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Hi. We have a dog and five cats. We will probably bring the dog to Australia if our application is successful.

I am counting on it costing the best part of a grand with sorting out pet passport, transportation and kennelling for a month (?) when she reaches Australia.

Regarding the cats, i am assuming the costs will be about the same. Recently an Indonesian colleague was going to pay about £500 just for transporting her cat to Jakarta.

Has anybody out there got any relevant experiences/information please? Ideally a five for one deal for the cats! ;o)

Cheers
Karl

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Hi Karl,

We're taking our ESS to Tasmania from Edinburgh. Using Par Air Services in Colchester and its costing £1449, approx A$700 for quarantine plus vet fees prior to shipping for boosters,microchip and blood tests.

Hope this helps, Peter

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Thanks Peter. Not sure what an ESS is - ??? springer spaniel? Ours is a small collie cross - 17kg/2.5 stone. I presume size/cargo space plays a factor in the cost.

Regards
Karl

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Hi not 100% sure about this perhaps somebody else can confirm i think cats are not aloud to roam in australia they must be kept caged this is what our friend in queensland was saying anyway not sure if you allready knew this ?
but hope it opens up a bit more thought if not
Cheers WW

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With regards to your cats, they are not native to Australia and when allowed to roam freely in certain areas, cause devastation with the wildlife.

I always remember one woman saying when I worked at Currumbin a year and a half ago, 'My cat killed a cockatoo this morning, its nature isnt it?'

I could have slapped her. If we are talking nature, then lets let next doors dog tear her cat apart.

Depending on where you are living, its worth respecting the local wildlife and keeping your cat inside or at least in a cat pen outside.

Alot of the Aussies I met, didnt like cats after finding lorikeets half eaten in their garden.

With regards to shipping, I was quoted £1,000 for my one cat, which gave me a heart attack.

We will bring him though - God knows it will cost.

If you have a search on here, I posted a while ago, details of shipping companies and other websites you might find useful.

If I find it I shall bump the thread for you.

It will be expensive to export your animals, but if you can afford it and are a responsible pet owner, then good luck with everything.

As an ex vet nurse, I love hearing about success stories of pet migration.

Samantha

Par Air Livestock Shipping Services
Tel: 01206 33 03 32
www.parair.co.uk

Animal Airlines
Tel: 0870 833 80 20

Ladyhaye International Pet Travel Agents
Tel: 01342 832 161
www.ladyhaye.co.uk

www.moggies.co.uk

www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine

www.petplanet.co.uk

www.affa.gov.au

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Sorry I should have said, right though she's an English Springer Spaniel.

The size of the dog does matter and you usually have to measure your pet, think its nose to base of tail and ground to head.

Cheers, Peter

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    > i think cats are not aloud to roam in australia they must be kept caged <

Not True!! From time to time Councils make noises about registering cats
etc - but it never happens, probably because of the practical difficulties
involved in enforcing such rules!!!

Cats are a danger to native wild-life however. Feral cats (domestic cats
which have run wild) are a problem in some rural areas. There are no native
predators to control them!!!



<member27608@british_expats.com> wrote in message
news:[email protected] m...
    >> Hi. We have a dog and five cats. We will probably bring the dog to
    >> Australia if our application is successful.
    >> I am counting on it costing the best part of a grand with sorting out
    >> pet passport, transportation and kennelling for a month (?) when she
    >> reaches Australia.
    >> Regarding the cats, i am assuming the costs will be about the same.
    >> Recently an Indonesian colleague was going to pay about £500 just for
    >> transporting her cat to Jakarta.
    >> Has anybody out there got any relevant experiences/information please?
    >> Ideally a five for one deal for the cats! ;o)
    >> Cheers
    >> Karl
    > Hi not 100% sure about this perhaps somebody else can confirm i think
    > cats are not aloud to roam in australia they must be kept caged this is
    > what our friend in queensland was saying anyway not sure if you allready
    > knew this ?
    > but hope it opens up a bit more thought if not
    > Cheers WW
    > --
    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

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Thanks everyone - particularly Samantha for all the links.

