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Old Oct 9th 2012, 2:07 am
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Originally Posted by go4it
And the money you can earn is similar to what you can in Oz.
I would dearly love to see some evidence on this. In my experience, and with the near 1:1 conversion, US salaries are a lot less than in Oz.

Remember house prices took a massive fall a few years back and borrowing is not so easy - hence the house prices have not recovered and may never do.
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Originally Posted by commonwealth
with a high AUD one is tempted to make the move.
Why would anyone not want to earn a currency that is worth more?
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Old Oct 9th 2012, 2:14 am
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Why would anyone not want to earn a currency that is worth more?
fear it will come crashing down
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Originally Posted by commonwealth
fear it will come crashing down

Yeah, cashing out while it's high is getting awfully tempting...


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Default Re: Sharp rise in people leaving Australia?

Originally Posted by Beoz
I would dearly love to see some evidence on this. In my experience, and with the near 1:1 conversion, US salaries are a lot less than in Oz.
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You also tend to only get two weeks annual leave. I'll give it a miss thanks. Not that 99% of us would get in, even if we wanted to.
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Default Re: Sharp rise in people leaving Australia?

Originally Posted by Beoz
I would dearly love to see some evidence on this. In my experience, and with the near 1:1 conversion, US salaries are a lot less than in Oz.

Remember house prices took a massive fall a few years back and borrowing is not so easy - hence the house prices have not recovered and may never do.
Absolutely my experience, US salaries are lower and they have more compulsory deductions than Australia as well. Also, local taxes can be very high especially property tax and let's not go anywhere near health insurance. They get away with it because consumer prices are so low. And throw in Moneypenny's observation about leave and it's a big no thanks from me. By the way they have no statutory leave at all, not even two weeks, and it;s entirely left to employer discretion, which is usually 5 days in crap jobs, 10 days in average jobs.
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Old Oct 9th 2012, 4:23 am
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Originally Posted by aussietobe
I the majority of Western countries, the population is only going up because of immigration. The natural birth rate is static or in some places, falling.
Not only western counties either. Japan is experiencing the most rapid decline in population. But Korea and China will also show serious losses in the years ahead.
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Old Oct 9th 2012, 4:28 am
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Originally Posted by Swerv-o
I was thinking Prague actually

I'd move there in a heartbeat, but sadly my Czech is decidedly lacking...


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There are many cities in Europe with similarities to Prague. Places with life,energy and vibe.
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Originally Posted by the troubadour
There are many cities in Europe with similarities to Prague. Places with life,energy and vibe.
Yeah, Bratislava being one, and Tallinn being another.

Yup, life, energy and vibe.


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Originally Posted by chris955
I have noticed a very different 'look' to Australia in the last 20 or so years, when we first arrived in Australia back in the early 60's it would be rare indeed to see an Asian face whereas now especially if you go to certain areas it is rare to see a caucasian face. I think it enrichens a society but unfortunately not everyone shares that view.
It does inded enrichen society. Australia is a different country completely from the period you speak about.
I suspect the change are still in there early days yet. How it will fan out with so many rich and/or highly skilled folk from the region coming in and the influence that will allow them,I'm not sure.
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Yeah, Bratislava being one, and Tallinn being another.

Yup, life, energy and vibe.


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Don't know any of the cities you mention. Obviously I know where they are,just never been. I was thinking..... Berlin,Lisbon,Barcelona,Hamburg,Amsterdam........a nd others. Really a different world.
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Originally Posted by the troubadour
Don't know any of the cities you mention. Obviously I know where they are,just never been. I was thinking..... Berlin,Lisbon,Barcelona,Hamburg,Amsterdam........a nd others. Really a different world.

Yeah, I was limiting my responses to small cities, as the previous poster had flagged up that the UK only had one city that was larger than Sydney.

I take your point that these are true world cities, and having been to many of them, I can safely say that Sydney just doesn't stack up to them. Like I said before - it's just a big coastal town with a bridge and an opera house.


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Default Re: Sharp rise in people leaving Australia?

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Yeah, I was limiting my responses to small cities, as the previous poster had flagged up that the UK only had one city that was larger than Sydney.

I take your point that these are true world cities, and having been to many of them, I can safely say that Sydney just doesn't stack up to them. Like I said before - it's just a big coastal town with a bridge and an opera house.


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Verry funny. Sydney is an incredibly rich city, especially in comparison to most of the cities you mentioned. This city is loaded with wealth.

And in all those other countries you have listed, very few of them would accept you as a member of society, you would always be a filthy foreigner to them. They tend to be corrupt and openly violent. I have personally been in Budapest when neo-nazis were going around killing Gypsies.
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Now is the time, the FX rate and house prices would be key. No doubt about it.

Originally Posted by Swerv-o
Yeah, I was limiting my responses to small cities, as the previous poster had flagged up that the UK only had one city that was larger than Sydney.

I take your point that these are true world cities, and having been to many of them, I can safely say that Sydney just doesn't stack up to them. Like I said before - it's just a big coastal town with a bridge and an opera house.


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I think it depends on what you do, too.

The status of a city comes up alot on BE - with different people discussing what it means to them. I can see where people are coming from. Maybe Australian cities have small CBDs and large burbs which make them feel smaller than they are.

To be honest, I would rather live in Melbourne than in B'Ham or Manchester.
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Originally Posted by Mr Grumpy
Verry funny. Sydney is an incredibly rich city, especially in comparison to most of the cities you mentioned. This city is loaded with wealth.

And in all those other countries you have listed, very few of them would accept you as a member of society, you would always be a filthy foreigner to them. They tend to be corrupt and openly violent. I have personally been in Budapest when neo-nazis were going around killing Gypsies.

It may well be loaded with wealth, but that doesn't stop it from being an ultimately dull and superficial place.

I also wasn't saying that the other places were paradises - just that, for small cities, they seem to have a much more vibrant and dynamic way of life about them.


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