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benedict1843 Jan 20th 2013 7:11 am

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Hi all, coming over in two wks to do a reccie, looking at suburbs. Realising now that rent is dear, for what i think we can earn. We are looking to rent about 50 mins or more from Perth, which we are not bothered about. Mandurah looks really nice. Just wondering if anyone can better that. We are hoping to get a three bed home for about $350wk or less. Can anyone recomend a suburb for a young out door family. thanks for your help.:thumbsup:

Bibbs Jan 23rd 2013 11:50 am

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best bet is Realestate.com.au

But $350 a week is not a lot. Anywhere that is either close to transport or close to the beach will be expensive.

JBJ14 Jan 23rd 2013 3:41 pm

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$350 per week will be REALLY hard to find

brits1 Jan 23rd 2013 7:59 pm

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Originally Posted by benedict1843 (Post 10495167)
Hi all, coming over in two wks to do a reccie, looking at suburbs. Realising now that rent is dear, for what i think we can earn. We are looking to rent about 50 mins or more from Perth, which we are not bothered about. Mandurah looks really nice. Just wondering if anyone can better that. We are hoping to get a three bed home for about $350wk or less. Can anyone recomend a suburb for a young out door family. thanks for your help.:thumbsup:

The average rental price in Perth is $450 per week according to statistics, I maybe look for a Unit as well as homes, have a look at reiwa.com.au unfortunately Perth is "up there" nowadays with Sydney and Melbourne for rental prices, also try looking at sone of the older cheaper areas as they usually have 3 x 1 homes, do you have to be in Mandurah? good luck

Bazza Boy Jan 24th 2013 6:31 pm

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Mandurah + subrubs are pretty good value compared with nearer to Perth itself. If you don't need to be within 35 minutes of the CBD I'd recommend that area - or perhaps Yanchep/Two Rocks/Jindowie

northernbird Jan 25th 2013 1:12 am

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Originally Posted by Bazza Boy (Post 10504489)
Mandurah + subrubs are pretty good value compared with nearer to Perth itself. If you don't need to be within 35 minutes of the CBD I'd recommend that area - or perhaps Yanchep/Two Rocks/Jindowie

I'd consider Mandurah over Yanchep (even though I live North). It at least has the train. I have had to go up to Yanchep a few times in recent months and it's the arse end of nowhere with no proper facilities, particularly if you have older kids.

La Vida loca Jan 25th 2013 11:20 am

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If you dont live within 20 mins of perth, then dullsville comes to mind.

verystormy Jan 25th 2013 12:19 pm

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Originally Posted by La Vida loca (Post 10506218)
If you dont live within 20 mins of perth, then dullsville comes to mind.

Oh, yes, because Perth is that hub of excitment. The term Dullsville dont forget was coined by The West Australian newspaper to describe Perth.

verystormy Jan 25th 2013 12:20 pm

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Even in Mandurah, you are going to seriously struggle on $350. There are houses but they are in suburbs where i would not want to live. High crime, out of control parties and things. Realistically you need a budget of $450.

brits1 Jan 26th 2013 2:31 am

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 10505042)
I'd consider Mandurah over Yanchep (even though I live North). It at least has the train. I have had to go up to Yanchep a few times in recent months and it's the arse end of nowhere with no proper facilities, particularly if you have older kids.

lol your right, although I enjoyed visiting Mandurah I would not live there our friends sold up for various (not great)reasons but bought a holiday home on the Canals as they did like that area, we did think about buying down there as well at one point but there was just not enough for the youngsters, I think thats why they have the trouble they do there (which alas is the same in a lot of Countries) Mandurah has "come one" in some ways from when we use to first visit (I miss the oldness of it though) sometimes we caught the train down a few times as well and coming back at night was a bit of a "nail biter" with some of the less desirable (some would say me included lol) passengers, another reason to take a careful look at some of the areas is that Homeswest rehoused a lot of people from the up and coming City areas to Mandurah, nothing against Homeswest but some of their "clients" are not s great.

eddie007 Jan 26th 2013 3:39 am

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Ok... I'll bite, Rockingham....

Perfectly good area, excellent facilities and established community... Millions invested over last few years, new marina on it's way... Plenty for kids, 35 minute train ride into the city and crime no higher than any other place really..

Pockets of rockingham you wouldn't want to live in admittedly... Avoid them and you can do a LOT worse... Especially for the budget you have...

And yes... Peop,e will roll their eyes ... Raise their eyebrows and tut ... But I live in rockingham in the present... Not the past and we are dead happy here.. With our four kids... Aged 12-22 now... But 7-17 when we arrived.

