Potential Job Offer
Sep 14th 2010, 12:44 pm
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Potential Job Offer
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Sorry if something similar has been posted before, a consulting company has been in touch with me with regards an opportunity to come over and work in Brisbane for them. They are creating a capability in their organisation to use the product which I have been using for the last 6-7 years, there is no capability in Australia according to them to implement it.
They will sponsor myself, wife and child on a 457 visa and pay for return flights. The job spec that they have put forward is 70-90k AUS$ inc super annuation, holiday & sickness pay. Not sure if this is a decent offer? What do you think?
Thanks
Ste
Sorry if something similar has been posted before, a consulting company has been in touch with me with regards an opportunity to come over and work in Brisbane for them. They are creating a capability in their organisation to use the product which I have been using for the last 6-7 years, there is no capability in Australia according to them to implement it.
They will sponsor myself, wife and child on a 457 visa and pay for return flights. The job spec that they have put forward is 70-90k AUS$ inc super annuation, holiday & sickness pay. Not sure if this is a decent offer? What do you think?
Thanks
Ste
Sep 14th 2010, 12:53 pm
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Re: Potential Job Offer
Are we talking an IT product here?
457 is slightly complicated due to the potential for LAFHA (do a search) but $70k inc super would seem very low for an IT specialist. $90k inc super isn't amazing either however you'd have to weigh up where this opportunity might take you...if it's all successful.
457 is slightly complicated due to the potential for LAFHA (do a search) but $70k inc super would seem very low for an IT specialist. $90k inc super isn't amazing either however you'd have to weigh up where this opportunity might take you...if it's all successful.
Sep 14th 2010, 1:02 pm
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Re: Potential Job Offer
Are we talking an IT product here?
457 is slightly complicated due to the potential for LAFHA (do a search) but $70k inc super would seem very low for an IT specialist. $90k inc super isn't amazing either however you'd have to weigh up where this opportunity might take you...if it's all successful.
457 is slightly complicated due to the potential for LAFHA (do a search) but $70k inc super would seem very low for an IT specialist. $90k inc super isn't amazing either however you'd have to weigh up where this opportunity might take you...if it's all successful.
I have read up on the LAFHA and have not asked them about it yet, due to have another call with the CEO tomorrow regarding this opportunity.
Sep 16th 2010, 10:43 am
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Re: Potential Job Offer
An update, spoke to the CEO of the firm this morning, job offer will be with me in the next day or so 
, any advice on what I should ask?
, any advice on what I should ask?
Sep 16th 2010, 11:45 am
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Sep 16th 2010, 12:33 pm
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Re: Potential Job Offer
There is a lot of good advice on here about how much the oz salary is compared to UK. I work in the same kind of role as a consultant on one specific product. I am waiting on my 457 coming through.
Money wise I would think 90k is on the low side as from what I have heard cost of living is expensive over there. I think it is roughly 40k in UK money factoring in the cost of living etc. Sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. If you think you could live on that in the UK and are happy with it then it's a good offer. Just depends on person/circumstance.
Always try and squeeze a bit more as they want/need you.
Good luck.
Money wise I would think 90k is on the low side as from what I have heard cost of living is expensive over there. I think it is roughly 40k in UK money factoring in the cost of living etc. Sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. If you think you could live on that in the UK and are happy with it then it's a good offer. Just depends on person/circumstance.
Always try and squeeze a bit more as they want/need you.
Good luck.
Sep 16th 2010, 8:25 pm
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Re: Potential Job Offer
There is a lot of good advice on here about how much the oz salary is compared to UK. I work in the same kind of role as a consultant on one specific product. I am waiting on my 457 coming through.
Money wise I would think 90k is on the low side as from what I have heard cost of living is expensive over there. I think it is roughly 40k in UK money factoring in the cost of living etc. Sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. If you think you could live on that in the UK and are happy with it then it's a good offer. Just depends on person/circumstance.
Always try and squeeze a bit more as they want/need you.
Good luck.
