Perth Capital Of Cool, Must Visit City
 

Eat your hearts out Sydney and Melbourne. You are yesterdays news. Old hat in other words. Perth has been declared The Capital Of Cool.


A must visit city for 2018. A global destination choice with direct flights starting up between London and Perth later this year.


Perhaps a bit over done with the PR but you get the drift.


What do you think? Perth has certainly improved but IMO costs hold it back. Social life in eating out and the like remain too over priced.


Perth needs to build on vibrancy. Not to hem it in by being too expensive.

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Here we go again :rolleyes:

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+1

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Meaning? At least I attempt to contribute to a forum that has been sadly in decline in recent years. When I first joined back in 2008 there was a constant number of new postings and involvement.


I quoted a genuine article headline by American Chris Dwyer, a travel writer.
If you have no comments but sarcasm you could refrain. Or better still post a comment on your feelings as to the pro's and con's of such a declaration.

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What's with you? Can't get started this morning? See above post for comment that equally applies to you.

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You have to feel for the Perth Tourism marketing exec. It's hard work getting international tourists to turn up, since it's out of the way to the main destinations, but with the direct flights to London with non-stops, well it sounds like it's all good.

However interstate visitors are well down this year and even WA aren't holidaying instate. Put simply, those that know best don't want to holiday there.

Trying to brand Perth as 'cool' is something of a desperate throw (since anyone who's been there knows it isn't). More concentration on actual tourist draws seems indicated - like dealing with the Rotto Ferry costs and horrible service. Bribing a travel journalist to write you a positive story is more than a bit desperate.

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Imagine coming from London, one of the world's premier cities and arriving in Perth. It would be somewhat depressing I'd imagine, unless you like the beach.

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There is certainly a lot of 'talking up' Perth over the past year or so. I note during that time the real estate lobby are constantly attempting to suggest the corner has turned and green shoots are sprouting. They do their industry a disservice of course when little of consequence actually happens.


There has certainly been hope by State Government that tourism would take up some of the slack left by the resource downturn. As mentioned take up hasn't been great, but hopes lay with passengers staying a few days on the London direct flights later in the year.


Perth certainly needs some 'wow' factors as besides beaches little really in the offering.

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Only been to Perth a couple fo times but I must admit I rather liked it. It was hot as Hades, but without the humidity of Brisbane, which is a definite plus from my point of view.
Not bothered about the fact everyone says its boring and too isolated -if what you want is somewhere with faster access to UK/Europe, then the west coast knocks a few hours off, especially if you are willing to do the new one-sector flight.
Maybe it does need more of the 'wow' factor, but then what is that mythical factor? I mean, look at Brisbane, it attracts tourists and there's certainly not much 'wow' here! If anything all the 'wow' stuff is outside of the city -Sunshine Coast, Gold Coast, Barrier Reef etc. A stunning number if people come here and are then shocked to find they need to go several hours north to access the Reef. To my mind that isn't so different from the likes of Margaret River and other destinations outside of Perth. Maybe market the region for tourists, or even the State, not just the city.

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I absolutely don't have to 'refrain' from making whatever comment I choose, within the site rules. Just as others don't have to refrain from making BE the vehicle for their personal hobby horse(s), and endless rehashing of their opinions. Even the personal insults between entrenched 'camps' don't change from one thread to the next, and the next, and the next.....

Re BE 'sadly declining' - it's not. If there are less people posting on the Australia forum, that simply means that there are less people seeking to migrate there. Those that are still post and receive the assistance they're requesting. That's success in my book.

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No you don't but coming on with attitude will only ensure you get the appropriate response back. So where are the site rules with regards to the making of sarcastic comments? The thread was totally kosher and you were welcome to contribute in a sensible form obviously.


Well BE is after all a forum and as such will have all sorts of agendas at play besides just ordinary, at times interesting posts.


Those with own agendas kept be away from BE for a considerable number of years. At least the Australian section. I only dropped by occasionally.


This time around I have lingered longer, and responded to some of the on going nonsense by a couple of posters, who likely if anything put people off.


It's an opinion that fewer are migrating but not especially one I hold as to reasons why numbers on this forum are in decline. Immigration to Australia is running at near record levels. Just the British element of it has fallen.