RHS is crap... But if you save on house cost you can probably eel outnprivate fees when they have got to high school age anyway...

benedict1843 Jan 27th 2013 6:46 am

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Thank you all for your replies, If i could put my budget up to $450 $500 where would you lot live?:blink::confused:

eddie007 Jan 27th 2013 11:43 am

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Originally Posted by benedict1843 (Post 10508780)
Thank you all for your replies, If i could put my budget up to $450 $500 where would you lot live?:blink::confused:

I'd still live in Rockingham:sneaky:

h2oskineil Jan 27th 2013 12:42 pm

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Originally Posted by benedict1843 (Post 10508780)
Thank you all for your replies, If i could put my budget up to $450 $500 where would you lot live?:blink::confused:

Have you seen what you can get for your budget?

www.realestate.com
www.reiwa.com
www.domain.com.au

galba Jan 28th 2013 3:02 am

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What about a bit closer to Perth - Baldivis, Success, Yangebup, Palmyra? Depends what sort of 3-bed you're after.

brits1 Jan 28th 2013 4:44 am

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Originally Posted by benedict1843 (Post 10508780)
Thank you all for your replies, If i could put my budget up to $450 $500 where would you lot live?:blink::confused:

We like to be near Sports Venues, Theatres and Various Resturants, Deli's etc so we would live near the City and just trip down to places like Rockingham and Mandurah.

Bibbs Jan 28th 2013 5:38 pm

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Originally Posted by benedict1843 (Post 10508780)
Thank you all for your replies, If i could put my budget up to $450 $500 where would you lot live?:blink::confused:

Honestly?

We looked for ages at that sort of price and found nothing (personally) that we liked.

Then we upped our amount and moved to an apartment in Burswood.

Ment that we had awesome views, no gardening to do, loads of resturants and bars on the doorstep and near a train station to get into the CBD.

We moved half way round to world, and there was no way we were going to carry on and do UK style 45/60min commutes to work.

eddie007 Jan 28th 2013 6:19 pm

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Originally Posted by Bibbs (Post 10511896)
Honestly?

We looked for ages at that sort of price and found nothing (personally) that we liked.

Then we upped our amount and moved to an apartment in Burswood.

Ment that we had awesome views, no gardening to do, loads of resturants and bars on the doorstep and near a train station to get into the CBD.

We moved half way round to world, and there was no way we were going to carry on and do UK style 45/60min commutes to work.

Upped the rent to what???

also OP asked for a Young Outdoor family... I (maybe wrongly?) assumed they had small people ... its not much fun ... apartment living with ankle biters... I did it.. wouldnt do it again anywhere

Bibbs Jan 29th 2013 11:22 am

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They may have kids, but they asked where WE would live.

"If i could put my budget up to $450 $500 where would you lot live?"

And I replied, with what we did when we were originally looking at $450/$500. We upped our budget to around $600 a week, but it was woth it (for us).

It's rare for people to walk to the beach. Most houses are near a basic park. A lot people get in the car to go to either. So I'd recon you live closer to where the work is, and then you'll have more home time to pack the car and do stuff with the family.

brits1 Jan 29th 2013 7:15 pm

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Originally Posted by Bibbs (Post 10513651)
They may have kids, but they asked where WE would live.

"If i could put my budget up to $450 $500 where would you lot live?"

And I replied, with what we did when we were originally looking at $450/$500. We upped our budget to around $600 a week, but it was woth it (for us).

It's rare for people to walk to the beach. Most houses are near a basic park. A lot people get in the car to go to either. So I'd recon you live closer to where the work is, and then you'll have more home time to pack the car and do stuff with the family.

Thats what we did as well,l had more time at home so more time to sightsee. We looked at the first show apartment in East Perth (they were still clearing the derelict buildings back then) its a lovely spot now and they have done really well with the development.

verystormy Jan 29th 2013 10:27 pm

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Originally Posted by Bibbs (Post 10513651)
It's rare for people to walk to the beach. Most houses are near a basic park. A lot people get in the car to go to either. So I'd recon you live closer to where the work is, and then you'll have more home time to pack the car and do stuff with the family.

And that is why I will never understand why a lot of people move to Perth. Living in suburbia and needing to drive to anywhere. Which for most means they never will. For the cost of the visa you can have a fee holidays every year to the beach in Europe.

eddie007 Jan 29th 2013 11:09 pm

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Originally Posted by verystormy (Post 10514393)
And that is why I will never understand why a lot of people move to Perth. Living in suburbia and needing to drive to anywhere. Which for most means they never will. For the cost of the visa you can have a fee holidays every year to the beach in Europe.

Ok... Maybe the exception... Due to house prices being cheaper down our way..... we have a location where we walk to the beach and walk to the city centre....walk to the restaurants/cafes and cinemas.... Walk to schools etc... Walk to scouts... Police cadets... Youth clubs...mother and toddler groups and church....