Money wise I would think 90k is on the low side as from what I have heard cost of living is expensive over there. I think it is roughly 40k in UK money factoring in the cost of living etc. Sure someone will correct me if I am wrong. If you think you could live on that in the UK and are happy with it then it's a good offer. Just depends on person/circumstance.
Always try and squeeze a bit more as they want/need you.
Good luck.
Sep 16th 2010, 8:34 pm
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Re: Potential Job Offer
Mr Kilt is spot on. We just moved here 4 months ago. Divide oz salary by 2.5/3 for UK salary. Get everything in writing and voice your concerns - ie long move so you want to be sure. If they sort your 457 out they are serious though. Our company does it a lot. Your not working in Uk now so if you were thinking of going to oz anyway seems a good time. You could go 1st and get setup. Family come 2 weeks later. Sounds like a wicked opportunity. And as Kilt said haggle. Never accept 1st offer. Go for 100 ;-)
Sep 16th 2010, 8:53 pm
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I would ask for relocation expenses above the one weeks accommodation but from the sounds of your last post, it would seem they have more of a chop shop approach which doesnt bode well for 457 holders.
We relocated on a 457 but QH paid $6k toward our movin expenses and it wasnt even close, £4k for container, £1k for flights, car etc.
We are now on PR, but you always have that 457 shadow looming so just take care.
In relation to the salary, rental will be about 450-600 a week depending on where and how you want to live, if your in brissy you may get away without a car, but its nice to have one, when we got here we brought a 5 year old forrester XT for 23k, we have just bought a 7 years old audi a4 convertible for 30k so cars are not cheap although you can pick up an old falcon for 5k.
As everyone else has said, the only thing cheaper over here is petrol, the weather and the beaches (I live on the goldy but work in the CBD for the government as a contractor)
If it was me, I would do it, but then I came to oz 14 months ago having never been here before and will never go back.
If you need any advice PM me and I will be glad to help.
Cheers
Sean
We relocated on a 457 but QH paid $6k toward our movin expenses and it wasnt even close, £4k for container, £1k for flights, car etc.
We are now on PR, but you always have that 457 shadow looming so just take care.
In relation to the salary, rental will be about 450-600 a week depending on where and how you want to live, if your in brissy you may get away without a car, but its nice to have one, when we got here we brought a 5 year old forrester XT for 23k, we have just bought a 7 years old audi a4 convertible for 30k so cars are not cheap although you can pick up an old falcon for 5k.
As everyone else has said, the only thing cheaper over here is petrol, the weather and the beaches (I live on the goldy but work in the CBD for the government as a contractor)
If it was me, I would do it, but then I came to oz 14 months ago having never been here before and will never go back.
If you need any advice PM me and I will be glad to help.
Cheers
Sean
Sep 16th 2010, 10:35 pm
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Re: Potential Job Offer
Hi
Sorry if something similar has been posted before, a consulting company has been in touch with me with regards an opportunity to come over and work in Brisbane for them. They are creating a capability in their organisation to use the product which I have been using for the last 6-7 years, there is no capability in Australia according to them to implement it.
They will sponsor myself, wife and child on a 457 visa and pay for return flights. The job spec that they have put forward is 70-90k AUS$ inc super annuation, holiday & sickness pay. Not sure if this is a decent offer? What do you think?
Thanks
Ste
Sorry if something similar has been posted before, a consulting company has been in touch with me with regards an opportunity to come over and work in Brisbane for them. They are creating a capability in their organisation to use the product which I have been using for the last 6-7 years, there is no capability in Australia according to them to implement it.
They will sponsor myself, wife and child on a 457 visa and pay for return flights. The job spec that they have put forward is 70-90k AUS$ inc super annuation, holiday & sickness pay. Not sure if this is a decent offer? What do you think?
Thanks
Ste
What is the title of the job and what is the product? Without supplying the relevant info it's difficult to advise you correctly.
Sep 19th 2010, 7:32 am
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Re: Potential Job Offer
An update, I have received an draft employment contract this morning, the position that has been offered is CRM Consultant.
Below is a brief description
CRM Consultant
Tasks to be performed:
Position Description is outlined below:
Consultant in this role will serve as a functional/technical subject matter expert and is responsible for the implementation of the XXXXX solution modules.
