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They have released a statement on their website
Following an article in the Times on 13/2/08:
"Business continues as usual at Pickfords and Allied Pickfords. The company is continuing to serve its customers without interruption, and its agreements with employees and all other business partners remain intact.
Our parent company SIRVA is evaluating options for its U.K. moving business, including a sale. As the company considers its options, it is placing a high priority on ensuring that the company’s customers will continue to be serviced as they always have and employee jobs are preserved.
It is important to understand that SIRVA is still in the process of reviewing its options for the U.K. business and no course of action has been decided upon. If and when the company decides to move forward with a sale, a public announcement will be made."
Following an article in the Times on 13/2/08:
"Business continues as usual at Pickfords and Allied Pickfords. The company is continuing to serve its customers without interruption, and its agreements with employees and all other business partners remain intact.
Our parent company SIRVA is evaluating options for its U.K. moving business, including a sale. As the company considers its options, it is placing a high priority on ensuring that the company’s customers will continue to be serviced as they always have and employee jobs are preserved.
It is important to understand that SIRVA is still in the process of reviewing its options for the U.K. business and no course of action has been decided upon. If and when the company decides to move forward with a sale, a public announcement will be made."
There are quite alot more movers than just those four that are members of the Overseas Moving group of the BAR, including the company I work for
- only members of this group can provide the advance payment guarantee - The Advance Payment Guarantee system means that your overseas move will arrive at your destination, in the event that anything happens to the company moving your belongings across the world.
My advice would be don't panic, but if you're in the process of getting quotes be careful to ensure your mover is part of this group so you are covered for any eventuality.
The BAR website will list your local members of the overseas group.
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My advice would be don't panic, but if you're in the process of getting quotes be careful to ensure your mover is part of this group so you are covered for any eventuality.
The BAR website will list your local members of the overseas group.
Thanks to ianhutch and kirstyp for the above comments - I would like to add that Pickfords is a member of the BAR (British Association of Removals) and that the same applies to anyone currently with a shipment on the go. I would also like to stress not to discount them as a removal company, especially to Australia/NZ as our rates are really competitive here - we use Allied Pickfords in Australia and they are currently completely unaffected by the Pickfords UK cashflow issue.
Please continue to support Pickfords. Please also remember that what you often hear in the media is not actually the full picture. Pickfords being such a recognised brand name will likely be snapped up and continue trading.
This type of thing happens all the time in business - ownership changes and usually the public is none the wiser - banks are owned by other banks, small companies are absorbed into bigger companys...Coca-cola owns your favourite brand of water! I have a feeling one of the other moving companies has leaking some of the dodgier sounding details to the press in the hope that people will panic and cancel and then book with them!
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I am an international move co-ordinator and I will be shipping my OWN effects in about 10 weeks when I too move to Australia - would I really ship my stuff with them if I thought it was going to be a problem??
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Ive been reading through the threads, Ive been in the Removal industry for over 25 yeards, and an Agent for Pickfords,
yes they are in a short term trouble, but so is the majority of the UK removal industry,
other Companys are very happy Pickfords are in the mire ! believe, not all that glitters is gold ! some very large profile companys are in very much the same position !
Just be careful who use ! and dont think because they have a glossy magazine they are going to be any better than one who does not !
yes they are in a short term trouble, but so is the majority of the UK removal industry,
other Companys are very happy Pickfords are in the mire ! believe, not all that glitters is gold ! some very large profile companys are in very much the same position !
Just be careful who use ! and dont think because they have a glossy magazine they are going to be any better than one who does not !
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wow that seems a pretty big statement Billy.
I hope there a no lawyers on this thread.
Good luck to all I know i am comfortable in my choice.
I hope there a no lawyers on this thread.
Good luck to all I know i am comfortable in my choice.
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Hi Beth, no need to be a minefield. We have used Britannia Movers International a couple of times. They have offices all over the UK and tel. no. 08456006661 will connect you to their nearest branch.
They are members of BAR, the leading trade association and your move will be fully protected to ensure delivery, no matter what happens. Their staff were very helpfull, friendly and efficient.
