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Timber Floor Au Sep 6th 2004 4:09 am

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Gday,

Been a while since i posted on here. kinda had a hard few weeks.

We were granted perm visas few weeks back.

Mum passed away last week.

Dad has no other relatives in UK.

Can we take him with us, if so how, any links please.


Cheers Steve

Hiyas to all by the way


SunshineGirl Sep 6th 2004 4:13 am

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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au


Gday,

Been a while since i posted on here. kinda had a hard few weeks.

We were granted perm visas few weeks back.

Mum passed away last week.

Dad has no other relatives in UK.

Can we take him with us, if so how, any links please.


Cheers Steve

Hiyas to all by the way


Really sorry to hear that. All the very best with your move. Hopefully you can bring your Dad over on the 'balance of family' test.

Hope all goes well.

DIMO8 Sep 6th 2004 4:22 am

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Gday to you too.
I am sure you will have no problems with your dad going with you but how long it will take i don't know. JAJ is online why dont you try p/m him.
good luck

moneypenny20 Sep 6th 2004 4:46 am

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Bl**dy hell, why can't people have good news followed by good news. Sorry Timber. Really sorry about your mum. Hopefully you can get your dad out with you.

madsad Sep 6th 2004 4:54 am

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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au


Gday,

Been a while since i posted on here. kinda had a hard few weeks.

We were granted perm visas few weeks back.

Mum passed away last week.

Dad has no other relatives in UK.

Can we take him with us, if so how, any links please.


Cheers Steve

Hiyas to all by the way


Sorry to hear about your mum,
Hope your dad can go with you all,
Good luck
Donna x

wmoore Sep 6th 2004 6:21 am

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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au

Gday,

Been a while since i posted on here. kinda had a hard few weeks.

We were granted perm visas few weeks back.

Mum passed away last week.

Dad has no other relatives in UK.

Can we take him with us, if so how, any links please.


Cheers Steve

Hiyas to all by the way

Sorry to hear that.
You should have a look at this. DIMIA only 'budget' for 1000 parent visas per year and I've read that it can take years to get a visa this way.
I hope you can work something out.

Grayling Sep 6th 2004 6:27 am

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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au


Gday,

Been a while since i posted on here. kinda had a hard few weeks.

We were granted perm visas few weeks back.

Mum passed away last week.

Dad has no other relatives in UK.

Can we take him with us, if so how, any links please.


Cheers Steve

Hiyas to all by the way


Steve
Sorry about your mum.

Your father could probably go on a parent contributory visa.
He would need to pass the balance of family test.
You could sponsor him when you are resident in Australia but I am not sure if you have to be there two years first. You would certainly need two year's tax returns to act as assurer.
The fees are quite high but the visa only takes a few months to get once he is eligible.

Hope this helps

G

ACE Sep 6th 2004 9:01 am

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I am really sorry, that's terrible news Steve, I hope you can take your dad over with you

Hang in there mate

ACE

Cestrian Sep 6th 2004 1:27 pm

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Would he be eligible for a Last Remaining Relative visa?

Ceri Sep 6th 2004 2:18 pm

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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au


Gday,

Been a while since i posted on here. kinda had a hard few weeks.

We were granted perm visas few weeks back.

Mum passed away last week.

Dad has no other relatives in UK.

Can we take him with us, if so how, any links please.


Cheers Steve

Hiyas to all by the way


Sorry to hear about your mum ( words are a bit meaningless aren't they..don't know how I would cope losing mine, my gran was bad enough because I was really close to her.. anyway sorry, it must be hard on both you and your dad)

Anyway, you being PR, and if your dad is above retirement age I think ( or I've always been led to believe this) you can sponsor him. Ask JAJ for the rules on this.

Good luck

mlbonner Sep 6th 2004 2:46 pm

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Sorry to hear about your news Steve. Like the others have said, try and get some info about the parent cont. visa, sounds like your best bet. You can get long stay tourist visas, so that may also be something to consider in the interim?

debsy Sep 6th 2004 6:05 pm

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Steve & Debs
Really sorry to hear your bad news. Dont know what to say really, except I hope that everything works out for you and that you are able to take your dad with you.

