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Old Jun 21st 2005 | 3:33 am
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Originally Posted by michellemac
Thanks for that because I didn't *think* it was (that's why I was surprised iyswim?) - I certianly never noticed it amongst my friends and family on my numerous trips back but was unsure of whether I had my rose-tinteds on.

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I can only comment on where I live/have lived and the people I know in both areas, I can state without a speck of doubt that in Geraldton WA I have noticed a huge increase of people drink driving than I ever saw in Crawley West Sussex. I have also notied a much more chilled out attitude towards those who are blatently drink driving.

No idea on the stats for either area.

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Old Jun 21st 2005 | 3:37 am
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Originally Posted by Soi Oz
It isn't common! People on here seem to be implying that it is 'more' common than in the UK, but I haven't seen any stats to back those claims up. Maybe the detection rate is higher in Oz.

I'm with you on right lane hogs though, that drives me nuts too. Mind you, NOTHING I see in Perth compares to my daily commute to work here in Bangkok. Perth drivers are saints compared to these guys.
Yes I'm pretty much implying that, from personal experience, drink driving I have witnessed to be more common over here than in the UK... I didn't see that back in the UK, sorry... Within a short period of time I have seen three episodes of drink driving, different people each time... Maybe the detection rate is higher in Au, but it certainly didn't seem to intimidate the aforementioned..

If you haven't seen statistics, how can you say it isn't common? I'm not looking for an argument, I'm just wondering too, and asking others on here what their perceptions are.... This certainly isn't a UK v Oz scenario, I left the UK because I preferred the Australian way and approach to life, that didn't include that drink driving episodes that i have seen so far and it's a worry!

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Old Jun 21st 2005 | 3:46 am
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Originally Posted by JayDeee
It's a bit more of a long drive (about 4.5 hrs) but if you ever wanna get away for a weekend or whatever just drop me a PM, you are more than welcome, we can sit in the lounge with the heater or the pub of course slagging our blokes off and obviously there is always a spare bed here.

Got my 1st Tupperware party 2moro AGHHHH I'm gonna be a country housewife before I know it at this rate.

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Kala, I am definitely up for a weekend at some point, the lure of a heater, slagging of the hubby and his freakin sinuses that are driving me mad (there, I've said it) and of course, ever reliable Jack D, always puts a spring in my step...

Good luck with the Tupperware, has it become fashionable whilst I've been away??

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Originally Posted by honeybob
For all the wrong reasons today, I skipped down my drive, huge grin on my 'vengence is mine' face, not caring about the builders opposite whom probably think i'm a whack job...

driving down joondalup drive, when this car comes speeding up my backside... it's a 70 kph limit... he could easily have overtaken, but no, that would be too easy, what is it with drivers over here?

who ever it was on here who said something like, 'the faster you go, the slower i drive', or something to that effect, cheers, because i stuck to it! he pulled up beside my car and started swearing and giving me the finger.... normally i wouldn't give a shit, but my daughter was crying by this time... still stuck to 70 and he sped past, he must have been doing 100 kph at least.... by this time i felt a bit peed off and a bit shaky...

and then i was so happy, a police car just pulled out of 'collier pass', lights flashing, foot down, straight after the moron... i was whooping for joy, like a complete moron myself, if i'd had a cigar i would have took up smoking...

i never thought that out of all the problems you face as a migrant, driving would become my main gripe, forget the weather, spiders, lack of 'decent' gravy granules at coles (husband's new complaint), my advice is to prepare for the driving out here... I've driven in a few places, london, france, italy, germany, but nothing compares to aussie driving, where does the kindness and consideration go? especially when people can see you have children in the car!

oh, and i've witnessed a few episodes of 'drink driving' here, is this common?

bob
Our daughter and partner went to Oz 3 weeks ago, they were driving from Adelaide to Sydney and we had a daily report by phone as to the accidents they saw! Seems the police or highway control(!) stick a marker at every accident scene. They have also been pulled over twice (not just them) as part of a police check point fro random breath testing.
Must confess in my dotage that I avoid gestures and hittingthe brakes to scare s--t outta the moron behind and long ago adopted the same the faster you go - the slower i go...policy. Suppose its something to be wary of when we go over later this year!
 
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Originally Posted by JayDeee
I can only comment on where I live/have lived and the people I know in both areas, I can state without a speck of doubt that in Geraldton WA I have noticed a huge increase of people drink driving than I ever saw in Crawley West Sussex. I have also notied a much more chilled out attitude towards those who are blatently drink driving.