They appointed 'Simon' as our Move Manager and he made the whole process really simple and stress free and gave us regular progress reports. We were recommended by a friend to use them and have no regrets.
Their HQ email is www.britannia-movers.co.uk
Good luck.
They are members of BAR, the leading trade association and your move will be fully protected to ensure delivery, no matter what happens. Their staff were very helpfull, friendly and efficient.
They appointed 'Simon' as our Move Manager and he made the whole process really simple and stress free and gave us regular progress reports. We were recommended by a friend to use them and have no regrets.
Their HQ email is www.britannia-movers.co.uk
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The way I feel about using Pickfords is simple........I wouldn't put my money into a bank which may be in trouble, so I wouldn't use a shipping company which may be in trouble either. Commen sense really.
Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh to any Pickfords employees......it's just my opinion at the moment.
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The way I feel about using Pickfords is simple........I wouldn't put my money into a bank which may be in trouble, so I wouldn't use a shipping company which may be in trouble either. Commen sense really.
Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh to any Pickfords employees......it's just my opinion at the moment.
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The way I feel about using Pickfords is simple........I wouldn't put my money into a bank which may be in trouble, so I wouldn't use a shipping company which may be in trouble either. Commen sense really.
Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh to any Pickfords employees......it's just my opinion at the moment.
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The way I feel about using Pickfords is simple........I wouldn't put my money into a bank which may be in trouble, so I wouldn't use a shipping company which may be in trouble either. Commen sense really.
Sorry if that sounds a bit harsh to any Pickfords employees......it's just my opinion at the moment.
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The UK removals industry as a whole has been seriously affected by the down turn in the housing industry and we are not the only company to be suffering - we are just the first to have it out in the open and as a big name it's big news - smaller companies will be having much worse trouble with cash flow, but you probably wouldn't hear about it.
Everyone has there preference with moving companies and one that has an amazing experience can be followed by someone that has a bad experience.
I just hope that ianhutch doesn't have a bad move with John Mason after changing it
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Hi Beth - no offense taken and I understand your point.
The UK removals industry as a whole has been seriously affected by the down turn in the housing industry and we are not the only company to be suffering - we are just the first to have it out in the open and as a big name it's big news - smaller companies will be having much worse trouble with cash flow, but you probably wouldn't hear about it.
Everyone has there preference with moving companies and one that has an amazing experience can be followed by someone that has a bad experience.
I just hope that ianhutch doesn't have a bad move with John Mason after changing it
as that would be Murphy Laws if it was me.
Good luck to all. Off to look for a new job now
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The UK removals industry as a whole has been seriously affected by the down turn in the housing industry and we are not the only company to be suffering - we are just the first to have it out in the open and as a big name it's big news - smaller companies will be having much worse trouble with cash flow, but you probably wouldn't hear about it.
Everyone has there preference with moving companies and one that has an amazing experience can be followed by someone that has a bad experience.
I just hope that ianhutch doesn't have a bad move with John Mason after changing it
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I do believe that all shipping companies are being affected with the housing industry, just bloody typical that the shippers we were going to use hit the headlines first!!!
Thanks to Theresa for emailing me John Mason's phone number
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Well I hope there are ! like I said I own a very large Removal Company. very well known in our specialist operations.
Now Pickfords have been very honest in putting their hands up to a Global problem, up to recently they were our best payers, on time by BACS,
The Trade Association British Association of Removals, the majority of good Movers are members of the trade association, ( I am ) but believe it counts for nothing if they go bust,
There is a Bond that can protect Customers, but read into the small print, go on look ! Not worth a carrot is it ?
Make your own minds up John Mason is a very Good Company, but I probably know more about them than you !!!!!!!
Who do you think is behind the bad press for Pickfords ?????????
Simple way for your own peace of mind is, pay by Credit Card,
Simple !
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Well I hope there are ! like I said I own a very large Removal Company. very well known in our specialist operations.
