy and can't bear the thought of a confrontation, ask your OH to speak to him. Sometimes things that don't seem to be a big deal to others can be the one thing that just sends you over the edge. Renovations are a real pain in the ass and I'm sure you guys are fed up with your house being in a tizzy. Let the old man take care of it.

Hey, call me if you want to come up this weekend for a nice relaxing glass of wine. We've got lots and the fridge is fully stocked with beers for the boys. Now Connolly is open it's only a 5 minute drive from yours to mine.

busterboy Aug 29th 2007 12:33 pm

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 5246760)
As most are aware I am undergoing some renovations on my craphole of a home just now. The kitchen is in but some of the work done by the plasterer is shoddy and I am not sure I can live with it. I still have no cornice and he keeps letting me down to come and finish it off. How does one complain, if one complains at all - do I just live with the shoddy work? I haven't paid him a cent yet so the ball is firmly in my court but I don't like complaining.


Dear C

I can hardly believe what I am reading!

Once you have reservations on the quality of something, it will always be tainted for you.

Come on Lass, you have waited for this home improvement for a long time now, don't let shoddy plastering get in the way of your enjoyment of it.

Man up Girl! Tell him that if he works on recommendations, he won't be getting one from you but if it is fixed 'tout sweet' you might be more forthcoming with cash.

If you don't want to do it...I'll come over and approach the subject for you!

babybella Aug 29th 2007 12:34 pm

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 5247263)
Thanks everyone, everytime I look at it I just want to cry. I know it's hard to believe but I hate confrontation (well face to face stuff any road ;) ) so am not relishing the prospect of saying I am not happy - that's if the twirp actually every answers his phone or returns my calls.

I haven't posted on here for ages, but just had to say I am sitting on here avoiding the fact that I have to phone a plasterer/damp person back for the 3rd time and try to pin him done to a time to come back and look at his crap work that is peeling off the wall. Unfortunatly we have paid him!
Good luck to both of us
KAZ

pogsy Aug 29th 2007 12:47 pm

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Originally Posted by kaz Hen (Post 5248485)
I haven't posted on here for ages, but just had to say I am sitting on here avoiding the fact that I have to phone a plasterer/damp person back for the 3rd time and try to pin him done to a time to come back and look at his crap work that is peeling off the wall. Unfortunatly we have paid him!
Good luck to both of us
KAZ

Why don't you simply report shoddy work to the Department of Fair Trade, I thought thats why all us Trades had to jump through hoops to get our licenses, so that it was a guarantee to all customers about quality of work.

babybella Aug 29th 2007 12:50 pm

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Originally Posted by pogsy (Post 5248535)
Why don't you simply report shoddy work to the Department of Fair Trade, I thought thats why all us Trades had to jump through hoops to get our licenses, so that it was a guarantee to all customers about quality of work.

Well were in the UK but I'm sure their must be same type of thing here. Will check the ad, steal myself to call him AGAIN! and if no response report him, but at the end of the day that doesn't get my mess sorted.
KAZ

handbagmad Aug 29th 2007 12:51 pm

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I had the same problem with a guy that was laying our patio, he sounded as though he was very knowledgeable at the quote stage - I came home from work one day, he had started to build a curved wall, got to 4 bricks high. I'm no brickie but even I could see the curve was like a threpenny bit and the wall was leaning! I tel him and said I was not happy with the wall, he replied he had never had anyone complain before, I waited for him to say he would come and put it right to no avail, I SACKED HIM!! Paid him for clearing the ground only.

Like you I didn't like doing it - but they think their work is ok, it is your hard earned money that you are giving for poor workmanship. You have a lovely new kitchen being installed with crap plastering (that you will never be happy with). Give him the chance to put it right, if still not happy, get rid of him and pay him ONLY for the work he has done right.

