View Poll Results: Should PR be stopped?
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PR should be stopped!
Sep 13th 2010, 10:37 am
#31
da Bonehead
Joined: Jan 2004
Location: Lion in da jungle
Posts: 22,767
Re: PR should be stopped!
G'day Gripmaster.
When one is pissed off, one does not always express oneself in a manner sufficiently eloquent to others.
You can look at that in two ways.
The author can say fook em, or perhaps he may wish he had stated his views in a different way.
I don't mind either way as you are showing a passion in your words but I would have preferred to have seen them in your opening post.
As to the topic you raise, yes, I believe there is something in what you say albeit it works both ways.
I believe the Australian government have actually started to address some of the things you touch on:
1) reduction in required skills lists.
2) local education not automatically leading to PR.
If you can accept true refugees have a place then the one area I feel is open to the largest abuse is family sponsorships and I have seen no evidence it is under review.
Australia needs certain skills and grants PR visas for the import of those skills. However, there is a double-sided coin that I find very strange:
1) The hoop jumping done by so many to obtain a skills visa is oft for nought as they hit a brick wall of local licensing laws upon arrival. No-one would advocate for a person to be let loose immediately but there is one host of streamlining that could be put into place to allow a smooth transition.
2) The person is not compelled to use that skill and can decide to work in a totally different field.
Both cases can lead to a failure in filling the particular skill shortage for which the visa was granted.
Finally I would just add that I feel all rules and regulations are potentially exploitable in all areas of life. Continual vigilance and review is all that can be done in the hope of taking the lead over what are effectively fraudsters.
When one is pissed off, one does not always express oneself in a manner sufficiently eloquent to others.
You can look at that in two ways.
The author can say fook em, or perhaps he may wish he had stated his views in a different way.
I don't mind either way as you are showing a passion in your words but I would have preferred to have seen them in your opening post.
As to the topic you raise, yes, I believe there is something in what you say albeit it works both ways.
I believe the Australian government have actually started to address some of the things you touch on:
1) reduction in required skills lists.
2) local education not automatically leading to PR.
If you can accept true refugees have a place then the one area I feel is open to the largest abuse is family sponsorships and I have seen no evidence it is under review.
Australia needs certain skills and grants PR visas for the import of those skills. However, there is a double-sided coin that I find very strange:
1) The hoop jumping done by so many to obtain a skills visa is oft for nought as they hit a brick wall of local licensing laws upon arrival. No-one would advocate for a person to be let loose immediately but there is one host of streamlining that could be put into place to allow a smooth transition.
2) The person is not compelled to use that skill and can decide to work in a totally different field.
Both cases can lead to a failure in filling the particular skill shortage for which the visa was granted.
Finally I would just add that I feel all rules and regulations are potentially exploitable in all areas of life. Continual vigilance and review is all that can be done in the hope of taking the lead over what are effectively fraudsters.
Sep 13th 2010, 10:46 am
#32
Forum Regular
Thread Starter
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: NSW, Australia
Posts: 191
Re: PR should be stopped!
How about we resurrect the mothers of all the people who contributed in discovering this aboriginal land and kill them? That way the aborigines would not have been deprived of their land.
Sep 13th 2010, 10:49 am
#33
Account Closed
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 786
Re: PR should be stopped!
i am on the side of it being stopped.
they just aint nice,but if your a bit of a falanderor like i once was,and yes i will hold my hands up i was...
they should be banned...
my chinese neighbor was kind enough to tell me what P.r means..and for any simpletons out there,,,,it means..
pubic rice.....
they just aint nice,but if your a bit of a falanderor like i once was,and yes i will hold my hands up i was...
they should be banned...
my chinese neighbor was kind enough to tell me what P.r means..and for any simpletons out there,,,,it means..
pubic rice.....
Sep 13th 2010, 11:01 am
#34
Forum Regular
Thread Starter
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: NSW, Australia
Posts: 191
Re: PR should be stopped!
G'day Gripmaster.
When one is pissed off, one does not always express oneself in a manner sufficiently eloquent to others.
You can look at that in two ways.
The author can say fook em, or perhaps he may wish he had stated his views in a different way.
I don't mind either way as you are showing a passion in your words but I would have preferred to have seen them in your opening post.
As to the topic you raise, yes, I believe there is something in what you say albeit it works both ways.
