parents migrating/???
Jun 28th 2004 | 7:20 pm
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parents migrating/???
hi there would like to know if anyone else has parents trying to migrate to oz!
if so can you please give me some information on the options what are available ie
types of visa,s
if so can you please give me some information on the options what are available ie
types of visa,s
Jun 28th 2004 | 9:31 pm
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Re: parents migrating/???
Look on the DIMIA site for visa options.
The most usual option is Contributory Parent, but you need to look at the requirements carefully. Especially concerning sponsorship, assurance of support, balance of family test and the (high) visa charges.
In *exceptional* cases other visas like (regular) Parent, Aged Dependent Relative or Retirement can lead to a solution - get professional advice before possibly wasting time and energy on these as they are complex.
Jeremy
The most usual option is Contributory Parent, but you need to look at the requirements carefully. Especially concerning sponsorship, assurance of support, balance of family test and the (high) visa charges.
In *exceptional* cases other visas like (regular) Parent, Aged Dependent Relative or Retirement can lead to a solution - get professional advice before possibly wasting time and energy on these as they are complex.
Jeremy
Originally posted by delboy
hi there would like to know if anyone else has parents trying to migrate to oz!
if so can you please give me some information on the options what are available ie
types of visa,s
hi there would like to know if anyone else has parents trying to migrate to oz!
if so can you please give me some information on the options what are available ie
types of visa,s
Jun 29th 2004 | 12:38 am
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PARENT MIGRATION
I am currently applying for a skilled visa and would like my parents to come out and live with us. After looking at all the different visas available I cannot seem to find one that does not require the balance of family means test. If they don't have more than half of their children in Australia then they cannot get a visa. Is there any type of permanent visa they can apply for that does not require this test. They cannot apply for a retirement visa as their pensions are not $50,000 a year and they don't have $800,000 of savings. I don't know of any pension that would give you a return like that!
Jun 29th 2004 | 12:48 am
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Re: PARENT MIGRATION
In order to pass the balance of family test they don't need *more* than half their children in Australia. They need *at least* half their children in Australia.
Big difference.
Parent visas do require balance of family to be met. It's a key criteria and if it's not met, it's unlikely they will qualify for PR. Except in unusual cases where real dependency exists (but that can cause a host of other problems for your PR application).
Jeremy
Big difference.
Parent visas do require balance of family to be met. It's a key criteria and if it's not met, it's unlikely they will qualify for PR. Except in unusual cases where real dependency exists (but that can cause a host of other problems for your PR application).
Jeremy
Originally posted by cybie
I am currently applying for a skilled visa and would like my parents to come out and live with us. After looking at all the different visas available I cannot seem to find one that does not require the balance of family means test. If they don't have more than half of their children in Australia then they cannot get a visa. Is there any type of permanent visa they can apply for that does not require this test. They cannot apply for a retirement visa as their pensions are not $50,000 a year and they don't have $800,000 of savings. I don't know of any pension that would give you a return like that!
I am currently applying for a skilled visa and would like my parents to come out and live with us. After looking at all the different visas available I cannot seem to find one that does not require the balance of family means test. If they don't have more than half of their children in Australia then they cannot get a visa. Is there any type of permanent visa they can apply for that does not require this test. They cannot apply for a retirement visa as their pensions are not $50,000 a year and they don't have $800,000 of savings. I don't know of any pension that would give you a return like that!
Jun 29th 2004 | 1:46 am
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Unfortunately they don't have at least half in australia. There will only be myself my 3 brothers will still be in England. 
Jun 29th 2004 | 1:53 am
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Unkess one of your brothers is also keen to migrate and has a chance of qualifying, it's unlikely your parents have any serious chance of migrating to Australia.
If planning to sponsor one of your brothers and subsequently parents, then it would be wise to get some advice from a good agent so as to do things in as flexible a way as possible, bearing in mind the sponsorship and assurance of support regulations.
Of course, meeting the balance of family test does not guarantee a parent visa - there are the health and character criteria, plus the financial costs for contributory parent.
Migration rules can also change, which can scupper medium/long term migration plans.
Jeremy
If planning to sponsor one of your brothers and subsequently parents, then it would be wise to get some advice from a good agent so as to do things in as flexible a way as possible, bearing in mind the sponsorship and assurance of support regulations.
Of course, meeting the balance of family test does not guarantee a parent visa - there are the health and character criteria, plus the financial costs for contributory parent.
Migration rules can also change, which can scupper medium/long term migration plans.
Jeremy
Originally posted by cybie
Unfortunately they don't have at least half in australia. There will only be myself my 3 brothers will still be in England.
Unfortunately they don't have at least half in australia. There will only be myself my 3 brothers will still be in England.