No idea on the stats for either area.

Kala
The trouble is the court system is such a pussy when it comes to repeat offenders. Yes, they suspend the licences but there are recorded cases of offenders REPEATEDLY driving while disqualifiied and REPEATEDLY coming before the courts for that offence and receiving only fines or further suspension, but what does that matter when they are driving anyhow even with out a licence. It is only apiece of plastic and paper anyway. Throw the SOB's in jail for repeatedly endangering people.
 
Old Jun 21st 2005 | 9:28 am
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Originally Posted by TopCat3
I find it's getting worse. Yesterday I had a real near-miss when a big 4WD cut across me as I overtook a stationary beer barrel delivery truck on my way to work. Just pulled out across me, I braked hard, how he didn't take my front end with him I don't know. I don't normally do the horn thing, but I let him have it for the next 10 seconds or so. They do this to little Holden Barinas, Ford Festivas and the like. I have 2 or 3 cut-ups most mornings but this was the most aggressive, two-fingers-to-you-little-lady I've had in a long time. This was on Lower N. Shore Sydney. :scared: Re drink driving, yes it's very common and I don't know the stats (I'm sure someone on here will pull them up for you) but it's a high (if not the highest) cause of road death hence the obsession every holiday with road toll figures by state and the prevalence of the "booze busses" (random breathalyser). Stay safe!
Yep, can relate to that. Had a Toyota Landcrusier Prado sitting on my towbar on the way home last night ( and I was doing the relative speed of the heavy traffic flow). After getting my last car totalled only three weeks ago I find it a bit unnerving if there is a vehicle close to me while i am driving.

PS, we now have a Mitsubishi Magna sedan, so Barinas etc aren't the only ones they push around.

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Old Jun 21st 2005 | 9:46 am
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Originally Posted by honeybob
For all the wrong reasons today, I skipped down my drive, huge grin on my 'vengence is mine' face, not caring about the builders opposite whom probably think i'm a whack job...

driving down joondalup drive, when this car comes speeding up my backside... it's a 70 kph limit... he could easily have overtaken, but no, that would be too easy, what is it with drivers over here?

who ever it was on here who said something like, 'the faster you go, the slower i drive', or something to that effect, cheers, because i stuck to it! he pulled up beside my car and started swearing and giving me the finger.... normally i wouldn't give a shit, but my daughter was crying by this time... still stuck to 70 and he sped past, he must have been doing 100 kph at least.... by this time i felt a bit peed off and a bit shaky...

and then i was so happy, a police car just pulled out of 'collier pass', lights flashing, foot down, straight after the moron... i was whooping for joy, like a complete moron myself, if i'd had a cigar i would have took up smoking...

i never thought that out of all the problems you face as a migrant, driving would become my main gripe, forget the weather, spiders, lack of 'decent' gravy granules at coles (husband's new complaint), my advice is to prepare for the driving out here... I've driven in a few places, london, france, italy, germany, but nothing compares to aussie driving, where does the kindness and consideration go? especially when people can see you have children in the car!

oh, and i've witnessed a few episodes of 'drink driving' here, is this common?

bob
"TailGaters" - don't apply the brakes nor flash the brake lights, just slow down gradually and keep as close as reasonable to the left. If they are particularly stupid, do not be too proud to pull off the road - so long as you can still get away in case they are nutters. You are in the right and they will be called to account one time or another. Keep reporting them to the police for both bad driving and bad language.

Remember you are there to travel safely, not to educate other drivers.
 
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In my experience, I have definitely experienced more drink driving here in Australia than I ever saw in the U.K.
Maybe it's because there are larger suburbs, fewer "pubs" and so more social (or unsocial!) drinking at home/friends house, this seems to give people a more "casual" attitude towards drink driving and less measured amounts of alcohol so people consume more than they realise. Also, when they decide to go home, there's no taxi rank nearby!
I had someone smash into the back of my car recently (I was stationary, at traffic lights!) It was a female driver with a young baby in the back (screaming) and she was slurring drunk (the driver, not the baby!) I also had my little girl in the car with me (also screaming.) It shook me up and made me realise that these people are not just gambling with their own lives, also people drink at all times not just in the evening. This happened at 1.00pm.
Yes, I definately have encountered much more drink driving here.
 
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You have to watch out for Drink Walking as well !

One in three pedestrians killed on NSW roads were drunk, according to NRMA research.

