Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Yes, here in Perth many jobs are not 9 to 5 but 7am to 3 pm - and there are a lot more people out and about at 6am or earlier than you would see in the UK. Number of reasons:
- no daylight saving time - Ending work at 3pm means still time for outdoor activities after work before sunset - Because we are 3 hours time difference to East coast, starting work at 7 means 10am in Sydney - which is usually the head office. If the day starts at 9am instead, that is 2 less hours of overlap with East coast offices. Took some getting used to - ie. when getting quotes from tradies, they all wanted/ expected to come round at 730 am. |
Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Yes Perth certainly takes some getting used to for anyone used to a night life type city. While there has been a growth in small bars, somewhat over hyped, I'd say the Casino a bit out of the city would be the main night time focus. The centre not very flash , especially later at night , with the main area for entertainment Northbridge quite limited to my eyes in offerings, with a fair amount of aggression around (not too different from many UK centres late at night)
The hassle of going out in the sense of distance to drive or ubber just makes the whole exercise questionable in worthiness for m,any, outside of special occasions. Like I mentioned in a previous post, a very home inclined population. Prone to early nights and early rises. |
Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by Scoosh
(Post 12986911)
I lived in Ireland for a while as a child, we stayed in Drogheda and would go to Dublin all the time. This was 20 years ago now. We went back a few years ago and its changed so much in that time. Unless you are making silly money I dont see the draw now. Still love the city and the people!
Another couple thoughts about employment - what field are you in specifically? This can make all the difference. If you are a woman and into anything STEM related then I'd rate your chances very highly - you have a very good chance - I know women are being pressured into these types of jobs down here. Even for me a thoroughly medicore candidate I have had to push away quite a few job offers - not many educated people want to live and work in Adelaide. There's more competition in places like Sydney and Melbourne. Canberra and Brisbane are almost as undesirable as Adelaide so there's also a fair bit less competition. As others have said about the workplaces, I agree with them. I have encountered a fair few mentally ill people about in the workplace which I never really experienced that much in the UK (that has other problems of course). Part of it I think is that there's a macho attitude towards work where you ought to be a "grafter" and just keep busy even if for no reason. The work place can be a bit of a time warp in some regards with plenty of US style corporate cringe thrown in. |
Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by rammygirl
(Post 12985616)
For corporate jobs Sydney and Melbourne are going to be your best bet.
Adelaide is lovely and with the fringe on at the moment probably one of the most vibrant cities in the world (not a sentence you will hear often) people who say it is a backwater haven’t been for a while. For corporate jobs especially without Australian experience in Adelaide you will struggle. A neighbour of ours who moved from Sydney took over a year to get a gig and then only because my OH introduced him! Once he got that first project he was away but........ The weather here is better than Melbs, dryer. Of course that could all change as soon as the gov stop printing money... |
Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by rabble_rouser
(Post 12996801)
I also lived in Drogheda about 25 years ago (as a child). The biggest store there at the time was Dunnes where you get a Cola for 25 pence. Its difficult to imagine that its changed.
Another couple thoughts about employment - what field are you in specifically? As for work, I am a male, I have a science background but have always found myself working around tech. Worked for several government bodies and a few private ones as a business analyst or project manager. |
Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by rabble_rouser
(Post 12996547)
You are looking in the wrong country for culture and affordability.
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Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by okonumiyaki
(Post 12996742)
Yes, here in Perth many jobs are not 9 to 5 but 7am to 3 pm - and there are a lot more people out and about at 6am or earlier than you would see in the UK. Number of reasons:
- no daylight saving time - Ending work at 3pm means still time for outdoor activities after work before sunset - Because we are 3 hours time difference to East coast, starting work at 7 means 10am in Sydney - which is usually the head office. If the day starts at 9am instead, that is 2 less hours of overlap with East coast offices. Took some getting used to - ie. when getting quotes from tradies, they all wanted/ expected to come round at 730 am. |
Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by Beoz
(Post 12996695)
Depends where you are. I was in the city (Sydney) briefly last night (Sunday) on the way home from the Northern Beaches for a quick beer and it wasn't exactly thriving. It was a Sunday though and it was 9pm. My mate was saying how much better it is to go out away from the city these days and I think he is right. Bit like London, the city thrives for work drinks then everyone goes out where they live.
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Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by Scoosh
(Post 12996815)
Sorry when I was talking about the place that had changed so much I was referring to Dublin! I can't imagine that Drogheda has changed too much, however it was within commuting distance to Dublin so maybe its prospering too. We lived out in the east of the city. I remember Dunnes was a big deal! Did you ever see the preserved head of the local saint, Oliver Plunkett? Grim stuff lol.
