Salaries in Australia / Comparision With UK
 

Hi,

Salaries in Australia, are quite lower than what people earn in UK?People get London allowance if they are working in London but in Australia there is nothing like Sydney Allowance even if they are working in Sydney?

Usually in UK people earn around GBP3500 per month(after taxes) but in Australia(Sydney) the same person may earn AUD$2100 per month (after taxes). If u are planning to move to Australia then u have to compromise over the salary and allowances?Please comment

Thanks,

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Can you check your numbers and denominations. Plus, by usually do you mean average?

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Usually means average person living in London (with London allowance).

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In my experience, 4 yrs in London working in Recruitment, a fairly small percentage of people ever took home GBP3500 per month(after taxes)!! Not sure where you get your figures from....but in real terms I would love to know the REAL percentage of those that ever took home that kind of money.

My Hubby as a mechanic never even came close, friends of mine who work for the NHS as an Accountant never came close to that kind of money. Another friend who was a Auto Spray painter never took home that kind of money. My FIL was a Sargent in the Police Force and he never took home that kind of money. Pretty good cross section of people all living and working in and around London. No one I know ever took home that kind of money.

As for the $2100 in Australia. I work for a Student Association as an Employment Officer. I take that home and I have no formal Qualifications. I dare say that figure you quoted is quite a bit lower than what the majority take home.

I am pretty sure I know the reactions you were after by posting your OP. But you aint gonna get it from me.... :rolleyes:

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Gotta agree with Hels. The figures you came up with are way out.

Paul.

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Forget about the figures, there are no allowances on salaries like London allowances even if u are working in Sydney.

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maybe not officially, but i would expect between $20-30K more for doing the same job in sydney that i currently do in brisbane.

back to the figures again, i would be surprised if the average wage in london is £50,000, and equally surprised to find the average wage in sydney was only $36,000!!

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With the current PAYE rates, someone taking home £3,500 would have to be earning at least £63,000 a year (unless they were putting large amounts into their pension - in which case they would not really be taking home £3,500).

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I've done alot of IT recruitment in Australia this year and I believe salaries are about 20-40% lower there - depending on the skill set. Sydney obviously commands a premium but not enough to compensate for the increased costs of living there - in my opinion.

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Usually in the UK people earn around GBP3500 per month after tax????????
They got any jobs going at that firm?
Bad information source methinks dude!

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I work in IT in London and am planning to move to Melbourne.

I have compared my basic salary here now to what the salary surveys say I should earn in Oz. It seems that my ozzie salary is calculated as follows -

Salary in pounds x 1.5 = salary in AU$.

What I mean is, for every £10,000 I earn here I expect to earn AU$15,000 in Oz.



Would anyone like to comment on this estimate?

Cheers

Buzzy

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Are you sure that you haven't got the figures around the wrong way? £2100 for UK $3500 for Aus?

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It depends what you do. If you're senior management or have some hot skill set I'd say yes. For normal operations or development jobs I'd say 1000ukp = 1500 Aus$ is very optimistic... in my experience.

Only a few managers in our Australian IT organization make more than $60k, but I've got plenty of people in the UK on more than 40k ukp. 1000ukp = 1200 Aus$ would seem like more realistic estimate. But this is only my experience in my company and your mileage may vary...

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I earn slightly more in Aus than i did in the UK. With two yearly bonuses i would exceed what i earned in the UK, but i never count on bonuses. :D

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Show off :D - Although Hungry Jacks do pay better then McDonalds;);):D

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As you say, it varies wildly, but for me 1000ukp = 2300Aus$. So there seems to be a range of 1Ukp to 1.2 ->2.3 Aus$ depending on the skills you have and the job you land.

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Yeah - it is all relative. There are always people on money that others can't believe. There are plenty earning a lot less.

You cannot convert. Simple as that.

Examples:
Most managers would be earning 70-100 in Melly probably. Managers in Tech seem to earn 60-70k. Developers 50-100k dependent on age and seniority.
Even a senior secretary can earn 50,000 in Sydney. 35k -50k would be someone in an admin or support job with varying degrees of experience.