I trust we can communicate on less robust terms in future.

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Really? Did you try and book something last minute over the Christmas period? Not a holiday park to be had!

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That comes from the state tourism stats.

Something like 10% down IIRC.

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We were down south in early October and they were busy with tourists. Mostly Perth originated and a fair number of Asian tourists in hire cars.


I do detect a decline in the Perth market with European tourists. I'd say less back packers as well. Far fewer down the beach anyway.

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+1 good one polly

To the OP...Be AU is dying, you are correct. Have to admit, i don't miss the constant bickering.

There was a time 20 years ago when Perf was an English wet dream for some.
Hillaries and Rottnest or Freo...take your pick...

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Having lived for several years in Melbourne, I could say the same about Point Cook! I see thats where you live. Just a massive housing estate really :-)

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30 mins to city saving grace.

Point Cook to Coburg or Fitzroy...world's apart.

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Hobart. Recent visit, very cool place. Mona is an outstanding gallery, more of a day trip in itself. World heritage wilderness 50 mins from city. Most improved city recently brisbane. Going doen the pan, melbourne, its my main base in but disappointing of late.

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We've gone a bit more up market now. Perf....more a thing of the past......


More diversity a good thing.....still can't necessary see tourism as an economic salvation.

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I'd still rate Hobart first any day, and I like Melbourne, but Perth does have the advantage over Brisbane of losing the humidity, so I'd rank it third, well above Brisbane.

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Indeed. I'm trying to book something in the SW for next weekend and there is not much available that's for sure

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A post like this from you means it's something you are trying to fit into your BE agenda

Nothing wrong with sarcasm Herman - it's an integral part of the English language, but then sarcasm is something that the German doesn't really get

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I simply cant decide Perth vs Brissy

Brissy pros: eastern state, rugby state, closer to the action
Perth pros: less humidity, less bogon Queenslander mentality?

I've been here long enough to know that all state capitals have bits that transcend the cliches...I know a Cambridge specialist surgeon who loves Brissy...

For me, Brissy might edge it but i would struggle with humidity

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Perth is better than Brisbane. As an eastern city Brisbane is still something of a bastard stepchild, and although Perth is a long way from anywhere, you can always hop on a plane (which you'd need to do for Brisbane anyway).

Not sure Rugby is an advantage.

The best thing Brisbane has going for it is the Gold Coast nearby - which is something of a cheat if you are comparing cities.

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It is a huge advantage for me. I suppose Perth has beaches etc...funny thing is, even Melbourne has great beaches a similar driving distance.

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It means I'm doing my bit in an attempt to keep BE alive. Saying that you appear quick on the uptake to critique in a child like way, but slow to contribute much in the way of threads yourself. A bit of a vulture I'm afraid.


Your on going obsession with Germans suggests you should sort yourself out and go catch yourself a German man to rid yourself of your frustrations.


Are you really attempting to teach me the English language? Good luck with that?

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Perth is probably better off for beaches, and as an added advantage you have a hope of being near one without paying a mountain of cash (just have to be away from the CBD).

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I cannot comment on Brisbane from personal experience, but on hear say it has gone ahead in spades from the 'provincial small town' it was often referred to a few decades back.


I seem to recall Expo 88 gave it a massive boost with the river development. Perth is expecting such a boost with the recent inner city developments taking place, which are considerable.


Our Perth market strengths probably lay with closeness to South East Asia. it is very handy for those from Singapore and Malaysia and Indonesia and perhaps later India to nip over for a week for a taste of western culture ....


I have read write ups in the Malaysian press about Perth written quite favourably.

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That probably depends on what each thinks of the other's posts - nothing wrong with robust!

You must admit, the tone and content of some of yours and Zulu's repartee above does demonstrate the validity of my 'here we go again' comment - sarcastic by no means equals false ;)

I would like to wish you a pleasant day (sincerely), it's freeze you bum off weather here on the Wirral. Went to look at a house by Crosby beach today. As the maximum temperature was 4C that turned out to be an error of judgement.

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Indeed not. I don't mind robust at all. Others appear to take offense at times though.


