Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
Sep 2nd 2005, 6:58 pm
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Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
If I post on here and say that my life in OZ isn’t as good as I expected before I came to here– am I posting real life? You betcha !
If I post on here and say that my life in OZ is better than I expected before I came to here– am I posting real life? You betcha !
So why do we have so many arguments on this forum about who's experience is more "real" ?
For the record I moved back to OZ after 24 years away and my life is much better than I expected! Is that real life, rose tinted sunnies, both or neither?
If I post on here and say that my life in OZ is better than I expected before I came to here– am I posting real life? You betcha !
So why do we have so many arguments on this forum about who's experience is more "real" ?
For the record I moved back to OZ after 24 years away and my life is much better than I expected! Is that real life, rose tinted sunnies, both or neither?
Sep 2nd 2005, 7:01 pm
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Re: Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
keep enjoying 
Sep 2nd 2005, 7:26 pm
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Re: Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
i think its how people write their experiences on here. if they come on and slag off australia/nz/usa/canada/uk and go back to their previous life, people dont want to read it, even if it is that persons own thoughts and perceptions.
if somebody posted that it isnt working out for them in their new country and are moving back but without the slagging off, folk are a little more receptive.
everyone has stories to tell, good and bad, and we should listen to all and respect all. but, people also have their dreams to aspire to and they dont like their dreams to be tarnished in any way, shape or form. this includes people that have gone overseas, didnt like it for whatever reason, bad mouth the country they went to because of their own experiences, and then proceed to tell people the reasons why.
it is interesting to hear the negative as well as the positive, but at the end of the day, everyone expectations are different and you wont know whether is suits you until you try it.
i hope that makes sense?
i will read threads about people moving back, but if it starts to bet bitter, then i wont read them. my choice. negativity breeds negativity.
if somebody posted that it isnt working out for them in their new country and are moving back but without the slagging off, folk are a little more receptive.
everyone has stories to tell, good and bad, and we should listen to all and respect all. but, people also have their dreams to aspire to and they dont like their dreams to be tarnished in any way, shape or form. this includes people that have gone overseas, didnt like it for whatever reason, bad mouth the country they went to because of their own experiences, and then proceed to tell people the reasons why.
it is interesting to hear the negative as well as the positive, but at the end of the day, everyone expectations are different and you wont know whether is suits you until you try it.
i hope that makes sense?
i will read threads about people moving back, but if it starts to bet bitter, then i wont read them. my choice. negativity breeds negativity.
Sep 2nd 2005, 8:22 pm
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Re: Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
Originally Posted by Vegemite Kids
If I post on here and say that my life in OZ isn’t as good as I expected before I came to here– am I posting real life? You betcha !
If I post on here and say that my life in OZ is better than I expected before I came to here– am I posting real life? You betcha !
So why do we have so many arguments on this forum about who's experience is more "real" ?
For the record I moved back to OZ after 24 years away and my life is much better than I expected! Is that real life, rose tinted sunnies, both or neither?
If I post on here and say that my life in OZ is better than I expected before I came to here– am I posting real life? You betcha !
So why do we have so many arguments on this forum about who's experience is more "real" ?
For the record I moved back to OZ after 24 years away and my life is much better than I expected! Is that real life, rose tinted sunnies, both or neither?
...i am tempted to put my rose tinted sunnies on......hehehehe....cos if this is real life..then give me the rose view anytime.....*S*
Sep 2nd 2005, 9:28 pm
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Re: Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
Whatever. Don't really have a problem with rose tinteds anyway. Need something to keep the sun out of your eyes. 
Sep 2nd 2005, 9:28 pm
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Re: Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
EH!
You always want what you haven't got however, my sisters have it and they say it is it great, so I want some of that please, two helpings if I can get it.
Lace x
You always want what you haven't got however, my sisters have it and they say it is it great, so I want some of that please, two helpings if I can get it.
Lace x
Sep 2nd 2005, 9:55 pm
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Re: Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
[QUOTE=Sleeping Beauty]i think its how people write their experiences on here. if they come on and slag off australia/nz/usa/canada/uk and go back to their previous life, people dont want to read it, even if it is that persons own thoughts and perceptions.
if somebody posted that it isnt working out for them in their new country and are moving back but without the slagging off, folk are a little more receptive.
everyone has stories to tell, good and bad, and we should listen to all and respect all. but, people also have their dreams to aspire to and they dont like their dreams to be tarnished in any way, shape or form. this includes people that have gone overseas, didnt like it for whatever reason, bad mouth the country they went to because of their own experiences, and then proceed to tell people the reasons why.
QUOTE]
Some years ago there was a large family who emigrated from the UK how did a MAJOR dummy spit on national TV about Australia. Admitted things had gone wrong for them, the company that had offered the specialised job was bought out and closed up by another company, a child had a rare medical condition for which there were few specialists in OZ, etc.
Their disappointment was more than obvious, but the dummy spit was something else.
By the end of the interview, you could almost here the rousing chorus from the Australia population of "Pick me! Pick me! Pick me to drive them to the airport!!"