My sister-in-laws cat in Perth was not caged, and we did see quite a few others sunbathing. Maybe they were electronically tagged while out on parole ;o)

And i do remember reading a booklet from Dunsborough Shire Council which mentioned registering of cats as well as dogs.

Cheers
Karl

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Different areas and councils have different rules regarding pets. If you know where you will be living, find the councils web site. Most councils will have the pet regulations on their web sites.
Take for instance, many councils in Brisbane and surrounds have regulations on how many domestic animals you can own - Two dogs and two cats. If you want to keep above this number you need to apply for a licence to keep more, whether you'll get a licence or not is another thing.

You are absolutely correct about them not being legally allowed to roam .Most councils around Brisbane also do have a rule that cats must be contained on your own property ( obviously , unlike a dog you can't contain a cat in a garden without a cat run) - but not many people do abide by this rule ( many people don't even know about this rule - but you will find it in your councils regulations if you look) and choose to let their cats roam free. For instance - Pine Rivers shire is one that has this rule ( where I live). My cats are indoor pets, but most of my neighbours they let theirs roam.

Some areas ( which they are trying to get in now for some areas in the Pine shire and the Redlands- two major koala habitats in Brisbane) are going to restrict dogs next to koala habitat , due to the amount of dog attacks /deaths with Koalas. I live in a property which backs onto one of these koala habitats, and often have them on my own property. Dog attacks are one of the big threats to Koalas, besides cars, disease and loss of habitat

check out your council's website regarding any regulations - they all differ.

Good luck:)

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I am pretty sure the law for our area is that cats must be locked up at night. We lock ours out, but there are plenty of people who don't (and these cats stand at the window and intimidate our cats :rolleyes: (whimps). You are given a tag when you register your cat which has to be worn on the collar of the cat, which means if it's picked up, the owner can be identified. My little one catches and kills roaches and not much else which suits me.

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Same here (Monash Council) $26 to register two for the year and tags for their collars supplied. As you say there are loads of cats who are out and about at night, we have one next door who regularly comes and sits on the laundry windowsill at night tormenting my two, usually much hissing and spitting and waving of handbags ensues through the window lol.

Regarding transporting them I used Airpets based just by Heathrow (Think they run an approved quarantine station there as well) cost £1100 all in for two mogs, boarding for a week prior to departure, airkennel, flights, paperwork etc.

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And properly fined! :D

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Two Golden Retrievers UK to Melbourne £5000+ plus (includes injections, blood tests and chipping) and A$1100 30 days quarantine in Melbourne, plus any vets fees that are neccessary in quarantine. Golden Arrow Shippers who seem very efficient and friendly. Dogs are collected this Good Friday and fly out on tuesday next week, the week before we do.
Roger

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is using an agent to migrate your dog necessary i was going to do it my self i'v got all the forms and info has anybody done this. got any advice?

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bump.

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Hi Karl,

We are taking our Bernese 8 month old pup (43kg) with us!! We are definately using ParAir from Colchester and it is costing approx £3000. :scared:

We are not, unfortunately, taking Millie our 9yr old Tabby due to the fact she is a bit of a spider catcher.

Jayne

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We had a two dogs.


We could not bear the thought of leaving them behind ,you know how difficult it is trying to find a suitable home where they wont be mistreated by their new Mummy and Daddy ,a home where they will be well cared for,and we could'nt bear the thought of them pining away night after night.So we had them put to sleep £150.00 job done ! we kept the old leads and collars though for aus.then we bought a couple of new muts when we arrived only £60.00 each total costs £270.00 :beer:

Only kidding! a large dog cost around £3000. inc

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had me going then was just about to call you a **** and a ****** i found a site that just builds you an air kennel and arranges the flight you sort the rest out yourself they give you full instructions on how to go about it. not sure how much they charge yet waiting for a quote http://www.petexports.co.uk/ anyone heard of them

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Very good. You're very brave - how many death threats did you receive from people who missed the last line? ;o)

So - probably up to £1,500 I suppose for our 17kg Heinz 57. She's currently having hydrotherapy for arthritis so maybe she can swim there and save a few bob.