Well Zulu needs to be corralled at times for his own safe keeping and convoluted thoughts which could who knows lead anywhere.
I'm just a little concerned for his wellbeing at times, but do ,my bit to help the fellow out. Good lad though. Seems to take it upon himself to help me out with my English language deficiency. Normally would cost a substantial amount to correct my mistakes. Darn unselfish all rounder is our Zulu..




One question who of sane mind would wish to be on the Wirral at this time of year? I suppose having Crosby Beach likely to yourselves and the odd dog walker is one mitigating factor.


But think I'll stay with North Fremantle/Port Beach with the odd Cottesloe outing. Try and go most days and it seems to pay off. Although not quite the same invigorating affect I admit.


I recall you have lived in Perth hence know the terrain. It is always here when tire of playing The Scouse......

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Yeah, it's boring as hell, but provides a reasonable and affordable family environment. Where 95% of your life is work, school, kids activities punctuated with the odd holiday. Which is also 95% of Australian suburbia.

Which is entirely fine for daily living, but as I said, coming from a major world city for a visit or holiday will be disappointing.

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Not a huge fan of these sorts of "rankings" or "awards" as I can't recall the last time I even remotely agreed with them. Like Denmark being one of the best places in the world to live in... Heck, I couldn't wait to get back to the airport after just a short stay! ;)

On the upside that was quantified in some way, from wages to life expectation to education, etc., but how do you go about labelling some place as the "capital of cool?" :)

I think it would be hard to be depressed upon leaving London unless you were to disembark somewhere even more rainy and cold, and I certainly wouldn't label London as one of the world's premier cities in this day and age. Cold, wet, awful traffic, overcrowded, worst air quality in Western Europe, mediocre housing standards, etc. Plus some bad crime, now all this crazy acid stuff on the rise. It might look nice when actors fly in for the launch of some new blockbuster film, but these guys bolt out of there as quickly as they fly in once the event is over.

London isn't a lifestyle choice as a premier city of the world would be, it's a place where ants bustle around to make a living (some fortunate to work in a few select industries that pay well, other not so lucky). Those who've made their money and no longer need to work usually head for greener pastures. :)

That is very true. Perth is very popular with people from the region due to the sheer size of the Australian continent and Perth being the sole big city on the West coast. Heck, it's even in the same time zone as Singapore!

Tapping into that potential would be key to bringing Perth into the limelight to the same extent that Sydney and Melbourne have become major international destinations.

I'm just wondering how the non-stop flight from London will work out and whether that will change anything, such as starting a chain reaction by linking more big European cities with Perth perhaps?

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I'll never pass as Scouse, can't get the accent right :lol: Yes, born in Victoria Park and never moved far, until now. Cottesloe beach holds fond memories of my teenage years and of course Freo has a place in most Perthies' hearts.

I love the weather here, whereas the scouse husband, who used to complain about the Perth heat, now gets all misty eyed about the sun. Contrary bugger.

We'll probably return to WA some time in the future but not yet. We've back heeled Crosby, a bit too suburban for us. Going to look at these two flats tomorrow, although the first is more than we wanted to pay and that's without the £4,000 yearly service charge :unsure:

https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/de...GI59EsIUykY.97

https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/de...PROb2ZH5O9Q.97

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Assuming kids and work timetabled, its not so much your backdrop, it's the distractions on offer and people, and access. So an inner city fringe has more things happening in restaurants and cafes, societies, blah blah. Suburbs are suburbs but you might find demographically that some burbs have higher education standards, and more cohesion...etc..

In semi-rural you might find natural beauty etc...and space...we dont use an entire acre but it affords a buffer..and a view..and a connection..apart from bricks and colorbond..

In some ways, suburbs are a halfway house and many are dormitory in nature.

In the UK, the pub can provide a distraction.
London just happens to be big. But of course, it's also a collection of towns and villages too.
Parts of it are even quite sleepy if you squint.

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Nice flats, what happens if you have noisy neighbours though ?

BTW, watch out for that 2nd one. In the picture looking at down the Path to the front gate, looks like Pikies have moved in across the road ;)

Really like that first flat though.