Kind regards
Debs

Timber Floor Au Sep 6th 2004 6:54 pm

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Thanks guys :)

Bit of a shitter bringing this subject up, but had to ask.

I did email JAJ and he replied, doesnt look to hopeful.

Seems , and i dont mean to be trivial :

Its easier to get 4 newfoundland dogs into australia, bit of frontline and a bloodtest, cpl certificates and BANG ur in.

An elderley Dad with not one single relative in uk, no chance.

Dont know if this helps but he has 2 brothers ( step ) that have lived in Australia since late 60's, went in on the £10 pom.

Would that constitute as being grounds for repatriation in Australia, and a way for him to move with us.

I just get this awful feeling, soon as I jump on the plane, he will grieve and possibly deteriorate.

Steve

Grayling Sep 6th 2004 6:59 pm

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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
Thanks guys :)

Bit of a shitter bringing this subject up, but had to ask.

I did email JAJ and he replied, doesnt look to hopeful.

Seems , and i dont mean to be trivial :

Its easier to get 4 newfoundland dogs into australia, bit of frontline and a bloodtest, cpl certificates and BANG ur in.

An elderley Dad with not one single relative in uk, no chance.

Dont know if this helps but he has 2 brothers ( step ) that have lived in Australia since late 60's, went in on the £10 pom.

Would that constitute as being grounds for repatriation in Australia, and a way for him to move with us.

I just get this awful feeling, soon as I jump on the plane, he will grieve and possibly deteriorate.

Steve

Steve
If you are his only child then I stillthink that the parent contributory visa would be possible in a couple of years time.
Is there a problem with that. Surely Jeremy would have suggested that.

Good luck

G

lucyb Sep 6th 2004 7:11 pm

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Hi Steve,

I dont know the answers to your questions but I wanted to say I am very sorry to hear that you have lost your Mum.

Take care,
Lucy
xx

Ceri Sep 6th 2004 7:14 pm

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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
Thanks guys :)

Bit of a shitter bringing this subject up, but had to ask.

I did email JAJ and he replied, doesnt look to hopeful.

Seems , and i dont mean to be trivial :

Its easier to get 4 newfoundland dogs into australia, bit of frontline and a bloodtest, cpl certificates and BANG ur in.

An elderley Dad with not one single relative in uk, no chance.

Dont know if this helps but he has 2 brothers ( step ) that have lived in Australia since late 60's, went in on the £10 pom.

Would that constitute as being grounds for repatriation in Australia, and a way for him to move with us.

I just get this awful feeling, soon as I jump on the plane, he will grieve and possibly deteriorate.

Steve

.....
it still may be worth trying to apply under one of the parent visas.. you never know, Who do they decide to give them to? Is one parent more worthy than another? I don't understand who they decide to give these places to. Perhaps the only other thing you can do is get him out here on a tourist visa, obviously he will have to go back to the Uk in time.

Don't know what the answer is .. life is sh*te sometimes. Perhaps you should smuggle him in as a Newfoundlander :)

Have you an agent in the UK who you can ask for more advice?
Au high commission maybe another option.

chin up .. perhaps you will find a way/answer to your problem.
good luck to you and your Dad:)

Grayling Sep 6th 2004 7:23 pm

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[QUOTE=Ceri].....
it still may be worth trying to apply under one of the parent visas.. you never know, Who do they decide to give them to? Is one parent more worthy than another? I don't understand who they decide to give these places to. Perhaps the only other thing you can do is get him out here on a tourist visa, obviously he will have to go back to the Uk in time.

QUOTE]

The Parent contributory visa is easy to get if you meet the criteria.Only takes 6 months or so.