Jun 29th 2004 | 1:58 am
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What if:
there was a family row years ago and the children or parents didnt speek any more ?
what happens here ?
it does happen and if there is no relationship
between the parents and remaining children
surely this would be taken into consideration
by DIMIA ?
just out of interest you understand
there was a family row years ago and the children or parents didnt speek any more ?
what happens here ?
it does happen and if there is no relationship
between the parents and remaining children
surely this would be taken into consideration
by DIMIA ?
just out of interest you understand
Jun 29th 2004 | 2:28 am
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Breakdown of relationships is not a relevant criteria when assessing the balance of family test.
This works both ways. For example, in a 4 child family, 2 are in the UK and 2 in Australia.
Clearly the parents need to get on with one of the children in Australia (so as to get sponsored and assured), but they could be completely estranged from the other one and the balance of family would still be met.
On the other hand they could be close to their one child in Australia and estranged from all three in the UK - balance of family is still failed.
There are some specific clauses that can exclude a child from balance of family - which don't apply often - but they do not take into account factors like quality of relationship, or cultural norms concerning which child should look after a parent.
It's never a good idea to assume things when considering the Migration Regulations.
Jeremy
This works both ways. For example, in a 4 child family, 2 are in the UK and 2 in Australia.
Clearly the parents need to get on with one of the children in Australia (so as to get sponsored and assured), but they could be completely estranged from the other one and the balance of family would still be met.
On the other hand they could be close to their one child in Australia and estranged from all three in the UK - balance of family is still failed.
There are some specific clauses that can exclude a child from balance of family - which don't apply often - but they do not take into account factors like quality of relationship, or cultural norms concerning which child should look after a parent.
It's never a good idea to assume things when considering the Migration Regulations.
Jeremy
Originally posted by thebarkers
What if:
there was a family row years ago and the children or parents didnt speek any more ?
what happens here ?
it does happen and if there is no relationship
between the parents and remaining children
surely this would be taken into consideration
by DIMIA ?
just out of interest you understand
What if:
there was a family row years ago and the children or parents didnt speek any more ?
what happens here ?
it does happen and if there is no relationship
between the parents and remaining children
surely this would be taken into consideration
by DIMIA ?
just out of interest you understand
Jun 29th 2004 | 3:01 am
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Originally posted by JAJ
Breakdown of relationships is not a relevant criteria when assessing the balance of family test.
This works both ways. For example, in a 4 child family, 2 are in the UK and 2 in Australia.
Clearly the parents need to get on with one of the children in Australia (so as to get sponsored and assured), but they could be completely estranged from the other one and the balance of family would still be met.
On the other hand they could be close to their one child in Australia and estranged from all three in the UK - balance of family is still failed.
There are some specific clauses that can exclude a child from balance of family - which don't apply often - but they do not take into account factors like quality of relationship, or cultural norms concerning which child should look after a parent.
It's never a good idea to assume things when considering the Migration Regulations.
Jeremy
Breakdown of relationships is not a relevant criteria when assessing the balance of family test.
This works both ways. For example, in a 4 child family, 2 are in the UK and 2 in Australia.
Clearly the parents need to get on with one of the children in Australia (so as to get sponsored and assured), but they could be completely estranged from the other one and the balance of family would still be met.
On the other hand they could be close to their one child in Australia and estranged from all three in the UK - balance of family is still failed.
There are some specific clauses that can exclude a child from balance of family - which don't apply often - but they do not take into account factors like quality of relationship, or cultural norms concerning which child should look after a parent.
It's never a good idea to assume things when considering the Migration Regulations.
Jeremy
Wasnt trying to break the rules
was wondering because
mum-oz
uncle01-uk
uncle02-uk
uncle 01 needs looking after more than nan-uk
who wants to move to oz
infact he is the reason she wants to go
i wont bore you with the details of the whats wheres and whys
lets just say he spends quiet a lot of his time
stitching mail bags!!!
but uncle-02 lives about 45 mins away from nan and doesent get to see her much
also nan lived with mum b4 mum went to oz and is realy missing her
sorry for any offence
Jun 29th 2004 | 7:43 pm
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Would it be of any use of 1 child had skilled visa (permanent) and another had a temporary visa i.e. student or work experience?
Jun 29th 2004 | 9:08 pm
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No. Children on temporary visas in Australia do not help with the balance of family test.
Child must be an Australian citizen, PR or eligible NZ citizen - in all cases, living in Australia.
Jeremy
Child must be an Australian citizen, PR or eligible NZ citizen - in all cases, living in Australia.
Jeremy
Originally posted by cybie
Would it be of any use of 1 child had skilled visa (permanent) and another had a temporary visa i.e. student or work experience?
Would it be of any use of 1 child had skilled visa (permanent) and another had a temporary visa i.e. student or work experience?
