Qantas...hmmmm....
Oct 29th 2011, 8:45 am
#31
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Re: Qantas...hmmmm....
Nope, the twerp has unilaterally grounded the flights. He's trying to blame the unions, but frankly it doesn't wash when all he's seen are short term strikes.
And the reason for those strikes is a hamfisted attempt to offshore the entire company. So obvious that the union noticed. It's all down to Joyce, he's a really bad loser.
And the reason for those strikes is a hamfisted attempt to offshore the entire company. So obvious that the union noticed. It's all down to Joyce, he's a really bad loser.
I have made quite a few domestic Qantas flights in last couple of weeks, maybe I have just been lucky but there has been no trouble at all.
Oct 29th 2011, 8:53 am
#32
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Re: Qantas...hmmmm....
Well I started my reading, 1,000 jobs out of 35,000 to go overseas. Not seen anything about the whole company being offshored so far. I can't really see how that would be possible either ...
I have made quite a few domestic Qantas flights in last couple of weeks, maybe I have just been lucky but there has been no trouble at all.
I have made quite a few domestic Qantas flights in last couple of weeks, maybe I have just been lucky but there has been no trouble at all.
Oct 29th 2011, 9:06 am
#33
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Re: Qantas...hmmmm....
Take a look at what he was up to Asia. Even I realised what he was doing, it was pretty obvious - you build up the overseas parts till they are more than 50% of the company, then you unilaterally outsource the remaining bits and sack anyone who says no. If you make it so obvious and get called on it, that's bad CEOship. If you then damage the company when it doesn't work - sorry, you're a liability.
Oct 29th 2011, 9:11 am
#34
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Re: Qantas...hmmmm....
Is it 50% of operations? I saw 1,000 in 35,000 jobs (source BBC). Of course 1,000 jobs sounds like a lot but I work for a large company (albeit not as big as Qantas) and turnover is about 15%, if Qantas is the same they would shed this many jobs naturally in but a few months.
Oct 29th 2011, 9:11 am
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Re: Qantas...hmmmm....
I want my money back!!! grr
Oct 29th 2011, 10:07 am
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Re: Qantas...hmmmm....
I wouldn't take sides in this one - Australian industrial history is an unpleasant mix of rampant union strongarming and management taking whatever they can from their workforces. It's in the genes: it's "Australian".
Oct 29th 2011, 10:10 am
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Re: Qantas...hmmmm....
Oct 29th 2011, 10:31 am
#41
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Re: Qantas...hmmmm....
... and Britain has never ever been held to ransom by the unions. I would pretty much bet a weeks wages that most of the union leaders here are of english/scottish/irish/welsh descent.
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Oct 29th 2011, 11:05 am
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Re: Qantas...hmmmm....
Unfortunately the type of militant unionism we are seeing is only going to hurt the company. Their demands for (I think) 5% pay rises a year for 3 years just isn't sustainable. I can see it forcing Qantas to take more services offshore which will just hurt more workers but the unions are too blind to see it.
Oct 29th 2011, 11:14 am
#43
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Re: Qantas...hmmmm....
I agree how dare these union members withdraw their labour! This really annoy me. These Licensed Aircraft Engineers and experienced Commercial Pilots must be extremely dim to allow themselves to be exploited by an obvious Marxist agenda led union. And for what? Keeping positions in Australia and giving them job security. Tsk what next!!?
The CEO was obviously acting in the best interests of the company. The fact that this has never ever been done before by any limited airline in the world should have no bearing on the judgement or indeed sanity of the CEO (god bless his wee oirish socks).
Yours
Alan Joyce
The CEO was obviously acting in the best interests of the company. The fact that this has never ever been done before by any limited airline in the world should have no bearing on the judgement or indeed sanity of the CEO (god bless his wee oirish socks).
Yours
Alan Joyce
Oct 29th 2011, 11:22 am
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Re: Qantas...hmmmm....
I agree how dare these union members withdraw their labour! This really annoy me. These Licensed Aircraft Engineers and experienced Commercial Pilots must be extremely dim to allow themselves to be exploited by an obvious Marxist agenda led union. And for what? Keeping positions in Australia and giving them job security. Tsk what next!!?
The CEO was obviously acting in the best interests of the company. The fact that this has never ever been done before by any limited airline in the world should have no bearing on the judgement or indeed sanity of the CEO (god bless his wee oirish socks).
Yours
Alan Joyce
The CEO was obviously acting in the best interests of the company. The fact that this has never ever been done before by any limited airline in the world should have no bearing on the judgement or indeed sanity of the CEO (god bless his wee oirish socks).
Yours
Alan Joyce
The CEO (if he did take a pay rise at this sensitive time
) needs to be replaced.