When we want the bright lights of Perth /international cricket/AFL / The Glory there is the train... And a 35 minute ride....

He works a 10 minute drive away..I used to work a 7 minute ride away....

In the uk we were FURTHER away than any of these "attractions"

northernbird Jan 29th 2013 11:50 pm

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Originally Posted by verystormy (Post 10514393)
And that is why I will never understand why a lot of people move to Perth. Living in suburbia and needing to drive to anywhere. Which for most means they never will. For the cost of the visa you can have a fee holidays every year to the beach in Europe.

I lived in a village in the UK and had to drive everywhere, last bus to nearest town was at 6pm. If you live in a big City public transport is better but country UK it's much worse.

brits1 Jan 30th 2013 3:32 am

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Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 10514464)
Ok... Maybe the exception... Due to house prices being cheaper down our way..... we have a location where we walk to the beach and walk to the city centre....walk to the restaurants/cafes and cinemas.... Walk to schools etc... Walk to scouts... Police cadets... Youth clubs...mother and toddler groups and church....


When we want the bright lights of Perth /international cricket/AFL / The Glory there is the train... And a 35 minute ride....

He works a 10 minute drive away..I used to work a 7 minute ride away....

In the uk we were FURTHER away than any of these "attractions"

Sorry for me Rockingham is just another bland sub with a shopping centre (all be it re modernised) it really is just housing estates that happen to be near a beach. BUT we all have different tastes etc and if your happy where you live then thats all that counts.

brits1 Jan 30th 2013 3:35 am

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 10514549)
I lived in a village in the UK and had to drive everywhere, last bus to nearest town was at 6pm. If you live in a big City public transport is better but country UK it's much worse.

LOL have you ever lived Country W.A? I have done both and in all honesty its the same usually is when you live rural.

northernbird Jan 30th 2013 3:41 am

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Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 10515015)
LOL have you ever lived Country W.A? I have done both and in all honesty its the same usually is when you live rural.

No but that is not what we are comparing. Someone earlier said you have to drive everywhere in Perth and that you don't do the same in the UK. I don't think that is the case. I do drive everywhere but I know people in my suburb who don't drive and manage perfectly well.

brits1 Jan 30th 2013 4:36 am

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Originally Posted by northernbird (Post 10515038)
No but that is not what we are comparing. Someone earlier said you have to drive everywhere in Perth and that you don't do the same in the UK. I don't think that is the case. I do drive everywhere but I know people in my suburb who don't drive and manage perfectly well.

Sorry I thought you mentioned the UK, I did not know a sole who used public transport ...(sorry our eldest son did before he got his drivers license) we last lived in the Subs and the buses were not very frequent etc during the day and in all honestly the thought of walking (which I do everyday)to the stores and carrying back shopping etc in the heat without any shade is a good reason to drive everywhere, honestly everyone we knew had cars, kids even had them (well 17) is a kid to me lol.....drives were full of cars, what first amazed me is that 99% of the Mums I knew use to drive their children to school (I use to walk as I have always lived 5 mins away from schools) but our neighbour use to drive :eek: just seems to be the culture but there is nothing wrong with that, I like to use my car here in the UK if I am going a distance but I use the public transport a lot and also walk a huge amount, same for my friends etc. in fact our two were amazed by how many Mums were walking their children to school when we first arrived home.

northernbird Jan 30th 2013 4:50 am

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Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 10515188)
Sorry I thought you mentioned the UK, I did not know a sole who used public transport ...(sorry our eldest son did before he got his drivers license) we last lived in the Subs and the buses were not very frequent etc during the day and in all honestly the thought of walking (which I do everyday)to the stores and carrying back shopping etc in the heat without any shade is a good reason to drive everywhere, honestly everyone we knew had cars, kids even had them (well 17) is a kid to me lol.....drives were full of cars, what first amazed me is that 99% of the Mums I knew use to drive their children to school (I use to walk as I have always lived 5 mins away from schools) but our neighbour use to drive :eek: just seems to be the culture but there is nothing wrong with that, I like to use my car here in the UK if I am going a distance but I use the public transport a lot and also walk a huge amount, same for my friends etc. in fact our two were amazed by how many Mums were walking their children to school when we first arrived home.

I did mention the UK. I said that when I lived in the UK I also had to drive everywhere because I lived in a village with very little public transport. What I was trying to say that not everywhere in Perth has crap public transport and some people (like me) are happy with it because they came from a village where there wasn't a very good service.

My 15 year old daughter uses public transport all the time to the beach, shopping centres, city etc. Doing a full weeks shop would be hard here without a car but I would imagine the same in the UK. Hardly going to be walking with 15 shopping bags. Our local IGA is a 10 min walk and I just send the kids for milk or bread if I can't be bothered!