G

Ceri Sep 6th 2004 7:30 pm

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[QUOTE=Grayling]

Originally Posted by Ceri
.....
it still may be worth trying to apply under one of the parent visas.. you never know, Who do they decide to give them to? Is one parent more worthy than another? I don't understand who they decide to give these places to. Perhaps the only other thing you can do is get him out here on a tourist visa, obviously he will have to go back to the Uk in time.

QUOTE]

The Parent contributory visa is easy to get if you meet the criteria.Only takes 6 months or so.

G

what is the criteria for this ? Do you have to have been PR for a certain length of time or something to sponsor a parent? I can't read the application forms on the gov site (my settings are blocking them)

Stewie Sep 6th 2004 7:42 pm

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Originally Posted by Ceri
what is the criteria for this ? Do you have to have been PR for a certain length of time or something? I can't read the application forms on the gov site (my settings are blocking them)

Ceri
Grayling may be off line so I'll try to outline the contributory parent visa.

As a parent, you have to be sponsored by your child. the balance of family test must be passed. In essence if you have more than one child the majority must be resident in Australia.

Your sponsoring child must be a permanent resident or citizen in Australia and be settled. Usually described as legally resident for a least 2 years.

There is a first visa charge and a substantial 2nd visa charge.

You must have an assurer who must have a minimum income evidenced by a least the last two tax returns.

The bond currently is $10000 for the primary applicant and must be held for 10years.

The visa charges are on the DIMIA website but currenty is $26475 for the 2nd charge.

Hope this helps

Ceri Sep 6th 2004 7:51 pm

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Originally Posted by Stewie
Ceri
Grayling may be off line so I'll try to outline the contributory parent visa.

As a parent, you have to be sponsored by your child. the balance of family test must be passed. In essence if you have more than one child the majority must be resident in Australia.

Your sponsoring child must be a permanent resident or citizen in Australia and be settled. Usually described as legally resident for a least 2 years.

There is a first visa charge and a substantial 2nd visa charge.

You must have an assurer who must have a minimum income evidenced by a least the last two tax returns.

The bond currently is $10000 for the primary applicant and must be held for 10years.

The visa charges are on the DIMIA website but currenty is $26475 for the 2nd charge.

Hope this helps

so that looks as if it counts steve/timber floor out then.. the settled/resident bit for two years.
Amazing they let any tom and dick harry in sometimes and not an elderly lone parent, who's son wants him to be with him..
cheers

Stewie Sep 6th 2004 8:02 pm

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Originally Posted by Ceri
so that looks as if it counts steve/timber floor out then.. the settled/resident bit for two years.
Amazing they let any tom and dick harry in sometimes and not an elderly lone parent, who's son wants him to be with him..
cheers

Yes. The cont. parent visa is granted pretty quickly but the child does have to be settled and resident for at least 2 years before the parent can apply. :(

CK2B Sep 6th 2004 8:03 pm

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Hi Steve,
Really sorry to hear about your loss, hope you, Debs, your dad and all your family are coping. I seem to remember you used an agent for your 2nd TRA? Have you tried asking for their assistance.

When are you due to travel, I was sure it was early September as you were undecided about sending the kids back to UK school? Have you had to defer your plans?

I really hope everything works out for all of you, has your dad expressed an interest in moving with you?

Keep us posted on your progress and loads of best wishes,
CK

Timber Floor Au Sep 6th 2004 9:12 pm

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Its all really rather complicated lol at the moment .

Kids are back to school Uk today.

Dad is staying with us at the moment, funeral is next Tuesday.

Dogs leave our house 16th Sept, leaving uk 20th and 21st sept, heading for Syd.

We are heading for Brissy, south side. But dearly want to be there so kids can start new school yr in January.

I have friends in Sydney who at a push can plonk my dogs on their farm until we arrive, removes burden of meeting dogs from quarenteen.

Regards TRA.

We did the whole thing ourselves. I personally think most agents, even those that post on here are wan****

I say that with a degree of experience and knowledge.

Regards My dad, id be interested to know JUST how long he could stay out on a Tourists visa, do you get the 1 year thingymebob??