As for work, I am a male, I have a science background but have always found myself working around tech. Worked for several government bodies and a few private ones as a business analyst or project manager. |
Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by rabble_rouser
(Post 12996739)
The only discovery ive made here is that longer I stay the less and less I come to realize there is here at all. Nevertheless it has its fans, and they enjoy it for what it is. Just be aware it may not be what it appears at casual glance.
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Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by Moses2013
(Post 12996834)
Even in Drogheda house prices have increased and especially along the coast places like Skerries are now seeing more and more development. Not during Covid but every now and then we drive to Dublin for the day and have walked all along the coast from Dalkey to Blackrock and around Howth. Some lovely areas but for us in the West just crazy and even if we would sell both houses here near Galway and in Spain, we'd only have the deposit for something we'd consider small/basic there.
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Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by Scoosh
(Post 12996836)
Thanks, I do take it on board. How long have you been in Oz now? Are you considering leaving?
Some great beaches here and it makes for a lovely holiday but my advice is have to a plan to get out after a few years if its not for you (in contrast my brother lives on the Sunshine Coast has a boat and loves all that). With Brexit my options are limited in Europe but I have a residency in Finland being processed so after a year of saving I'll be off. Honestly I'd love to move to Eastern Europe but that's a longer term goal. Its been a good life experience as I've picked up some good lessons and also figured out what it is that I like, and what I want to do. If you can get security clearance - that's really key to a lot of good jobs in Canberra BTW. You'll need a company to put you through that process however. Software Development work is high in demand so anything related to that would be a good bet. |
Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by Moses2013
(Post 12986883)
Not in OZ myself now, but one thing is always the same in every major city across the world. Unfortunately it often comes down to property prices and unless you bought at the right time, inherit loads of money, the challenges remain. Timing is an important factor moving from a low cost area to high cost area and while money isn't everything, it's just natural that this is one important factor. It's no different in Barcelona and many struggle with high rents and due to the high rents can't save for a deposit. I love Begur and Tossa etc. but by not moving to Barcelona and staying where we are in Ireland, I actually get to enjoy it more than people I know in Barcelona. If I had to move to Dublin today, I would also have to sell the house here and the 2nd home in Spain, just to be able to afford the deposit for something we'd consider decent there. And even if we didn't buy and used the savings to rent, the savings would be gone very quickly. 20 years ago it was a very different story and I remember those who left to Australia with nothing and came back as wealthy people.
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Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by rabble_rouser
(Post 12996852)
Yes, and can't wait to be honest - seven years in and it feels like five long boring summers too many.
Honestly I'd love to move to Eastern Europe but that's a longer term goal. Also what is the draw to Eastern Europe? |
Re: Professional copuple moving in Nov/Dec - Opinions on cities
Originally Posted by Scoosh
(Post 12996833)
So wheras we all tend to head en masse to the city centre at the weekends here, is that not the case in Sydney? Do people tend to socialise more within their part of the city or suburb?
Sydney is large enough to be somewhat similar in that it has many precincts for going out. The city (or CBD (Central Business District) as they call it) in Sydney tends to be busy after work. Within the CBD there are other precincts such as Darling Harbour and the Rocks which tended to be the go too areas for tourists or newer migrants on a Saturday night. Locals tended to use their local precincts on Saturday nights as it is convenient and just as good, if not better. That said, if you were from an area without much of a night-life precinct you may tend to use the Rocks or Darling Harbour. Obviously COVID and the tourist/newer migrant factor has had a big effect on those areas they once frequented. There have always been the precincts such as Coogee, Surry Hills, Balmain and Manly which were always excellent for a night out but in recent times places like Newtown, Double Bay, and Bondi, have evolved as excellent night spots with places like Kings Cross quietening right down. It seems to always be evolving. A smaller city like Newcastle will have their central nightspot location but the bigger ones like a London or Sydney will have many. This is good. Lots of variety. For example the neighbouring suburb to Newtown is Marrickville and it has a tonne of breweries. You can spend the afternoon brewery crawling then end up in a restaurant or pub in Newtown. If you are on the dance floor that that Marlborough Hotel at midnight you know you've had a good night and for me, with 2 kids, the next day will be a punish. Pricing is fine too. If you are working and living in a city, as long as you didn't let yourself get dudded in your salary negotiations for for outset the cost of living is no issue. 5 million people can't all be living on the bread line. Watch out for the negative Nellie's on here. There's plenty of them where it didn't work out and they turn to BE to complain. |
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