Reasons for migration - push or pull?
Apr 27th 2009 | 10:19 am
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Reasons for migration - push or pull?
People migrate from Great Britain to Australia for many reasons.
Some are pulled to Australia. They migrate because of the lure of sunshine, beaches and the great open spaces, or because family and friends are already there.
Others are pushed. They migrate to get away from a cold, gloomy climate and crime ridden overcrowded streets.
What drives (or has driven) the expats here to want to risk their life savings to migrate to Australia?
I will put my cards on the table and admit that after living in the UK for 15 years, having my kids educated there and being on the verge of getting my British Passport, I was "pushed" out by the downward spiral that commenced when New Labour got in. In that time I watched with astonishment as my motherland, turned into a 3rd world cesspit of strange languages on the street and a lack of common courtesy due to the benefits culture, young people running wild with no discipline due to the rubbish marxist education system, and the clash of different cultures and ethnic groups with no interest in living side by side in communal harmony.
My last two times living in the UK were based in Barking and before that in Lewisham. Therefore it is easy for me to relate to the following article (and yes its from the Daily Mail):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-Deptford.html
So what about other expats, are you migrating due to push or pull?
Some are pulled to Australia. They migrate because of the lure of sunshine, beaches and the great open spaces, or because family and friends are already there.
Others are pushed. They migrate to get away from a cold, gloomy climate and crime ridden overcrowded streets.
What drives (or has driven) the expats here to want to risk their life savings to migrate to Australia?
I will put my cards on the table and admit that after living in the UK for 15 years, having my kids educated there and being on the verge of getting my British Passport, I was "pushed" out by the downward spiral that commenced when New Labour got in. In that time I watched with astonishment as my motherland, turned into a 3rd world cesspit of strange languages on the street and a lack of common courtesy due to the benefits culture, young people running wild with no discipline due to the rubbish marxist education system, and the clash of different cultures and ethnic groups with no interest in living side by side in communal harmony.
My last two times living in the UK were based in Barking and before that in Lewisham. Therefore it is easy for me to relate to the following article (and yes its from the Daily Mail):
You gotta be kidding: New York Times tells U.S. tourists they MUST go to 'Wild West' Deptford
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 8:41 PM on 27th April 2009
Wealthy American tourists are being urged to visit a crime-plagued UK district which has been dubbed ‘London's Wild West', by a popular travel guide.
The New York Times travel section have named Deptford and New Cross as must-see destinations, to the bemusement of locals in the run-down part of south east London.
Potential holidaymakers were told Deptford High Street – which is packed with boarded up shops - is ‘blissfully free of chain stores’.
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 8:41 PM on 27th April 2009
Wealthy American tourists are being urged to visit a crime-plagued UK district which has been dubbed ‘London's Wild West', by a popular travel guide.
The New York Times travel section have named Deptford and New Cross as must-see destinations, to the bemusement of locals in the run-down part of south east London.
Potential holidaymakers were told Deptford High Street – which is packed with boarded up shops - is ‘blissfully free of chain stores’.
So what about other expats, are you migrating due to push or pull?
Apr 27th 2009 | 10:42 am
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Re: Reasons for migration - push or pull?
Greed
No seriously around 2000, austraila was freakingly cheap, most of our bills have trebled since then
Back then you could step off the plane, great exchange rate, houses a third of what they cost now, weather was crap melb mid winter, so we went to the gold coast, probably the typical migrants dream life
Frankly now it bores me to my bones, weve really been there done that so many times.......... Really a limit to what you can do and acheive here after a while... too isolated from rest of world, plus the narrow minded thinking population media etc.
Looking at ways to get out, not easy, current recession.
No seriously around 2000, austraila was freakingly cheap, most of our bills have trebled since then
Back then you could step off the plane, great exchange rate, houses a third of what they cost now, weather was crap melb mid winter, so we went to the gold coast, probably the typical migrants dream life
Frankly now it bores me to my bones, weve really been there done that so many times.......... Really a limit to what you can do and acheive here after a while... too isolated from rest of world, plus the narrow minded thinking population media etc.
Looking at ways to get out, not easy, current recession.
Apr 27th 2009 | 11:04 am
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Re: Reasons for migration - push or pull?
In that time I watched with astonishment as my motherland, turned into a 3rd world cesspit of strange languages on the street and a lack of common courtesy due to the benefits culture, young people running wild with no discipline due to the rubbish marxist education system, and the clash of different cultures and ethnic groups with no interest in living side by side in communal harmony.
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Apr 27th 2009 | 11:08 am
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Re: Reasons for migration - push or pull?
Greed
No seriously around 2000, austraila was freakingly cheap, most of our bills have trebled since then
Back then you could step off the plane, great exchange rate, houses a third of what they cost now, weather was crap melb mid winter, so we went to the gold coast, probably the typical migrants dream life
Frankly now it bores me to my bones, weve really been there done that so many times.......... Really a limit to what you can do and acheive here after a while... too isolated from rest of world, plus the narrow minded thinking population media etc.
Looking at ways to get out, not easy, current recession.
No seriously around 2000, austraila was freakingly cheap, most of our bills have trebled since then
Back then you could step off the plane, great exchange rate, houses a third of what they cost now, weather was crap melb mid winter, so we went to the gold coast, probably the typical migrants dream life
Frankly now it bores me to my bones, weve really been there done that so many times.......... Really a limit to what you can do and acheive here after a while... too isolated from rest of world, plus the narrow minded thinking population media etc.
Looking at ways to get out, not easy, current recession.
Apr 27th 2009 | 11:19 am
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Re: Reasons for migration - push or pull?
is not going to stack up with UK standards. We found the system/ages in Canada more suitable, however job situation there is not what it was ( recession ) and job offer we had was put on hold...
Apr 27th 2009 | 11:21 am
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Re: Reasons for migration - push or pull?
Neither really...and not because I hate "foreigners" non-white people or Tony Blair (though I must admit to a unhealthy hatred for that Howard bloke...thankfully he has gone...)
Love living in a vibrant city (Sydney) with different languages, cultures, people and things to learn...travel is my passion and I came for the adventure... I still love England and always will
Love living in a vibrant city (Sydney) with different languages, cultures, people and things to learn...travel is my passion and I came for the adventure... I still love England and always will
Apr 27th 2009 | 2:40 pm
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Re: Reasons for migration - push or pull?
Neither really...and not because I hate "foreigners" non-white people or Tony Blair (though I must admit to a unhealthy hatred for that Howard bloke...thankfully he has gone...)
Love living in a vibrant city (Sydney) with different languages, cultures, people and things to learn...travel is my passion and I came for the adventure... I still love England and always will
Love living in a vibrant city (Sydney) with different languages, cultures, people and things to learn...travel is my passion and I came for the adventure... I still love England and always will
its an adventure until the next one comes along
Apr 27th 2009 | 2:45 pm
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Re: Reasons for migration - push or pull?
Yep, agree with that. We never hated the UK and still think it has lots of good points, didn't think Oz was utopia, just wanted to push ourselves out of that comfortable rut that we had settled into. ILife had become very predictable and safe and we felt there was more to discover and enjoy out there.
We're not here for the long haul but whilst we are enjoying it (most of the time) and getting to see places and try new things, it's good for us.
Sam
We're not here for the long haul but whilst we are enjoying it (most of the time) and getting to see places and try new things, it's good for us.
Sam