Go on you can do it - good luck :)

northernbird Aug 29th 2007 12:52 pm

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Originally Posted by pogsy (Post 5248535)
Why don't you simply report shoddy work to the Department of Fair Trade, I thought thats why all us Trades had to jump through hoops to get our licenses, so that it was a guarantee to all customers about quality of work.

not entirely sure if plasterers are licenced trades here or not.

pogsy Aug 29th 2007 12:53 pm

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Originally Posted by kaz Hen (Post 5248546)
Well were in the UK but I'm sure their must be same type of thing here. Will check the ad, steal myself to call him AGAIN! and if no response report him, but at the end of the day that doesn't get my mess sorted.
KAZ

Ahhh! didn't realise you were in the UK, your right though, check to see if he is a member of any trade association.

Bobcat Aug 29th 2007 2:19 pm

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 5246760)
As most are aware I am undergoing some renovations on my craphole of a home just now. The kitchen is in but some of the work done by the plasterer is shoddy and I am not sure I can live with it. I still have no cornice and he keeps letting me down to come and finish it off. How does one complain, if one complains at all - do I just live with the shoddy work? I haven't paid him a cent yet so the ball is firmly in my court but I don't like complaining.

Sorry to hear you have been let down :thumbdown:

We had the exact opposite happen to us re our patio installers :thumbup:

They turned up earlier than expected and i hadn't prepared the fascia board. My lads mucked in and finished that off and then the rain started. Rain didn't stop this team from getting stuck in............ in just 2 days our patio which is massive; was finito.

Excellent job, top quality finish by first-class tradesmen. Only problem we had with this team was they were reluctant to stop for a cuppa......... we had to force them to have a tea break?

If they'd have cocked it up........... I think I would be telling all and sundry same. I think you need to drop a subtle hint to your craftsman in the hope he will rectify the cowboy part of your job; if he has any sense he will?

In my game I cannot even afford one disgruntled client because word spreads like wildfire. I rely heavily on repeat business and referrals; one disgruntled client could send me under as reputation is everything in our industry.

Likewise; if your tradesman has any sense and wants more work............ he would share the same opinion I have?

Hope your 'spread' comes back soon and fixes up the bodgy work so it is to your liking?

northernbird Aug 29th 2007 10:56 pm

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Originally Posted by Bobcat (Post 5248904)
Sorry to hear you have been let down :thumbdown:

We had the exact opposite happen to us re our patio installers :thumbup:

They turned up earlier than expected and i hadn't prepared the fascia board. My lads mucked in and finished that off and then the rain started. Rain didn't stop this team from getting stuck in............ in just 2 days our patio which is massive; was finito.

Excellent job, top quality finish by first-class tradesmen. Only problem we had with this team was they were reluctant to stop for a cuppa......... we had to force them to have a tea break?

If they'd have cocked it up........... I think I would be telling all and sundry same. I think you need to drop a subtle hint to your craftsman in the hope he will rectify the cowboy part of your job; if he has any sense he will?

In my game I cannot even afford one disgruntled client because word spreads like wildfire. I rely heavily on repeat business and referrals; one disgruntled client could send me under as reputation is everything in our industry.

Likewise; if your tradesman has any sense and wants more work............ he would share the same opinion I have?

Hope your 'spread' comes back soon and fixes up the bodgy work so it is to your liking?

Thanks Bob. So far the trades have been super. The floor removal company were excellent, the sparky and the plumber again great and I can't speak highly enough of the bloke that fitted the kitchen. Just hope I can get the 2 issues I am not happy with sorted and the fact I still have no cornice and my granite benchtops go in next wednesday!

Siren & Brian Aug 29th 2007 11:02 pm

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 5250992)
Thanks Bob. So far the trades have been super. The floor removal company were excellent, the sparky and the plumber again great and I can't speak highly enough of the bloke that fitted the kitchen. Just hope I can get the 2 issues I am not happy with sorted and the fact I still have no cornice and my granite benchtops go in next wednesday!

But if the bench tops are not on what are they going to stand on when putting up the cornice :p

northernbird Aug 29th 2007 11:04 pm

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Originally Posted by Siren & Brian (Post 5251016)
But if the bench tops are not on what are they going to stand on when putting up the cornice :p

not my bleedin benchtops I can tell you! :lol:

nightnurse2 Aug 30th 2007 1:04 am

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 5251027)
not my bleedin benchtops I can tell you! :lol:

LOL


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