Now Pickfords have been very honest in putting their hands up to a Global problem, up to recently they were our best payers, on time by BACS,
The Trade Association British Association of Removals, the majority of good Movers are members of the trade association, ( I am ) but believe it counts for nothing if they go bust,
There is a Bond that can protect Customers, but read into the small print, go on look ! Not worth a carrot is it ?
Make your own minds up John Mason is a very Good Company, but I probably know more about them than you !!!!!!!
Who do you think is behind the bad press for Pickfords ?????????
Simple way for your own peace of mind is, pay by Credit Card,
Simple !
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Now Pickfords have been very honest in putting their hands up to a Global problem, up to recently they were our best payers, on time by BACS,
The Trade Association British Association of Removals, the majority of good Movers are members of the trade association, ( I am ) but believe it counts for nothing if they go bust,
There is a Bond that can protect Customers, but read into the small print, go on look ! Not worth a carrot is it ?
Make your own minds up John Mason is a very Good Company, but I probably know more about them than you !!!!!!!
Who do you think is behind the bad press for Pickfords ?????????
Simple way for your own peace of mind is, pay by Credit Card,
Simple !
Happy Moves
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So thanks for making me feel even bloody worse than I already do!!!!
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Im not out to make you feel bad ! believe me pickfords owe me more money than you ever will believe !
im just a bit miffed by some in this thread who are making Pickfords out to be a bad Company, There are Movers out there who are in as bad or worse ! I know, because Im in the trade !
good Luck with your move, I dont personally believe that the private customer will suffer, trade suppliers like myself will probably get hit, Ive got a few Pickfords jobs en route with my company, do I deliver them ?
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Im not out to make you feel bad ! believe me pickfords owe me more money than you ever will believe !
im just a bit miffed by some in this thread who are making Pickfords out to be a bad Company, There are Movers out there who are in as bad or worse ! I know, because Im in the trade !
good Luck with your move, I dont personally believe that the private customer will suffer, trade suppliers like myself will probably get hit, Ive got a few Pickfords jobs en route with my company, do I deliver them ?
what do you think ?
Billywhiz
im just a bit miffed by some in this thread who are making Pickfords out to be a bad Company, There are Movers out there who are in as bad or worse ! I know, because Im in the trade !
good Luck with your move, I dont personally believe that the private customer will suffer, trade suppliers like myself will probably get hit, Ive got a few Pickfords jobs en route with my company, do I deliver them ?
what do you think ?
Billywhiz
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It's hard to know what to do for the best right now.......hope things work out for you though,
Beth x x
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If I sent my shipment over from the UK to Oz and while at sea the company I used went bust what would happen to my shipment of goods? and what action could/should we take?
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Im not out to make you feel bad ! believe me pickfords owe me more money than you ever will believe !
im just a bit miffed by some in this thread who are making Pickfords out to be a bad Company, There are Movers out there who are in as bad or worse ! I know, because Im in the trade !
good Luck with your move, I dont personally believe that the private customer will suffer, trade suppliers like myself will probably get hit, Ive got a few Pickfords jobs en route with my company, do I deliver them ?
what do you think ?
Billywhiz
im just a bit miffed by some in this thread who are making Pickfords out to be a bad Company, There are Movers out there who are in as bad or worse ! I know, because Im in the trade !
good Luck with your move, I dont personally believe that the private customer will suffer, trade suppliers like myself will probably get hit, Ive got a few Pickfords jobs en route with my company, do I deliver them ?
what do you think ?
Billywhiz
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Thanks for your comments though - from comments I have seen in this forum in the past you can do alot worse than Pickfords - and even though I am leaving to move overseas soon, don't want to see anything bad happen to this company just because people panic.
As you said in another post and something I have mentioned to, the reports in the press most likely came from a competitor with a little info that thought they would win a bit of business from us, this being tough times and an even tougher time of year for moving companies.
Anyhoo - I am sure next week this will have blown over and people will be told what is ACTUALLY happening.
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My daughter is lmports co-ordinator for Allied pickfords here in Adelaide, the overseas Sirva cash problem has no effect on AP here in Adelaide, and is not likely to Ap are doing very well here due to the fact they have the huge Bhp -Biliton contract....................
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