Most of them - nearly 75 per cent - had blood alcohol levels above 0.15, three times the legal driving limit of 0.05, and nearly 90 per cent of alcohol-affected pedestrian fatalities occurred at night, the data found
http://www.walk.com.au/pedestriancou...asp?PageID=495
 
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Originally Posted by honeybob
For all the wrong reasons today, I skipped down my drive, huge grin on my 'vengence is mine' face, not caring about the builders opposite whom probably think i'm a whack job...

driving down joondalup drive, when this car comes speeding up my backside... it's a 70 kph limit... he could easily have overtaken, but no, that would be too easy, what is it with drivers over here?

who ever it was on here who said something like, 'the faster you go, the slower i drive', or something to that effect, cheers, because i stuck to it! he pulled up beside my car and started swearing and giving me the finger.... normally i wouldn't give a shit, but my daughter was crying by this time... still stuck to 70 and he sped past, he must have been doing 100 kph at least.... by this time i felt a bit peed off and a bit shaky...

and then i was so happy, a police car just pulled out of 'collier pass', lights flashing, foot down, straight after the moron... i was whooping for joy, like a complete moron myself, if i'd had a cigar i would have took up smoking...

i never thought that out of all the problems you face as a migrant, driving would become my main gripe, forget the weather, spiders, lack of 'decent' gravy granules at coles (husband's new complaint), my advice is to prepare for the driving out here... I've driven in a few places, london, france, italy, germany, but nothing compares to aussie driving, where does the kindness and consideration go? especially when people can see you have children in the car!

oh, and i've witnessed a few episodes of 'drink driving' here, is this common?

bob
I can totally relate to your 'feeling a little shaky' etc bob. Inspite of holidaying here for 3 weeks at a time the last 3 years or so, and doing the majority of the driving, I never seemed to notice the whole 'speed' thing that they've got going. I noticed the tailgating, which I have to say totally freaks me out.

A couple of the girls from the Brissy girls night out know I have a thing about being a passenger (ie I'm a crap one!) and everyone has to wear their seatbelt etc but it's only cos I had a very bad accident when I was 8 coming back from the Barrier Reef with my parents. No other cars involved, which is why when you add cars driven by twats to the equation I get very nervous.

How do people just not realise, that a meter between each car is not going to be sufficient if the car in front has to break quickly....and that's at 50km let alone 100km. Sometimes I reckon it's not just idiots, it's ignorant idiots, because you could have lanes on either side of you on the highway, and they sit on your ass!????? OVERTAKE ME YOU FOOL!

And I just can't get started on the massive trucks that never ever seem to obey the speed limit. They just constantly thunder past :scared: no matter what the speed is or the weather conditions...and we all know how well the Aussies drive in the rain.
 
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I find it strange that it still against the law to undertake, but when you have a car doing 80km/hr in the 2nd or 3rd lane, what are you supposed to do. I have not seen anyone pulled up for undertaking. They should make it like America where you can overtake in any lane.
 
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Some figures for drink driving offences from newspapers:


13 December 2001
Over the last Labour Day weekend in NSW, 106,396 people were apprehended by the police in a major operation lasting 72 hours. Of these, 105,950 (99.6 per cent) were found to be innocent and were released; just 446 wrong-doers were charged.
http://www.cis.org.au/exechigh/EH2001/EH6601.html


May 15, 2005 - 12:30PM
Police have caught 50 drink drivers and 67 speeding motorists in a blitz on a Melbourne night strip popular with car hoons.

Of more than 7,700 drivers breath-tested during the operation, which ran from Thursday to Saturday night, 50 were found to be drink-driving.
http://www.theage.com.au/news/Nation...095843989.html
 
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I find it strange that it still against the law to undertake, but when you have a car doing 80km/hr in the 2nd or 3rd lane, what are you supposed to do. I have not seen anyone pulled up for undertaking. They should make it like America where you can overtake in any lane.
You can undertake Amanda, they just don't always like to.... or if they do, they like to swerve around just to show how annoyed they are
 
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Originally Posted by mand8002
I find it strange that it still against the law to undertake, but when you have a car doing 80km/hr in the 2nd or 3rd lane, what are you supposed to do. I have not seen anyone pulled up for undertaking. They should make it like America where you can overtake in any lane.
I think that is the problem, the QLD road rules state:
When can I overtake on the left of a vehicle?
A driver may overtake on the left of another vehicle if both vehicles are travelling in lanes.
http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/qt/L...les_keepleft#3
But being from a country where it is illegal to overtake on the left, I still find it very difficult to adapt to it. Most Australians I know just don't worry about it, but I still get annoyed !
 


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