About 4-6 weeks later there was a postscript to the story. The family had quietly returned to OZ to live.
For them, I hope that where ever they now live has worked out for them.
WW
if somebody posted that it isnt working out for them in their new country and are moving back but without the slagging off, folk are a little more receptive.
everyone has stories to tell, good and bad, and we should listen to all and respect all. but, people also have their dreams to aspire to and they dont like their dreams to be tarnished in any way, shape or form. this includes people that have gone overseas, didnt like it for whatever reason, bad mouth the country they went to because of their own experiences, and then proceed to tell people the reasons why.
QUOTE]
Some years ago there was a large family who emigrated from the UK how did a MAJOR dummy spit on national TV about Australia. Admitted things had gone wrong for them, the company that had offered the specialised job was bought out and closed up by another company, a child had a rare medical condition for which there were few specialists in OZ, etc.
Their disappointment was more than obvious, but the dummy spit was something else.
By the end of the interview, you could almost here the rousing chorus from the Australia population of "Pick me! Pick me! Pick me to drive them to the airport!!"
About 4-6 weeks later there was a postscript to the story. The family had quietly returned to OZ to live.
For them, I hope that where ever they now live has worked out for them.
WW
Sep 2nd 2005, 10:54 pm
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Re: Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
Generally people invoke the expression "Rose tinted" or various "brigrades" when their side of the story or argument has lost its legs. As you have highlighted, people's realities are different and nobody's reality is more real than anyone else's.
I reckon that there should be a "rose tinted" version of Godwin's Law in which people automatically lose the argument if they mention the words "rose tinted" or "brigade". I think this could be called Al's Law.
A
I reckon that there should be a "rose tinted" version of Godwin's Law in which people automatically lose the argument if they mention the words "rose tinted" or "brigade". I think this could be called Al's Law.
A
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Sep 2nd 2005, 11:04 pm
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Re: Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
[QUOTE=wanderingwombat]
I remember that!!!! it certainly didn't do much good did it....and yes i was one of the ones jumping in my car to go pick them and drive them to the airport myself!!!....LOL...
i agree too ..i hope all has worked out for them aswell.!
Originally Posted by Sleeping Beauty
i think its how people write their experiences on here. if they come on and slag off australia/nz/usa/canada/uk and go back to their previous life, people dont want to read it, even if it is that persons own thoughts and perceptions.
if somebody posted that it isnt working out for them in their new country and are moving back but without the slagging off, folk are a little more receptive.
everyone has stories to tell, good and bad, and we should listen to all and respect all. but, people also have their dreams to aspire to and they dont like their dreams to be tarnished in any way, shape or form. this includes people that have gone overseas, didnt like it for whatever reason, bad mouth the country they went to because of their own experiences, and then proceed to tell people the reasons why.
QUOTE]
Some years ago there was a large family who emigrated from the UK how did a MAJOR dummy spit on national TV about Australia. Admitted things had gone wrong for them, the company that had offered the specialised job was bought out and closed up by another company, a child had a rare medical condition for which there were few specialists in OZ, etc.
Their disappointment was more than obvious, but the dummy spit was something else.
By the end of the interview, you could almost here the rousing chorus from the Australia population of "Pick me! Pick me! Pick me to drive them to the airport!!"
About 4-6 weeks later there was a postscript to the story. The family had quietly returned to OZ to live.
For them, I hope that where ever they now live has worked out for them.
WW
if somebody posted that it isnt working out for them in their new country and are moving back but without the slagging off, folk are a little more receptive.
everyone has stories to tell, good and bad, and we should listen to all and respect all. but, people also have their dreams to aspire to and they dont like their dreams to be tarnished in any way, shape or form. this includes people that have gone overseas, didnt like it for whatever reason, bad mouth the country they went to because of their own experiences, and then proceed to tell people the reasons why.
QUOTE]
Some years ago there was a large family who emigrated from the UK how did a MAJOR dummy spit on national TV about Australia. Admitted things had gone wrong for them, the company that had offered the specialised job was bought out and closed up by another company, a child had a rare medical condition for which there were few specialists in OZ, etc.
Their disappointment was more than obvious, but the dummy spit was something else.
By the end of the interview, you could almost here the rousing chorus from the Australia population of "Pick me! Pick me! Pick me to drive them to the airport!!"
About 4-6 weeks later there was a postscript to the story. The family had quietly returned to OZ to live.
For them, I hope that where ever they now live has worked out for them.
WW
i agree too ..i hope all has worked out for them aswell.!
Sep 2nd 2005, 11:16 pm
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Re: Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
The themes that seem to cause meltdown and sense of humour failure are
- 'its like this in 'australia' ' - when australia is the size of Europe and Perth is not the same as brisbane or Sydney or Adelaide or Cairns or Towombawochyshire
- everything is expensive/cheap in australia - when some things are and some things aren't
- 'most people go back' vs 'most people stay'.
Ie its all generalisation. People posting well balanced and qualified opinions dont get their threads mauled around (except by trolls).