In my experience, professionals in Australia are not as in desperate straights as is often portrayed; but tradies are! The reverse of what people think. The very highest salaries in London beat Sydney and Melly hands down but not everyone is on that highest bracket, maybe it's 20pc limited to verticals like banking; London is a world banking centre.

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Have a hub in IT. Left UK in 2000. Was on 35k pounds. MOved to Sydney and earned 85k aus dollars. managed easily but that was a few years back adn maybe things gone up now.
currently live in nz. still in IT on 100k nz dollars. goes nowhere! oh well. hope it gives you and idea.

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how did you know? only joking i'm great at what i do me. :D

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I am a nurse/ midwife and in UK with 9 years experience I earned around 9 pounds a hour basic thats for a 3 year diploma and 18 month degree course too! :( in oz got paid about $24. an hour, this worked out about the same. Considering all the lower costs of living, this went much further in oz!

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Almost bang on mate, an Environmental Health officer in London can expect to earn around 33K and in Australia around $50K. If you compare salary v ave house price plus food bill and running a car the actual cost of living is not that different in relative terms.

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I agree Mercador, my husband is in I.T and based on his skill set and having friends in exactly the same jobs over there, we are lookng at 20-25% less, which is fine by us.

He pays £600 a month just on transport into London, I would imagine his bus fare into the CBD will be no more than $10 a day or $200 a month, for us the sums seem to work.

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Thats confusing as many on here say that food and cars aint cheap over there

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I think there a major difference depends on type of job. i.e

a job where you earn whatever you can negotiate is very difficult to compare; rather than a fixed payscale job.

eg..I am a part qual accountant. Here I earn £15 ph = £29K per annum. My next job here could quite easily pay £12 ph= £24K per annum.

In Sydney...from looking at lots of adverts....
I am expecting between $45-55K (£20k to £25k)

So from these figures...you can see that in my field in Sydney...I can expect 20% less.

HOWEVER..and its a BIG however...and to contradict what I have just written..

these figures are TOTALLY irrelevent...as these are taking fX into account. One should take fX into account ONLY when changing money etc

One should always look at DISPOSBLE income.

Look at you take home in each city...then deduct bills/cost of living.

THEN see what you are left with.

Even then, you can't compare these 2 figures. You should look at what you would be using this disposable income for. i.e saving for kids uni fees in the future. look at bank interest rates etc.

You could even forecast what you should have saved by the time you retire.

To sum up...Its all about what standard of living you want in life.

Always....FORECAST....to get the real picture.

Personally...i could never live mortgage free in a detached house with pool in London.

However, in Sydney...I am 10 years max away from realising this dream!

TC ;)

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There not, we have just brought a brand new Honda CRV and it cost the equivalent of GBP 14,000, we spend $100 per week on food which as a percentage of our wages is about the same the same with housing. We paid 25% of our income on a UK mortgage and will again here. I am not making a comparison of the price of things in Oz rather than the UK rather the cost of things relative to our wages here and in the UK and they are roughly about the same.

I know what I mean ;)

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Wages in the construction Industry in Perth are up 13% this year. The highest of all the Industries.
I earn more here and no longer have a mortgage, so for my family and I Australia works. (plus the weather is nicer :) )

Cost of living is much the same, but eating out is cheaper.
A large Dominoes pizza is only $5 for example.

Wages in IT are less than the UK though I believe.

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This thread is perfect timing for me as I am researching salary level for in Australia!!!

I am leaving for Sydney on Feb 4th. When I quit work I told them I want to work in Sydney office for 5 years, employed under local terms and conditions, then option to stay in Sydney office or return to London office. If I asked them for a transfer they would have said no way. They have in principle said yes, however I have to agree local terms and conditions with Sydney office.

I am researching what my salary should be. Take a look at:
a) http://www.robertwalters.com/salarysurvey/Default.jsp You can compare your job description salary level in UK to Melbourne/
b) Michael Page has salary survey for 05 http://www.michaelpage.co.uk/control...ectionid=10124
c) http://www.hays.com.au/ also has Aus salary survey

My HR dept in UK told me this is just indication only, but some good baseline. I should also send CV to head hunter and ask them for some idea of what to expect as sometimes you get premium for specialist skill.