I believe the Australian government have actually started to address some of the things you touch on:
1) reduction in required skills lists.
2) local education not automatically leading to PR.
If you can accept true refugees have a place then the one area I feel is open to the largest abuse is family sponsorships and I have seen no evidence it is under review.
Australia needs certain skills and grants PR visas for the import of those skills. However, there is a double-sided coin that I find very strange:
1) The hoop jumping done by so many to obtain a skills visa is oft for nought as they hit a brick wall of local licensing laws upon arrival. No-one would advocate for a person to be let loose immediately but there is one host of streamlining that could be put into place to allow a smooth transition.
2) The person is not compelled to use that skill and can decide to work in a totally different field.
Both cases can lead to a failure in filling the particular skill shortage for which the visa was granted.
Finally I would just add that I feel all rules and regulations are potentially exploitable in all areas of life. Continual vigilance and review is all that can be done in the hope of taking the lead over what are effectively fraudsters.
When one is pissed off, one does not always express oneself in a manner sufficiently eloquent to others.
You can look at that in two ways.
The author can say fook em, or perhaps he may wish he had stated his views in a different way.
I don't mind either way as you are showing a passion in your words but I would have preferred to have seen them in your opening post.
As to the topic you raise, yes, I believe there is something in what you say albeit it works both ways.
I believe the Australian government have actually started to address some of the things you touch on:
1) reduction in required skills lists.
2) local education not automatically leading to PR.
If you can accept true refugees have a place then the one area I feel is open to the largest abuse is family sponsorships and I have seen no evidence it is under review.
Australia needs certain skills and grants PR visas for the import of those skills. However, there is a double-sided coin that I find very strange:
1) The hoop jumping done by so many to obtain a skills visa is oft for nought as they hit a brick wall of local licensing laws upon arrival. No-one would advocate for a person to be let loose immediately but there is one host of streamlining that could be put into place to allow a smooth transition.
2) The person is not compelled to use that skill and can decide to work in a totally different field.
Both cases can lead to a failure in filling the particular skill shortage for which the visa was granted.
Finally I would just add that I feel all rules and regulations are potentially exploitable in all areas of life. Continual vigilance and review is all that can be done in the hope of taking the lead over what are effectively fraudsters.
Sep 13th 2010, 11:08 am
#35
Social Grenade Thrower
Joined: Jan 2008
Location: South Coast, NSW
Posts: 3,625
Re: PR should be stopped!
i am on the side of it being stopped.
they just aint nice,but if your a bit of a falanderor like i once was,and yes i will hold my hands up i was...
they should be banned...
my chinese neighbor was kind enough to tell me what P.r means..and for any simpletons out there,,,,it means..
pubic rice.....
they just aint nice,but if your a bit of a falanderor like i once was,and yes i will hold my hands up i was...
they should be banned...
my chinese neighbor was kind enough to tell me what P.r means..and for any simpletons out there,,,,it means..
pubic rice.....
Sep 13th 2010, 11:13 am
#37
Officially Bewildered
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Blue Mountains, NSW
Posts: 5,523
Sep 13th 2010, 11:34 am
#38
Australia's Doorman
Joined: Jan 2005
Location: The Shoalhaven, New South Wales, Australia
Posts: 11,056
Re: PR should be stopped!
Having Australian parentage I couldn't honestly give two shits either way about the whole PR thing, but I just wanted to thank you for using the phrase 'my handle', as I instantly got a feel for the sort of bloke you are. Breaker breaker 10 4 good buddy. 
Sep 13th 2010, 12:04 pm
#40
And YOU'RE paying for it!
Joined: May 2007
Location: kipper tie?
Posts: 2,328
Sep 13th 2010, 12:16 pm
#41
Forum Regular
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Brussels, hopefully Perth soon......
Posts: 135
Re: PR should be stopped!
watch out he has got two smokies on his tail 
Sep 13th 2010, 1:19 pm
#42
Forum Regular
Joined: Jul 2010
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 70
Re: PR should be stopped!
A poll should be usefull or funny this is neither.
Sep 14th 2010, 1:34 am
#44
And YOU'RE paying for it!
Joined: May 2007
Location: kipper tie?
Posts: 2,328
Sep 14th 2010, 2:42 am
#45
Forum Regular
Thread Starter
Joined: Feb 2009
Location: NSW, Australia
Posts: 191