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British Expats (https://britishexpats.com/forum/)
-   Australia (https://britishexpats.com/forum/australia-54/)
-   -   Pronunciation (https://britishexpats.com/forum/australia-54/pronunciation-609407/)

PoppetUK May 16th 2009 1:11 am
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by kar-kier (Post 7576392)
My boys are called Matty and Shay - not MaRty and She!!!!!

Please tell me I'm not the only one that nobody can understand. Every time i spell out the letter 'A' they seem to think it's an 'E' - I've now taken to saying 'A' with an Austalian accent . . . a dodgey one at that!! :blink:

Kareena
Wish I had thought harder about naming my first child when we had the idea of moving to Australia at the back of our minds. I only like it said with an English accent. She also has tt in her name. Oh well I'd better get over it and fast.

shears May 16th 2009 1:46 am
Re: Pronunciation
 
we're from Ireland, imagine the trouble our poor children have ... Aoife (girl) and Daire (boy). Go on, 'ave a go!! :)

PoppetUK May 16th 2009 2:16 am
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by shears (Post 7577253)
we're from Ireland, imagine the trouble our poor children have ... Aoife (girl) and Daire (boy). Go on, 'ave a go!! :)
:) do the Aussies get close to getting it right?

northernbird May 16th 2009 2:18 am
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by PoppetUK (Post 7577292)
:) do the Aussies get close to getting it right?
I am English and I have no clue, does that make me some kind of inferior being too :(

shears May 16th 2009 2:26 am
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 7577296)
I am English and I have no clue, does that make me some kind of inferior being too :(
Not at all my dear! :)

People are fine with the names if we just say them, but if they were to see it written down it's a different story.

PoppetUK May 16th 2009 2:29 am
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 7577296)
I am English and I have no clue, does that make me some kind of inferior being too :(
I wasn't implying that Aussies were inferior because I don't know how to pronounce Aoife and Daire either so was thinking I was going to be pretty far off :o

shears May 16th 2009 2:37 am
Re: Pronunciation
 
I'm not Aussie or anyone else bashing - it's just they're unusual names anywhere except Ireland!! Maybe they'd have different names if we knew we were going to come to Australia :)

Aoife pronouned Eefah. Daire pronounced Dara.

Mr Grumpy May 16th 2009 2:47 am
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by shears (Post 7577324)
I'm not Aussie or anyone else bashing - it's just they're unusual names anywhere except Ireland!! Maybe they'd have different names if we knew we were going to come to Australia :)

Aoife pronouned Eefah. Daire pronounced Dara.
Thats my sisters name exactly how its spelt.

Broad Shoulders May 16th 2009 10:31 am
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by JR230898 (Post 7577015)
There in lies an indication of the different perspectives we all have of just the pronunciation of English...phonetically...Dymocks...to me...should be pronounced 'Diemox'..it is difficult for me to understand how the 'mocks' part would be elongated to sound like 'moocks'.

Now...when you are using "euc"...how would you pronounce eucalyptus? To me, and to the vast majority of people in Australia, we try to produce a sound like "you calip tus"...interested to hear your take on this.
they are different rules about that pronunciation though. Your example of Eucalyptus is irrelevant in my point because there different rules behind pronunciation when certain makeups of letters appear at the start or in the middle of a word. It's quite simple McDonalds should not be MickDonalds, the use of Dymocks was simply to add another example of Aussies rarely pronouncing correctly this letter combination

Broad Shoulders May 16th 2009 10:33 am
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 7577040)
No Aussie? Come on, various people in various countries would have issues but it's hardly a 'country' problem. A friend of mine used to work in the USA. His name is Ian but most of the people in worked with insisted on pronouncing it Eye an. Different areas of the UK pronounce words differently, as do areas of Australia.
listen out, I guarantee from now you will rarely hear that letter combination pronounced correctly. I hear on radio (ABC), tv journalists (ABC) all supposedly versions of the media that purport to uphold good levels of English and pronunciation

Broad Shoulders May 16th 2009 10:33 am
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by shears (Post 7577253)
we're from Ireland, imagine the trouble our poor children have ... Aoife (girl) and Daire (boy). Go on, 'ave a go!! :)
I know one of them is eefer, not sure about the other one

Dreamy May 16th 2009 12:14 pm
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 7577989)
listen out, I guarantee from now you will rarely hear that letter combination pronounced correctly. I hear on radio (ABC), tv journalists (ABC) all supposedly versions of the media that purport to uphold good levels of English and pronunciation
Pronounced correctly by Received Pronunciation standards, or pronounced correctly by Australian English standards?

I'm aware when they're trying to give me the wrong burger that it's my fault, that I didn't clearly enunciate to the Australian ear - my error not theirs. I don't really think one can criticise a nation because it pronounces words in a different way.

moneypenny20 May 16th 2009 1:23 pm
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by Broad Shoulders (Post 7577989)
listen out, I guarantee from now you will rarely hear that letter combination pronounced correctly. I hear on radio (ABC), tv journalists (ABC) all supposedly versions of the media that purport to uphold good levels of English and pronunciation
I would assume the Australian Broadcasting Corporation are purporting to uphold good levels of Australian English as opposed to British English. You live in Australia, they pronounce words differently to Her Majesty The Queen. It's no big deal. Strangely enough a few hundred years ago Chaucer was the advocate of 'good English and pronunciation'. Perhaps we should revert to speaking and writing as he did. It's irrelevant and actually damned patronising to consider that the way you speak and pronounce words is correct and that Australia as a nation is incorrect.

kateandderek2 May 16th 2009 4:26 pm
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by Petals (Post 7576439)
Try Lager and lime, my oh geordie accent still has trouble with the bar staff with that one.


me too.

i have to ask for a backet for fishing and biked beans on my brekky

Broad Shoulders May 16th 2009 5:42 pm
Re: Pronunciation
 
Originally Posted by moneypenny20 (Post 7578200)
I would assume the Australian Broadcasting Corporation are purporting to uphold good levels of Australian English as opposed to British English. You live in Australia, they pronounce words differently to Her Majesty The Queen. It's no big deal. Strangely enough a few hundred years ago Chaucer was the advocate of 'good English and pronunciation'. Perhaps we should revert to speaking and writing as he did. It's irrelevant and actually damned patronising to consider that the way you speak and pronounce words is correct and that Australia as a nation is incorrect.
as I said I wouldn't have a problem with this if Aussies weren't constantly mocking the Kiwis for their pronunciation of vowels, when they cannot do it properly themselves, which is also patronising


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