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I think many would agree Perth is first and foremost a family city. That is where its strength largely lays.


I don't think it good value to come as a tourist long haul, unless combining it with other activities. Those I would name would be touring The South and/or a trip to The Kimberly Region and closer to Perth Ningaloo Reef.


Perth as already mentioned great for a short experience for those from nearby neighbouring countries.

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I wouldn't worry perhaps an Aussie accent sounds exotic in those parts? Unless they mistake you for being Manchester of course. A bit like the hanging of the monkey thinking he was a Frenchman, by those ever endearing Hartlepool folk......


North Fremantle very blowy this morning but water warm. Sand a bit of a pain....looks like first easterly of the season.
New caf there does a roaring business. New apartments well under construction across the road as well. I think from memory prices start at around $420,000 ...but I'll double check that. Only a one bedroom of course, and likely sans ocean view.


I haven't checked out Victoria Park for awhile but once went through there most days. A particularly nice Italian restaurant was a favourite at one time.......Looked to buy a house there as well. Quite a few drug issues in the area......but some great streets.


It would have to be a pretty special reason though to prise us out of Leederville. Few areas in Perth compare IMO. Everything on doorstep but still quiet considering density levels and closeness to City.


What did you settle for in the end? I always check out an area at night. Day observations can be so misleading.
The important thing outside of cost, of course, is that you feel safe and secure. Both at home as well as on a street level.


One thing I noticed during a prolonged stay in England, a few years back, was the greater potential for violence than remembered.
Just the speaking of a foreign language was enough to incite an unfriendly reaction.


But saying that adore England. Love the peculiarities of the English mind, the general ease to talk with people (more so than Australia IMO) the sea side, rambles to die for. Still like English pubs, The Norfolk Broads, Cornwall and its gothic type charm ..For the most part enjoyed very much living there. The aggressiveness being the down side, but not totally devoid when I lived there either.....

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Me neither. Personally take them as a bit of light humour without real intent. Cool I would hazard a guess, is purely a media creation.
Quite possibly a bit of palm greasing on the side as well in the form of advertising becoming 'faux news'.


I suspect London incoming passengers would change to domestic flights once arriving in Perth.
The hope being that a sufficient number would be enticed to pass a couple of days in Perth, prior to continuing their East Coast original destination.


It wouldn't take too great a number, I suppose, to pay off.


I still think the future for Perth in tourism, and quite probably most other things will be the neighbourhood. Massive potential with growing Middle Class in Indonesia alone. Plenty of Malay folk from Indonesia and Malaysia already in evidence in Perth/Fremantle.


Another market just across 'our ditch' is of course South Africa. If they drop the ridiculous fare that would be quite a potential market for South Africans of all hues.


A shame Denmark didn't meet with your approval. Perhaps a longer time would have revealed more of the delights that country has to offer.
I suspect to fully 'get it' though one needs to be Danish or there a long time. Beats Sweden though surely? Apart from Swedish language being easier on the English tongue than Danish.

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Funny how us Anglos see Scandy as being full of pretty lithe blonds (etc) yet we learn much later on that its full of suicidal people who can't afford a drink paying too much tax...

In much the same way people used to think Aussies were all lithe surfers...(etc)

And Brits all sound like Hugh Grant when in fact, barely 5pc probably do...as they all sound like Jamie Oliver..(in the SE in any case..)

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Well I cannot talk about the other 'Nordics" but know Denmark rather well and yes we paid a high 'skat' tax, but most didn't begrudge it. We lived better than the English in general. Had a truly good health service a very high payment if became unemployed, but yes as in Australia suicide was an issue. Although Hungry from memory was highest.
Beer was no problem. We drank everywhere. Even at work but never drunk. At nightclubs you pay a lot but top up before entry and smuggle some under heavy coats in winter.
Danes can be a 'bit punchy'', perhaps not a real term, but easy to get into bother in a drinking environment. Not to dissimilar from England in certain respects.
Danes rather like English and they were pretty much assured a 'goodtime' if men.
Blondes... well I've been in many a nightclub where the entire 'conveyor belt' of women was tanned skin, white in dress and blond hair, Reason enough on its own to leave.