mrsgreenstar76

Truth be told, I tend to take anything from the Daily Mail with a large quantity of salt! I do get your point though.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

No taxation without representation.... unless you're a 457.

Bermudashorts

I am on a PR visa and also have to pay taxes but don't get a say in government or their policy. If I decide that is intolerable to me, then I can leave.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

Do you get to vote?

Amazulu

Simple solution - become PR. Our government makes no secret of the fact that 457 is a temporary visa and that 'benefits' are limited - as they should be. I personally don't agree with what NSW does, but in Australia, states are responsible for most education policy, and if they want to do this then it is up to them.

Dreamy

Not as a PR, no.

Hopefully the Government isn't going to do anything too stupid in the next few weeks so we get our citizenship ceremony in the bag before the next election

mrsgreenstar76

If you dislike it that much, leave. If you didn't want to be on a temporary visa with such restrictions, you shouldn't have accepted the sponsorship.

+1

fish.01

I imagine the reason you must still pay for schooling even if you send your child to a private school is because, unlike most countries, private schools are subsidised by the govt so they are still paying towards the child's education.

Bermudashorts

No, only citizens get to vote.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

Perhaps I should point out that I'm an Australian citizen.

Margaret3

Then once the temporary resident becomes permenant, shouldnt they get an education refund, as one would assume they came on temporary with an aim to being permenant

mrsgreenstar76

Yet you seem to be getting your knickers in a twist about something that doesn't affect you. The point still stands though. If a 457 holder doesn't like the conditions, they're not forced to stay.

No, because 457s are meant to be a temporary migration solution. The fact that the migrant has the intention of becoming PR eventually is irrelevant. In the eyes of the Australian government, 457s are temporary, & those on them would logically be heading home afterwards. I agree that lots of 457 holders wind up going to more secure visas, but if they really want to avoid the charges that they know about (or should know about) before they move, then they should go for PR instead. They have a choice - jump the queue & get to Australia quicker on a 457 - but pay the hefty school fees, or wait in the GSM queue with everyone else & go for PR.

I notice the OP has disappeared. Successful troll was successful.

iamthecreaturefromuranus

That's your view. My, equally valid view, is that NSW and the ACT see 457's as a cash cow to be milked, know that they have no comeback at all.

mrsgreenstar76

Maybe so, but that's the price of a temporary visa.

JAJ

NSW has long been unhappy with the level of immigration into the state. As far as I am aware, the state public policy is to encourage temporary residents to settle in other states where possible.

As for allegedly breaching a UN treaty, there is absolutely no evidence that NSW/ACT are causing Australia to breach its international commitments. Many countries do give preference in the education system to their own citizens. And in any case, UN treaties are generally aspirational in nature and do not give a foreign authority the right to interfere in Australian domestic concerns. It is not like the European Union.