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Nicstids Sep 14th 2003 11:18 pm


Originally posted by lynnj
Hevs

Carisma chic

just to make you really sick i have just finished eating a buttery, i'm having to get my mum to send them down to me (we live in England) every week as i cant live without them, Diane thinks i should start up a buttery business when we get over there:D :D i hope you are settling in well and not missing the granite city too much (like you would?) at least you can see the scottish football over there, more than you get in england!!

Lynn
OK. Please put me out of my misery - what the heck is a buttery?!

lynnj Sep 15th 2003 12:05 am

Nicstids

a buttery is a morning roll from the north east of scotland with a taste beyond description, unfortunately they are not the healthiest of things being laden with fat and salt, but you would struggle to find an exiled aberdonian who wouldnt give their right arm for one.

I'm pregnant at the moment and after having been unable to eat or the last 4 months i have discovered that i can eat a buttery (also known as a rowie) in the morning and feel human again, hence the reason my mother has to post them down to me.

I hope that has cleared this up in your mind :D :D now dont get me started on mealie puddings and stovies or even a clootie dumpling...............................

Lynn

Redlichtie Sep 15th 2003 12:11 am


Originally posted by DianeOZ
Hi Charisma

Are you missing Butteries, White puddings & Stovies???

What is it about the high schools here? I am here but my kids are only wee?

Have fun
Diane :rolleyes:

Butteries, White Puddings, Stovies & Square Sausage mmmmmm all this talk of food is making me hungry. Although I still make Stovies every other week - Yes.....even when it's really hot.

;)

Badge Sep 15th 2003 12:51 am

Garrat

you're right. I never had any homework until I was 12. Apart from a passing vacation project (once!?) which IIRC I did the last week of the holiday..

bloody hell! if a pommie primary school teacher told my kids in "Year 2" to do any homework I'd tell her to get lost. And the Headmaster would have to come and see me personally to explain his actions.

The 14 old girl on the cattle station who didn't even go to school was streets ahead of Brit kids in maturity, confidence, social skills etc. Give me the Aussie system any day!

Badgers

PS I never did any homework but I was always top of my class -or 2nd - in most subjects. I'd always find a way of getting out of it.

Once I was asked to do a essay on whether the "Bog Man" was a fake or not. I opened and closed my essay with "I have looked at the facts and I have not made up my mind." I still got a glowing report.

I revised for all my GCSEs the night before the exam and passed in 8 subjects. Same for GCE A levels and my BA. Never did a stroke of work apart from exam sitting and an essay once a term and still got through the education system!!

It was what I was doing outside school that made me in the end. The sports, the interests etc.

lynnj Sep 15th 2003 1:06 am

Badgers

I too put in minimum effort and came out not too badly but i dont think things are quite as easy now, i dont mean as in how hard exams are etc, i mean more pressure to be the best and "getting by" not being good enough any more. That said i dont want my kids (7&5) having the pressure of lots of homework and exams in year 2, as a parent i dont want to miss out on the fun time with my kids by having to sit for an hour each per day doing their homework, they are in school from 0850 until 1530 every day and still we have to sit down every night for the guts of an hour for each child and do homework, not much fun time left.

Lynn

davidw Sep 15th 2003 1:13 am

i'm in perth, childless and happy. i agree kids here grow up in remarkable climate and scenery, but with the best will in the world think their career prospects will be immeasurably better in the UK. If they're going into the trades, there may be options here in Perth, but "white collar" kids may struggle. And I think this is true to some degree throughout Australia.

good luck!

david

lizzie m Sep 15th 2003 3:35 am

Re: returning for kids sake?
 
Hi there

I'm from Perth myself and have been living in London now for 12 years. I've recently had 2 babies (who are still under 2) and am surprise surprise, moving back to Perth. I'm having doubts about whether it will feel like the right decision too, given I know we have made a decision to go out there because we'll have family help from my parents and siblings, who also have their own toddlers. I am interested to read though, amongst quite a few of the reply's that that quality of life is great for kids but the education and lack of jobs may leave you feeling like the decision was a poor one.

I think it is worth noting that there are many very well read, interested and interesting white collar professionals that are educated in perth, and also find work in perth if they so desire. I think the one thing that may be worth considering is that people, especially australians because of their isolation, are adventurers, and I have found that although a great deal of aussies end up in London and New York as lawyers, doctors, bankers etc..... they often want to head back to Oz once they've had kids because you just can't beat the lifestyle. Fewer stresses mean a longer life surely. And that's a life that's in the sun with a load to offer.

And I don't know about you but I don't think I'm going to be lying on my deathbed wishing I'd spent more time working that great career.......

Good luck with your decisions


Originally posted by Wilf
There are people here going back because of the poor schooling for their kids here in Oz and you should also think about this: job prospects for your kids will not be as good in Oz (by a long way) as in the UK, especially if your kids are clever and go to university rather than just want to do a trade for a living. They may well want to leave Oz when they are in their 20s and go back to the UK - all the clever Ozzie kids leave for better prospects (including both my own kids) to the UK/USA - and then you will not have them around to enjoy their company (and any grandchildren they give you) when you are old. It is worth thinking what you are doing now - don't emigrate to OZ just because you are unhappy with the UK because you are doing something big when emigrating - much bigger than you might realise. Also, don't fall for the "You can always come back" rubbish - you will spend a lot of money on emigrating and you may get stuck and not be able to get the money or the energy to go back throuhg it all again to go back to the UK.

Don't get carried away by thinking "Oz is going to be so much better than here" because it is a very ordinary place to live once you have been here 2 years or so, and all you may get from your emigration is a new love for the UK when you remember how good it was compared to your new home.
;) :) ;) ;)

S/pick Sep 15th 2003 4:29 am

Just reading some of the posts. About the degree in social work(3 years) not being recognised. My friend is a social worker and this is normal for this 3 year degree not being recognised in Aus, US and apparently many other countries. A 4 year degree is much more noticed. I will ask her to explain the next time I speak with her.

The social services the Uk is under paid, under staff, under monitored and over worked .

ADELAIDE BOUND Sep 15th 2003 5:02 am

Re: returning for kids sake?
 

Originally posted by gottogo
We are looking at migrating probably to Perth next year. There have been so many posts on reasons why people return to the UK but most of them appear to relate to the adults. We were wondering if anyone returned because their kids couldn't settle over there. We are so sure this is the right move for us, but would have to consider coming back if the children were not happy (we have ages from 3 to 17). The lifestyle seems great for kids, but of course not all children love surfing or tennis. Any views?

Geoff
Hi All
We have a good friend in Liverpool who's son has left school 2 years. He has 6 A Levels. His only 2 Jobs since leaving school were working in
Mcdonalds and a Clothes store.
The young lad is polite, clean and honest with glowing shool leaving references. I have just managed to get him an Apprentiship with an Electrical company and he is thrilled to bits.
It was not what he knew that got him the job it was who I knew.
If that lad had been living in London, Companys would have been fighting over him to sign him up.
Depressing as it is there are still plenty of places in the UK away from the south that are unable to reward our children for obtaining excellent educational results and quite frankly have little or no prospects for the future.
If you live down south then you have an abundance of Job Prospects, Trouble is our young people will need to save for 6 to 8 years to enable them to put down a deposit for their first homes.
If your children can obtain a good standard of education for the country they are living in, then surely they will have as much opportunity as any other Australian for the vacant jobs when they complete their education.

Cheers :beer:


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