Bibbs Jan 30th 2013 2:52 pm

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Originally Posted by verystormy (Post 10514393)
And that is why I will never understand why a lot of people move to Perth. Living in suburbia and needing to drive to anywhere. Which for most means they never will. For the cost of the visa you can have a fee holidays every year to the beach in Europe.

Why did I move from SE UK?

I can do 'outdoors' stuff every day for 9 months of the year (instead of 4 weeks holiday).
I currently earn x4 what i did in the UK.
My commute is 30mins with no traffic (instead of 45/60mins of traffic).
Houses are cheaper/bigger.

brits1 Feb 1st 2013 7:12 pm

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Originally Posted by Bibbs (Post 10516297)
Why did I move from SE UK?

I can do 'outdoors' stuff every day for 9 months of the year (instead of 4 weeks holiday).
I currently earn x4 what i did in the UK.
My commute is 30mins with no traffic (instead of 45/60mins of traffic).
Houses are cheaper/bigger.

I can do outdoors stuff everyday for 12months of the year here and still have fantastic holidays both at home and abroad.
I earned more money in Aus but I had to as cost of living was more expensive.
My commute in both countries always depended on where we lived and worked.
Houses are not cheaper in Aus and as everywhere if you have the budget you can afford bigger.

eddie007 Feb 1st 2013 7:20 pm

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Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 10520437)
I can do outdoors stuff everyday for 12months of the year here and still have fantastic holidays both at home and abroad.
I earned more money in Aus but I had to as cost of living was more expensive.
My commute in both countries always depended on where we lived and worked.
Houses are not cheaper in Aus and as everywhere if you have the budget you can afford bigger.


your subtext appears to be don't bother with Australia?

brits1 Feb 2nd 2013 2:51 am

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Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 10520446)
your subtext appears to be don't bother with Australia?

Oh know, I think if you want to try a different country then go for it (we have and still do) but I really think that if you go somewhere because you think you want a bigger home or your life will be better then I think it can be the wrong way to look at things, you can obtain anything like that with hard work but if you want to TRY a different country for a different experience then it should help with "getting on" better with your new country rather than just being an expat living overseas. We have been fortunate as we have a good lifestlye, we have worked very hard for that no matter where we have lived but I have seen so many peoples dreams crumble because they expected bigger homes, 4 x 4's, better jobs, better pay etc and thought a new country would automatically give it to them and that leads to other problems. There are plenty of success stories as well but too often lately I hear more of these expectations or rather expectations.

eddie007 Feb 2nd 2013 3:41 am

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Originally Posted by brits1 (Post 10520922)
Oh know, I think if you want to try a different country then go for it (we have and still do) but I really think that if you go somewhere because you think you want a bigger home or your life will be better then I think it can be the wrong way to look at things, you can obtain anything like that with hard work but if you want to TRY a different country for a different experience then it should help with "getting on" better with your new country rather than just being an expat living overseas. We have been fortunate as we have a good lifestlye, we have worked very hard for that no matter where we have lived but I have seen so many peoples dreams crumble because they expected bigger homes, 4 x 4's, better jobs, better pay etc and thought a new country would automatically give it to them and that leads to other problems. There are plenty of success stories as well but too often lately I hear more of these expectations or rather expectations.

Ok.. I don't know what you do for a living... But in the uk I worked 2/3 jobs for 60+ hours a week.. played child care tag and my OH worked 6 days a week and for some reason... And it wasn't flash cars or a large house ....we were always playing catch up financially...

Here We both only work one job, we have great weather to enjoy the weekends and all Australia has to offer... And we get by ..and have a much better quality of life...

We didn't come here for a better life, just got lucky I suppose....

It's odd how different individual experiences differ.

La Vida loca Feb 2nd 2013 9:11 am

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Eddie,

I pinch myself everyday even after 9 years...

eddie007 Feb 2nd 2013 11:01 am

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Originally Posted by La Vida loca (Post 10521264)
Eddie,

I pinch myself everyday even after 9 years...

Because Australia is so numbingly boring? Or to make sure you're not dreaming????

:rofl:

La Vida loca Feb 2nd 2013 5:33 pm

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yes mate, to remind myself of how far I have come, education, work, lifestyle and the places I have been to here.

FIFO mate is all I can say..fit in or ***** off.. I laugh at half the pommy numbnuts who come here and bitch and scream, if only they opened their eyes, educated themselves a little on Australia, they wouldn't struggle so much, we all go through the adjustment of moving overseas.

But the mind needs to see what the eyes will allow, open them wider and you shall find what you seek....

some good whinging points poms come out with...

cheese
bread
beans
english style curries
driving
rent
wages
qualifications
weather
flies

you name it, its been whinged about



Originally Posted by eddie007 (Post 10521367)
Because Australia is so numbingly boring? Or to make sure you're not dreaming????

:rofl:



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