Cheers
Karl

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We looked into doing it ourselves however you have to find an airline to take them, airlines don't like private custom. I suspect that they prefer you to use an exporter as the paperwork is less likely to be incorrect. Good luck we gave up and are using par air.

annn

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cats love australia. lots of sleeping in the sun and they are immune to funnel web spider poison which might come in handy.

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we are just in the process of DIY animal shipping...and from what I can see its not THAT difficult...First ports of call are the vets for advice and the phone number for your DEFRA office. Defra send you a big pack on whta to do...you have to apply to Oz for a import permit(which is a couple of simple forms we have just done them) and an export licience here...but i think thats the last part on the list...I will see if I can find the page I found with step by step instruction on what it involved...And of course it saves alot of money. the boxes you can get from Sky Kennels tel 08000159321 for a brouchure and instruction on how to measure up. 2 of these 1 for a cat and 1 for a medium size dog is costing£205.00 but you can hire them...
If I can find anything else to help you or I remember anything I have forgotten I'll ad it on later....

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nice one thanks for the help . i'v had a couple of quotes in
air pets £1650
ladyhaye £2114

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Have you spoken to any airlines yet? The paperwork is the easy bit.
Good luck.

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Peppi,

I think how you get on with arranging this directly would be of interest to a number of us who would also be looking to do the same thing - it's certainly something I'm planning on looking into abit later on this year. Please let us know how it goes, especially given the posting by Annn about finding it difficult to get airlines to accept.

There was another posting recently from a chap whose girlfriend also organised directly and was had no problems, so I think it can be done.

Rgds,
Nicky

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I will keep you all up to dat with it. I am waiting for the pet boxes at the moment because I went to fone the airlines the other day and realized I neede the weight of the box and pet before ringing...so with no boxes at the mo I couldnt answer that one. But I will let you know how I get on...

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I have considered DIY but my partner won't let me.....

Unfortunately, my idea for DIY export of the dog is bubble-wrap (with a hole in for the nose, I am not cruel :confused:) and then posting him out. I am more than happy to use DHL as then she can track his progress.... :D

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i think half and half sounds ok pet export ltd just sort out the box and flight but iv not recieved a quote from them yet

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Hi

I am just starting doing a DIY job on my 2 cats. Regarding airlines, Singapore will not touch pets, British airways flat rate for 2 cats which includes freight, handling, fuel surcharge, transits fees, avi check, vet sealing fees, customs entry, and security, is £825.00. Qantas was the most helpful if you ring 0208 754 1001 ask for Chris Smith, he will send you an e-mail within 30mins detailing the costs. You have to weigh the cats and the box, then work out each of the above costs, e.g freight is £17.36 per kilo and fuel surcharge is 26pence per kilo, lots of things to add up, but it worked out a lot cheaper. My cats weight: Dudley 8.75 and Dexter 6.75, so total cost £654.80. That included the weight of the carrier which is 1.25.

Hope this helps anyone.

Jane :D

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thanks jane...I shall be book marking this number and will certainly give him a call...one query i had was the vets at the airport for sealing purposes. Im asuming from this that the airlines supply them as such...This has been really helpful...

cheers Peppi

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Oh and how have you got on with booking quarantine..? which to book first the flight or the "hotel"the other end...did you ring the quarantine direct...?

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bumpity bump

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ill give him a ring too thanks

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Hi

Just bumped this one up for someone. I will let you know how I am getting on with my DIY job, when I have done a bit more on it.

Jane :D