When we were in uK I was reading this avidly and having never been to Aus before it formed a large part of my perception of this country. Now that I live here it incenses me that people pedal rubbish without quantifying it ie 'schools are crap' vs 'schools in my suburb in perth in wa are crap- but I dont know what anywhere else is like'. Perhaps Im beng dumb in not remembering to re-qualify all of the statements in my own mind .
You really do believe what people say on here when you havent visited or know about the place and the negatives stick in your mind more than the positives.
Additionally people are more inclined to post when they're fed up than when they're over the moon. A post of ' Wow I love this isnt it great ' is less likely due to human nature not to want to gloat rather than ' i hate this place because of x,y,z and you should all be aware ' which is more likely to get some attention. I bet there are far more people on here who now own a boat/pool/huge house vs the same percentage of the same population who owned these luxury items in the UK but they dont come onhere and talk about it because that wouldn't be british.(well bananas did and she got whacked for it).
- 'its like this in 'australia' ' - when australia is the size of Europe and Perth is not the same as brisbane or Sydney or Adelaide or Cairns or Towombawochyshire
- everything is expensive/cheap in australia - when some things are and some things aren't
- 'most people go back' vs 'most people stay'.
Ie its all generalisation. People posting well balanced and qualified opinions dont get their threads mauled around (except by trolls).
When we were in uK I was reading this avidly and having never been to Aus before it formed a large part of my perception of this country. Now that I live here it incenses me that people pedal rubbish without quantifying it ie 'schools are crap' vs 'schools in my suburb in perth in wa are crap- but I dont know what anywhere else is like'. Perhaps Im beng dumb in not remembering to re-qualify all of the statements in my own mind .
You really do believe what people say on here when you havent visited or know about the place and the negatives stick in your mind more than the positives.
Additionally people are more inclined to post when they're fed up than when they're over the moon. A post of ' Wow I love this isnt it great ' is less likely due to human nature not to want to gloat rather than ' i hate this place because of x,y,z and you should all be aware ' which is more likely to get some attention. I bet there are far more people on here who now own a boat/pool/huge house vs the same percentage of the same population who owned these luxury items in the UK but they dont come onhere and talk about it because that wouldn't be british.(well bananas did and she got whacked for it).
Sep 2nd 2005, 11:16 pm
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Re: Real life or rose tinted sunnies ?
I believe it would be more benefical to hear both sides, good and bad and especially fro those who go back home. Reason? Because you can learn from their experiences, just in case you go and make the same ones. When they post something negative, send them an email asking for more info in detail to help you understand why they said what they said.
If you move without any family here, it will be tough. Hey, we moved from Victoria with no family or friends on the Gold Coast so we know how it feels. Sure, our family is in the same country, but they may as well be in the UK as it is costly to travel to Melbourne all the time and so we do not see them often.
I believe you should make a plan, just like you would when you plan a holiday. If you have kids, find a school that offers a community, one that will help you meet other families quickly. Remembering that as everyone is so busy, you may like to send a letter to each student in your child's class introducing your family and give your contact details and even organise your own little function to meet parents. In private schools we have class lists but they are created only once a year so if you come part way through the year, you will not be on the list.
Join your local community group, mum's group, playgroup, sporting club, Rotary, Lions, Zonta etc etc.
If you are moving to the Gold Coast, here are the business networking groups:
http://realestategoldcoast.net/goldc...networking.htm
Now this may seem like basic stuff to do, but it is amazing how many people do not do it and then feel like they never belonged, get home sick and then want to go back home.
I have friends from Hungary who we met through the tennis club. The wife cannot speak English which made it difficult for our friendship and I had to speak through her son. I got all the info to get her into a 'English as a second language' class but she never did. She allowed her home-sickness to take over her life and she hates living here. If she tried a little, she would start seeing that it is not such a bad place to live.
Gayle
If you move without any family here, it will be tough. Hey, we moved from Victoria with no family or friends on the Gold Coast so we know how it feels. Sure, our family is in the same country, but they may as well be in the UK as it is costly to travel to Melbourne all the time and so we do not see them often.
I believe you should make a plan, just like you would when you plan a holiday. If you have kids, find a school that offers a community, one that will help you meet other families quickly. Remembering that as everyone is so busy, you may like to send a letter to each student in your child's class introducing your family and give your contact details and even organise your own little function to meet parents. In private schools we have class lists but they are created only once a year so if you come part way through the year, you will not be on the list.
Join your local community group, mum's group, playgroup, sporting club, Rotary, Lions, Zonta etc etc.
If you are moving to the Gold Coast, here are the business networking groups:
http://realestategoldcoast.net/goldc...networking.htm
Now this may seem like basic stuff to do, but it is amazing how many people do not do it and then feel like they never belonged, get home sick and then want to go back home.
I have friends from Hungary who we met through the tennis club. The wife cannot speak English which made it difficult for our friendship and I had to speak through her son. I got all the info to get her into a 'English as a second language' class but she never did. She allowed her home-sickness to take over her life and she hates living here. If she tried a little, she would start seeing that it is not such a bad place to live.
Gayle
Last edited by goldcoastrealestate; Sep 2nd 2005 at 11:21 pm.