I expect my salary to be lower than in London. Sydney is an expensive city, but not as expensive as London. I am happy to take a cut in salary for a better quality of life.

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I have compared my basic salary here now to what the salary surveys say I should earn in Oz. It seems that my ozzie salary is calculated as follows -

Salary in pounds x 1.5 = salary in AU$.

What I mean is, for every £10,000 I earn here I expect to earn AU$15,000 in Oz.



Would anyone like to comment on this estimate?

Hi Buzzby

I'm currently in recruitment in the Uk, moving to BrisVegas in Jan. My salary is £30k in the Uk, however, it is not commission based. However, my rec2rec agency in Brissie has told me with my 4 years experience, I should expect to earn a basic of AUS$65k with a first year OTE around AUS$85k.

Now that works out at a rate of £10'000 earned in the UK should translate into AUS$22'000.

Realistically, you should be getting more in Melbourne??

Make sure you hold out for a good offer, Recruitment seems to be very much in demand. I have 4 interviews arranged for when I arrive in Brisbane without even trying!

Hope this helps

Ben :)

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Appologies Buzzy bee,

I thought I read IT recruitment. Not sure about IT jobs, you maybe right?

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And If your rec agency told you that they could get you a job offering $40k...would u register with them?

I spent years believing rec agencies. Now I treat them with real scepticism.

TC

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All this Guestimation-the bottom line is that Oz has a higher Per Capita GDP than the UK-and then consider costs-(Aus per Capita GDP-3$38000, UK-£12000(I wonder whos better off??)
The truth is their are loads of 60-100 000K mid-range jobs in Syd or Melbourne-and certainly not just for the "elite".
There are a number of industries that pay better in Oz
1 Sales
2 Clerical work

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Fair Enough! Good Point

But the very same agency that set my expectations, is one of the companies I have an interview with? Anyway I guess I'll soon find out? :confused:

Cheers

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Just be careful.

Interviews for jobs are great
Interviews with Recruitment agencies are a waste of time.
It jsut another way for them to get people on their books

TC :)

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I'm hoping this is about right. I currently earn £49k in IT in London (admittedly for an investment bank) and start my new job in Dec for a Sydney based investment bank but the salary is $73k. I'm hoping that this amount will be enough and will not be a shock for me.

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February 16, 2005
UK average Wage £22,411
UK Capital City Average wage £30,984
Source: The Guardian UK - http://money.guardian.co.uk/pay/stor...415864,00.html

November 17, 2005
Australian average wage $53,000 a year
Australian Capital City average wage almost $62,000
Source: Channel 9 - http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=71971

National average converts at 2.36
Capital City average converts at 2.00

Wages vary tremendously.

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Sydney does have an allowance of an extra 10% on all others just for being in Sydney.

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So therefore on these figures that OZ and UK average wages are pretty much the same. (depends on the exchange rate of the day to which is more or less)

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My experience, FWIW...

I had a government job back home in Australia. I worked 25 hours a week, and was paid fortnightly. After two years in that job, I bought a fully-refurbished 1944 2-bedroom California bunglow on a quarter-acre block in one of the northern Perth suburbs (Western Australia) for the equivalent of £40,0000.

I have found that a similar property in my area of Britain would cost around £250,000-£280,000 which is utterly ridiculous.

I came to the UK in January 2004, having sold my house for a 40% profit and purchased an investment property to keep me in the Australian real estate market; that property has now doubled in value, and is paying for itself quite nicely.

It has taken me nearly two years to find a private sector job which pays as much as I earned back home, but for that salary I have to work 40 hours a week and am paid monthly, which is very inconvenient.

I could not possibly buy a house of any description on my UK salary - so it's just as well that my wife already had her own house when I met her - nor can I afford the same standard of living that I enjoyed back home in Australia.

UK pensions aren't worth the paper they're written on; I can't wait to return down under and start topping up my Aussie superannuation fund. :)

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Don't generalise.

My pension is worth a lot.

And I started getting it age 55 :cool:

G

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I apologise for generalising. :p

It's just that I couldn't help but notice Britan's current pension crisis.

Not to mention the NHS crisis.

And the Railtrack/Network Rail crisis.

Never mind. I'm sure it'll all work out in the end.

Somehow. :)