Implementation of the XXXXX solution including: Analysis and Design, Implementation, Testing, and Deployment Analyzing and documenting business requirements, process definition and documentation of solution specifications.
Work closely with client project team to gather and understand their business requirements as they relate to the functional capabilities and limitations of the XXXXX application.
A few questions:
1. They have asked me what my salary expectations for this role would be? The original brief mentioned 70-90K?
2. They have only offered 7 days of accommodation. Do you think this is reasonable as I don't?
3. What other questions should I fire back to them?
Thanks
Ste
Below is a brief description
CRM Consultant
Tasks to be performed:
Position Description is outlined below:
Consultant in this role will serve as a functional/technical subject matter expert and is responsible for the implementation of the XXXXX solution modules.
Implementation of the XXXXX solution including: Analysis and Design, Implementation, Testing, and Deployment Analyzing and documenting business requirements, process definition and documentation of solution specifications.
Work closely with client project team to gather and understand their business requirements as they relate to the functional capabilities and limitations of the XXXXX application.
A few questions:
1. They have asked me what my salary expectations for this role would be? The original brief mentioned 70-90K?
2. They have only offered 7 days of accommodation. Do you think this is reasonable as I don't?
3. What other questions should I fire back to them?
Thanks
Ste
Sep 19th 2010, 7:43 am
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Re: Potential Job Offer
An update, I have received an draft employment contract this morning, the position that has been offered is CRM Consultant.
Below is a brief description
CRM Consultant
Tasks to be performed:
Position Description is outlined below:
Consultant in this role will serve as a functional/technical subject matter expert and is responsible for the implementation of the XXXXX solution modules.
whatever this skill is do search on seek.com.au. are there other compnies after that skill. is it on skills list? if so good - you won't be completely reliant on this 1 company
Implementation of the XXXXX solution including: Analysis and Design, Implementation, Testing, and Deployment Analyzing and documenting business requirements, process definition and documentation of solution specifications.
Work closely with client project team to gather and understand their business requirements as they relate to the functional capabilities and limitations of the XXXXX application.
A few questions:
1. They have asked me what my salary expectations for this role would be? The original brief mentioned 70-90K?
2. They have only offered 7 days of accommodation. Do you think this is reasonable as I don't?
3. What other questions should I fire back to them?
Thanks
Ste
Below is a brief description
CRM Consultant
Tasks to be performed:
Position Description is outlined below:
Consultant in this role will serve as a functional/technical subject matter expert and is responsible for the implementation of the XXXXX solution modules.
whatever this skill is do search on seek.com.au. are there other compnies after that skill. is it on skills list? if so good - you won't be completely reliant on this 1 company
Implementation of the XXXXX solution including: Analysis and Design, Implementation, Testing, and Deployment Analyzing and documenting business requirements, process definition and documentation of solution specifications.
Work closely with client project team to gather and understand their business requirements as they relate to the functional capabilities and limitations of the XXXXX application.
A few questions:
1. They have asked me what my salary expectations for this role would be? The original brief mentioned 70-90K?
2. They have only offered 7 days of accommodation. Do you think this is reasonable as I don't?
3. What other questions should I fire back to them?
Thanks
Ste
Ask for 120. see what they come back with
4 weeks rental
how long probation - stuff you'd ask going for any other job
check seek and skills list to see if this 'skill' in demand elsewhere
Last edited by itxrd; Sep 19th 2010 at 7:48 am.
Sep 19th 2010, 7:44 am
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Re: Potential Job Offer
To be honest I would just work on increasing the salary if I were you. Yes the offer of one week accommodation is not overly generous, but even if you extended this to four weeks it will soon be over. Wherease the salary is something that will impact you for the long term. It seems like a very low salary for a professional person to me.
Sep 19th 2010, 7:48 am
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Cheers for the quick feebdback, i was going to ask for around the 120k mark but was wondering if it would frighten them off?
The original job description mentioned 3 months probation.
The original job description mentioned 3 months probation.