Friend of mine iin Kent is moving back to Aussie on last remaining relative visa, not sure what that entails.

Retirement visa is out of the question, and I would have thought that on humanitarian grounds there was some leeway, but appreciate and completely abide by the " Aussie Rules System " its been FAIR !!!!!! to us and many thousands more.

Im not looking for a cheat or an angle just someway my good old dad can be with us.

Picture it !

66 years old. Deep thinker, just lost his rock, his love his wife of 42 years yes 42 YEARS!!!!

Has no family left in Uk cept us bunch !!

Had planned on visiting with my beloved mum 2 times a year to Australia, even got the fukn smokers patches for when they fly...

Shit sorry... :(

Dotes on his 3 grandkids, had plans on meeting his step brothers in Sydney with me , that he hasnt seen in 35 years !!!

And now by some beaurocratic b/s and crap timing by my mum, looks as if we perhaps wont go !!!!!

Its not like previous threads about ur 15 year old Pet Dog Charlie, be cruel to take him, lets rehome him.

hes my Dad ... so seriously thinking of Phoning Adelaide and saying thanks but no Thanks, we will move when hes popped his clogs !

sheeeeeeeeeeshhhh

:(

sjn2003 Sep 6th 2004 9:20 pm

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Really sorry to hear about your mum Timber. Don't know much more about the visa than what has already been said.

Our thoughts are with you and yours :(

Siren & Brian Sep 6th 2004 9:23 pm

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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
Thanks guys :)

Bit of a shitter bringing this subject up, but had to ask.

I did email JAJ and he replied, doesnt look to hopeful.

Seems , and i dont mean to be trivial :

Its easier to get 4 newfoundland dogs into australia, bit of frontline and a bloodtest, cpl certificates and BANG ur in.

An elderley Dad with not one single relative in uk, no chance.

Dont know if this helps but he has 2 brothers ( step ) that have lived in Australia since late 60's, went in on the £10 pom.

Would that constitute as being grounds for repatriation in Australia, and a way for him to move with us.

I just get this awful feeling, soon as I jump on the plane, he will grieve and possibly deteriorate.

Steve

I have no idea but is it possible that the Step brothers be the assurers?????

wmoore Sep 7th 2004 12:04 am

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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au
Regards My dad, id be interested to know JUST how long he could stay out on a Tourists visa, do you get the 1 year thingymebob??

The tourist visa lasts for 1 year but you can only stay in any single 'visit' for 3 months. Your dad could fly to NZ (say) and get the very next plane back to Oz but I guess immigration would start asking questions after a couple of such trips.

I hope you can get a solution. This may be the time to bite your lip and speak to an agent.

podgypossum Sep 7th 2004 12:09 am

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Sadly i cant give you any answers..but just wanted to offer my sympathies.

si.young Sep 7th 2004 12:42 am

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Sorry to here about you Mum mate. Try taking a look at the remaining relative visa, I think it comes under the family visa catagory or the Aged Dependent Relative Category.

http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/fam...g_relative.htm

Or

http://www.immi.gov.au/migration/fam..._dependent.htm

Good luck in Oz

teach Sep 7th 2004 10:21 am

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Hey Timber,
Sorry to hear about your mum mate. Hopefully you will be able to sort things out so that your dad can go to Oz with you and yours.
All the best.
Sarah

Phoenixuk2oz Sep 7th 2004 10:25 am

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Originally Posted by Timber Floor Au


Gday,

Been a while since i posted on here. kinda had a hard few weeks.

We were granted perm visas few weeks back.

Mum passed away last week.

Dad has no other relatives in UK.

Can we take him with us, if so how, any links please.


Cheers Steve

Hiyas to all by the way


Really, really sorry to hear about your mum Steve. Our thoughts are with you,your dad and your family at this terrible time :(

Chin up and hoping things work out for U ;)

Amazulu Sep 7th 2004 10:29 am

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Sorry for your loss mate.
I lost my Mom not long ago, so know what you're going through. Hope you can sort thing out for your Dad.


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