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neil248 Jul 18th 2011 10:27 am

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Alistair has just done the same thing

PaulandNic Jul 18th 2011 11:05 am

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Kinda

BadgeIsBack Jul 18th 2011 11:13 am

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Some good responses.

My answer is that it is really bad for the people who are feeling the pinch worst. Low income earners, who find themselves unable to compete or ask for high wages or compensation packages. New arrivals. People arriving with little or no capital.

For others, it's no big deal and the wheel still turns. For others, life is even easy.

Housing is out of kilter and ****ing immoral if you ask me. I don't like high house prices one bit. Even in the UK with declines they are still too high. And the FX rate is so poor that new arrivals are doing it tough.

Turban Explorer Jul 18th 2011 11:15 am

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Originally Posted by BadgeIsBack (Post 9502259)
Some good responses.

My answer is that it is really bad for the people who are feeling the pinch worst. Low income earners, who find themselves unable to compete or ask for high wages or compensation packages. New arrivals. People arriving with little or no capital.

For others, it's no big deal and the wheel still turns. For others, life is even easy.

Housing is out of kilter and ****ing immoral if you ask me. I don't like high house prices one bit. Even in the UK with declines they are still too high. And the FX rate is so poor that new arrivals are doing it tough.

I do hope you've used that Aussie-ism with a hint of parody!

Wendy Jul 18th 2011 12:20 pm

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Originally Posted by sonlymewalter (Post 9502126)
The UK is expensive and Aus is expensive but everyone makes a choice as to where they are prepared to live and the price they are prepared to pay to live there.

totally agree with that :thumbup:


I can't really compare how expensive the UK is now as I've been here too long, but I know when I visited the UK in November it wasn't as cheap as I thought it would be from comments I read on here.

One thing I do know is that I can't even begin to compare the life I have here with the one I left behind. I am now a single parent, earning under $50k a year and I've never been happier.

Sadly, it's not like that for everyone though.

seeingISbelieving Jul 18th 2011 12:34 pm

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My daughter tells me prices are horrific in Adelaide.

Incidentally, what's happened to the price of bananas in Oz. Gone through the roof, but still 'Cheap as chips' in the UK. Try a banana milkshake if your getting withdrawal symptoms :-)

Weebie Jul 18th 2011 3:39 pm

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Australia is not expensive more that the UK is not as expensive as people think it is. Australia is a lot more expensive than it was ten years ago but many places were. The current exchange rate is the killer that's the difference. Will it ever go back to 3-1? i very much doubt it. Australia is not the country it was when it exchange rate was 3-1.

lumpommer Jul 18th 2011 8:11 pm

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There are a lot of people struggling in Australia due to the extortionate cost of mortgage / rent and spiralling living costs.

A lot of people are living on rice or noodles just so that they can keep a roof over their heads.

Imagine being stuck over there with all your savings gone , low or no wage and a slim chance of getting out of this nightmare.

Be very careful before you make the move and ensure you have done your due dilligence.


:ohmy:

Grayling Jul 18th 2011 8:59 pm

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Originally Posted by neil248 (Post 9502147)
As for housing a 7% mortgage interest rate is probably normal and can't blame Australia that it has not ****** it's economy up unlike certain other countries.

Nothing to do with mortgages.....the price of housing is ridiculous

BadgeIsBack Jul 18th 2011 9:06 pm

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Originally Posted by lumpommer (Post 9503334)
A lot of people are living on rice or noodles just so that they can keep a roof over their heads.

He's 'aving a go at the Asians now!


Originally Posted by Turban Explorer (Post 9502266)
I do hope you've used that Aussie-ism with a hint of parody!

He he ...I believe the phrase is currency all over the English-speaking world..

Pollyana Jul 18th 2011 9:14 pm

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Originally Posted by seeingISbelieving (Post 9502426)
My daughter tells me prices are horrific in Adelaide.

Incidentally, what's happened to the price of bananas in Oz. Gone through the roof, but still 'Cheap as chips' in the UK. Try a banana milkshake if your getting withdrawal symptoms :-)

And its nearly cyclone season again, wave bye bye to the bananas now :eek:

chris955 Jul 18th 2011 10:52 pm

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Australia has become very expensive in the last 10 years and especially the last 5. It has absolutely nothing to do with the exchange rate, 99% of people here wouldn't know or care what the rate was. Food, utilities, housing, running a car etc have all gone up A LOT. We bought well less than half a trolley load of groceries yesterday and it cost $144. Australia has the fastest growing grocery prices in the developed world and it is clear to see. Some will put their fingers in their ears and say 'nah nah nah, I can't hear you' but as someone who grew up here I can tell you it is a fact.
That shouldn't put people off coming but everyone should be aware. This is no longer a cheap country to live in for anyone not just immigrants that look at the exchange rate.
I was in England late last year and many things without a doubt are cheaper in real terms, lots of food was much cheaper. Some things were more of course.

chris955 Jul 18th 2011 10:55 pm

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Yes the battlers are doing it tough and it's UnAustralian I tell ya :)


Originally Posted by Turban Explorer (Post 9502266)
I do hope you've used that Aussie-ism with a hint of parody!


xzibit Jul 18th 2011 11:34 pm

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Originally Posted by chris955 (Post 9503599)
Australia has become very expensive in the last 10 years and especially the last 5. It has absolutely nothing to do with the exchange rate, 99% of people here wouldn't know or care what the rate was. Food, utilities, housing, running a car etc have all gone up A LOT. We bought well less than half a trolley load of groceries yesterday and it cost $144. Australia has the fastest growing grocery prices in the developed world and it is clear to see. Some will put their fingers in their ears and say 'nah nah nah, I can't hear you' but as someone who grew up here I can tell you it is a fact.
That shouldn't put people off coming but everyone should be aware. This is no longer a cheap country to live in for anyone not just immigrants that look at the exchange rate.
I was in England late last year and many things without a doubt are cheaper in real terms, lots of food was much cheaper. Some things were more of course.

I find doing the weekly shop and filling the car with fuel after costs roughly the same as it did for us in the UK earlier this year before we came over. Food is cheaper in UK, but the fuel is far more expensive, so it evens out.

RenShen Jul 18th 2011 11:48 pm

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I have llived on the Gold Coast for the last 3 years and recently visited the North West of England. We were staying with family so still did the grocery shop etc.

I found that food was cheaper in the UK, but of a much lower standard. For example, the fruit and veg in the supermarkets looked like the colour was muted, the meat looked brown.

However, Australia is not so expensive that the difference is massive. I find if you shop around and buy sensibly its OK. Also, we had much more waste when we were in the UK, I buy in a more savvy way here so there is less waste. We also eat much less processed food here which has to be better for us (its just a bit more labour intensive to prepare). The shops here do not carry all of the ready meals, ready prepared veggies etc to the extent of the UK shops.


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